Shamrock Rovers fans cancel bus services to Derry

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

That's all the time it takes to get organised and from what I've been told it sounds like the kids involved were at least organised enough that they were able to ambush all the buses more or less at once.

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They were all coming out the one gate, one after each other.....

I'm just going by what I've been told, that they were all attacked at once. They were coming out of the gate one by one so obviously the people attacking the bus would have had to picked the right time to strike.

What I'm saying is that the statement wasn't accusing Derry fans of planning the attack. Nobody apart from a few loony ultras think they were and nobody would interpret it that way.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I'm just going by what I've been told, that they were all attacked at once. They were coming out of the gate one by one so obviously the people attacking the bus would have had to picked the right time to strike.

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"Picked the right time to strike". Jesus, give me strength.

So the three people in work today who have no interest in the LOI who asked me about Derry fans fighting Rovers fans were ultras then?

I assume they're people who have no interest in the LOI and just assumed they were Derry fans.

Aye,

And that's what the press release has done.....

I think we've taken this as far as we can go.

Agreed.

We'll adjourne this thread to next season so...

Wait til Nolan gets going about this one! Sensationalism journalism!

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Originally Posted by dfx-

Possibly because they have appear to have specialist dispensation that they can police the ground themselves and that the local police are not to be found in the area. The sort of steward behaviour that marinobohs has mentioned..

If the situation will continue to be ignored either way as has been done, then at least the safety of the bus drivers, the bus companies' property and the safety of the fans can only be guaranteed by not going up.

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The Brandywell area isn't a "no-go" area for the PSNI. The insinuation of the release, however, is that Derry City are at fault for the actions of hoodlums outside the stadium, whatever about the behaviour of the stewards within it. The club can't be held responsible for the lack of police presence outside the ground or some subsequent lack of order.

As for within the stadium itself, it's my understanding that the club does liaise with the PSNI and there are officers in plain clothes observing every game. And that bit about Derry "enjoying a unique and privileged position..."; that's just petty and stupid. It comes across as a juvenile swipe, if not some sort of veiled, but ultimately impotent, threat.

The PSNI could sort it out. Still, there are other options. Maybe Martin McGuinness can defuse this bomb as well?

I don't have a problem with Rovers fans flagging up DCFC's 'unique and privileged position' - thought it was quite decent for them to recall City's treble win.

How many Rovers fans will risk it and travel independently?

I gotta ask though, is it really that much of a privilege to be part of the circus that is LoI?

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Originally Posted by horton

I gotta ask though, is it really that much of a privilege to be part of the circus that is LoI?

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It's like that local Summer holiday prize-draw my ma was telling me she bought tickets for the other day. First prize is a week away in Bundoran. Second prize is two weeks.

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Originally Posted by horton

I gotta ask though, is it really that much of a privilege to be part of the circus that is LoI?

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You obviously haven't heard of the IFA ;)

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I'm just going by what I've been told, that they were all attacked at once. They were coming out of the gate one by one so obviously the people attacking the bus would have had to picked the right time to strike.

What I'm saying is that the statement wasn't accusing Derry fans of planning the attack. Nobody apart from a few loony ultras think they were and nobody would interpret it that way.

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That a dig at the srfc ultras?...

I can see where the Rovers SC's are coming from on this and its a problem that may escalate further in the future if its not nipped in the bud.

but on the other hand,a few gards walking along the road or driving infront of the buses (Especially the team bus,which got done last time) might discourage the vermin from bricking buses

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Originally Posted by LOI_Fanatic

That a dig at the srfc ultras?...

I can see where the Rovers SC's are coming from on this and its a problem that may escalate further in the future if its not nipped in the bud.

but on the other hand,a few gards walking along the road or driving infront of the buses (Especially the team bus,which got done last time) might discourage the vermin from bricking buses

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Its more likely that they would find it more fun to brick both the guards and bus.

The gardaí?! :D

Whatever about the Brandywell being a "no-go" for the PSNI, it's certainly a "no-go" for the gardaí.

Nigel Worthington won't be happy with this. Might even cancel his Derry school tour.

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Originally Posted by LOI_Fanatic

its a problem that may escalate further in the future if its not nipped in the bud.

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In what sense?

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

The Brandywell area isn't a "no-go" area for the PSNI. The insinuation of the release, however, is that Derry City are at fault for the actions of hoodlums outside the stadium, whatever about the behaviour of the stewards within it. The club can't be held responsible for the lack of police presence outside the ground or some subsequent lack of order.

As for within the stadium itself, it's my understanding that the club does liaise with the PSNI and there are officers in plain clothes observing every game. And that bit about Derry "enjoying a unique and privileged position..."; that's just petty and stupid. It comes across as a juvenile swipe, if not some sort of veiled, but ultimately impotent, threat.

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Rovers fans don't have to go very far in this league to see a police officer in uniform, especially away games. Escorts out of towns, dog units at a sleepy Monday evening League Cup match at Belfield. Except the Brandywell, not even in the area.

If you spot a PSNI uniform around the ground on Friday night, can someone get photographic evidence? If it's not a no-go area, it should be no trouble :)