Except the US never had any sympathy from the Arab world before or after 9/11. Sure enough, the rest of the world had sympathy but Bush and co have thrown that away.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
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Except the US never had any sympathy from the Arab world before or after 9/11. Sure enough, the rest of the world had sympathy but Bush and co have thrown that away.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopez
Been ready about German - Russian in WWII & almost some similarilties between what happening in Iraq now.
In WWII Hitler told his troops basaically that the Russian sub human & that they exempt from the normal rules of War for any "crimes" during the campaign. Bush has clearly sent out the message that the US can do whatever it likes post 9/11 as it has been targetted & that might is right.
If nothing else good came out of recent abuse allegations maybe would make Rumsfeld resign.
Obviously the German 'total war' was far worse. A good comparison is with Britain and Ireland. During the seventies the Irish 'joke' was at it's highest, and having lived through that period, it is clear that this was an important tool of propaganda with regard to NI. Many Britons actually thought the Irish were subhuman in intellect and some Irish people when they f*cked up would have to apologise by pointing to their nationality. At school, despite producing some of the best modern writers in English, I never studied one Irish writer or poet. I also remember in 1979 the first international Mastermind took place and an Irishman won it. The Irish Post revealed the result before the programme was aired on the BBC and it caused uproar. I think that seemed to put a dent in the 'master' race's theories on the Paddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
What makes it interesting about Iraq is that while Germany's intentions were a land grab through annihilation, the US and Blair the poodle are here to win 'hearts and minds.' :D Looking at the Val Kilmer in drag look-alike yesterday, I think there are also similarities in that the soldiers in Iraq 'ver only taking ze orders.' :rolleyes:
Does anybody remember Bush and his 'The Great and the Good'
not so great now.
What do they expect from the press when they have been spouting out all the ****e they had.
As for the British forces. A lot of their officers were trained and stationed in the north, where their human rights were always in question. There were beatings shooting murders and internment. No if that isn't a bad omen for them what was. So instead of dismissing the culprits they sent them off to Iraq.
about 9 months ago there was a charge brought against a group of officers from a batalion that had bee stationed from the north. It was thrown out. This is the case being investigated relating to the death of an Iraqi it is alleged.
If you give a thug a gun you give him power, that power makes bullies. Bullies pick on people with whatever tools they see fit.
Look at American culture it is one of be part of the team or else. It's a pack mentality.
Remember the pictures from Nam and agent orange being used. we all knew this was happening.
Isn't it Ironic that it is freedom of the press that has highlighted these problems.
Just on a point of order it wasn't on live TV. The first time it was released was on a website...Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
Agree totatally with your point though