Cork 2005: The awakening cermony

FPB .... you obviously have direct dealings with them and have seen it first hand.

But what i am referring to is the normal Joe soap on the street, well their opinion and my own as i have heard and seen it.

Perfect example ... if you have any family who come home once or twice a year .... listen to what they say, the changes that have been made (and i am not on about painting the feicing wall like) ... some lads on here have worked away abit (not in recent times, pre COC days, before they were digging up the streets) ..... The was absolutely no development for long periods of time and not a wrong word could be said about it.

Actually ... as you sy it FPB, i know of one or two other government buildings and institutions that operate in he same way. The back-stabbing, bitter fúcks always seem to push the cream to the side. Horrible atmosphere to work in i'd say !!

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Originally Posted by A face

Actually ... as you sy it FPB, i know of one or two other government buildings and institutions that operate in he same way. The back-stabbing, bitter fúcks always seem to push the cream to the side. Horrible atmosphere to work in i'd say !!

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Well said Aface and FPB...this quote on what you say about certain government buildings in Cork is exactly the way lots of companys are run in this City..jealous back-stabbers hiding behind one another always stopping anyone with some progression in mind..if you show any kind of initiative you feel like you are doing something wrong...this City is infested..but still though there are some decent solid people around also and it is easy to spot the chancers...

To be fair to what Patsh has said does ring true to an extent.


During various jobs and involvements I've had contact with different City Councils. The boys in Cork are certainly no worse and to a large extent better than many I've encountered (especially the non-Irish ones I've had to deal with).

They IMO tend to give the non-red tape solution when ever they can but like all of them they have the same prevailing "work ethic"

just watched the repeat there on RTE. It was magnificent. when ode to joy came on at the end i got a shiver down my spine.

Be proud people. stop moaning this is great for our amazing City

A few points:
As regards the Main Drainage scheme, it's the contractors who dig up, re-surface and dig up the road again. This is NOT a decision of the City Council.
As for no development for a long time, the Council is entirely dependent on rates, central funds and the planning process. If you only have money for the essential services, you can't build anything new. If you have the money and plan to do somerthing, and then EVERY small business in the City tries everything they can to stop the plan, just in case it might inconvenience their sh*tty litle business, it's very difficult to do anything.

A face you have provided no evidence except your opinion and some members of your family who moaned that nothing was being done.
FPB, you have had your difficulties, and I can readily identify with a lot of what you describe. However, I can say exactly the same thing about private companies I have worked for.
The council get the rubbish collected. They were one of the first to promote re-cycling, are still one of the few councils anywhere to have a dedicated building materials recycling centre. This despite ongoing campaigns against any charges. The streets are kept fairly clean and well lighted, even though Corkonians must be the dirtiest shower around.
The parks and green areas of the city are kept in excellent condition.
Houses of an excellent quality and standard have been built for social/affordable schemes under the lead of the city architects. Transport plans of high quality and vision have been produced by the Council. Regeneration schemes, sensitive to the locality and local people are under way/have been completed. There is a plan that looks forward to the city of the next century and what needs to be done to achieve this.
And all this in a city where we have 130,000 + individuals who all know better than everybody else, and know that everybody else is doing it wrong.

There are gobsh*tes, chancers, spoofers, time servers, wasters and downright w*nkers working in and for the Council. However, there are a lot of people who take immense pride in their job and their city working in/on and for the Council too, and though it takes time and effort, they try very hard to do the best they can for the city, and its citizens. That has been my experience, and continues to be. It's so easy to knock things, and view the negative, but I think the positive aspects of Cork City Council far outweigh the downside.

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just watched the repeat there on RTE. It was magnificent. when ode to joy came on at the end i got a shiver down my spine.

Be proud people. stop moaning this is great for our amazing City

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Yeah watched that aswell last night. Brilliant.

John Creedon's 7 Wonders of Cork was on afterwards aswell and that was also excellent.

Creedon has become token Cork guy in Montrose. He hogging the tv screne these days.

Awakening might have been better on tv if the 2 muppets presenting on tv didn't talk opver it so much.

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Originally Posted by Pablo

just watched the repeat there on RTE. It was magnificent. when ode to joy came on at the end i got a shiver down my spine....Be proud people. stop moaning this is great for our amazing City

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Originally Posted by Colm

Yeah watched that aswell last night. Brilliant.....John Creedon's 7 Wonders of Cork was on afterwards aswell and that was also excellent.

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Originally Posted by what biy!

thought the whole thing came off great. kinda diappointed about the fireworks expected more. highlight for me was d projection of faces on d water that was been sprayed up.

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Pass the puke bucket!

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Originally Posted by Superhoops

Pass the puke bucket!

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What do you need a bucket for?
Don't you lot normally just puke on whoever happens to be passing by?

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Originally Posted by patsh

There are gobsh*tes, chancers, spoofers, time servers, wasters and downright w*nkers

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Alright ... thats enough about the board of works !! :p

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Originally Posted by patsh

What do you need a bucket for?
Don't you lot normally just puke on whoever happens to be passing by?

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What's this 'you lot'? Anyone who's not from Cork!

Normally wouldn't use a bucket, but in this case I wouldn't want my puke improving the decor down there!