17th Sept - Limerick V Cork City FC

well said streaker..the club was a shambles when kerley walked he always had a shoestring budget and a young squad..at least he was attack minded and got the best out of young players like Jason walshie yellow cleary too name a few...in the past he travelled too away games with a squad of 13 players had too sign himself and had too play jimmy fyffe up front..kerley never had a big budget I can only imagine wat he would do with scully,s at the moment.. I think with pat o sullivans backing and kerley in charge Limerick would be the top team in the division and play attack minded football..3 down and takes off a makeshift full back for another one just says it all with attacking options like Garbhan and bobby and even o Leary in the middle of the park just says it all about the man..he will be on the radio in the morning blaming the players never himself and if Limerick win he says we worked on that all week in training..yet another big night and another disapointment..

so now we want scully out he has us in one of the best positions we have been in for years 6 game to go its far from over

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Originally Posted by bluepowers

so now we want scully out he has us in one of the best positions we have been in for years 6 game to go its far from over

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that maybe true but the point alot of the lads are making is with the money and the great backing from pat o sullivan and with the the squad we have prob the best squad we had in years we should be comfortable in the top 3.
anything scully wanted he got off o' sullivan bottom line come the big games he looks lost and more worrying he looks unable to lift his players.

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Originally Posted by thomas72

that maybe true but the point alot of the lads are making is with the money and the great backing from pat o sullivan and with the the squad we have prob the best squad we had in years we should be comfortable in the top 3.
anything scully wanted he got off o' sullivan bottom line come the big games he looks lost and more worrying he looks unable to lift his players.

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Scully did great things with Kilkenny (dragged them from the bottom of the premier up to the top few in the first division), he also did great work with Shamrock Rovers. So maybe it's not just the managers fault lads. Clubs are always quick to blame a manager but the players have a lot to answer to also. Silly passes and stupid small errors on the field are part of the problem too. Derry and Cork when in tight situations where well able to pass the ball out if it but our lads haven't showed that extra bit of quality on the ball if you ask me. Tierney and Purcell have been our only consistant players all season.

JofSpring, you are dead right when you mention silly passes. But, personally, I think a lot of that is down to the way we set out and the instruction given to the players. I think we should keep scully for another season at least. this year has been a great progression, both on and off the pitch. I just think he should have more faith in the current squad's ability to play football against the top sides of the division though.

Totally gutted after last night.Cant get my head around the fact we've been so poor at home.You can all have a go at Scully but once the players get on the pitch its up to them.Again they looked totally disinterested and we all know that they are good players but they have to take resposability. Cork did their homework and targeted Cahill, who is a good centre half btw, but no where good enough for left back. can anyone recall that when Treacy came on loan to us a few seasons ago was he not a left back? Thats the only flaw i saw in scully's line up last night - Treacy,Cahill,Stanley ,White should have been the back 4 last night. 16 years of div1 comin up.

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Originally Posted by LK37oldskool

Totally gutted after last night.Cant get my head around the fact we've been so poor at home.You can all have a go at Scully but once the players get on the pitch its up to them.Again they looked totally disinterested and we all know that they are good players but they have to take resposability. Cork did their homework and targeted Cahill, who is a good centre half btw, but no where good enough for left back. can anyone recall that when Treacy came on loan to us a few seasons ago was he not a left back? Thats the only flaw i saw in scully's line up last night - Treacy,Cahill,Stanley ,White should have been the back 4 last night. 16 years of div1 comin up.

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Cahill at left back was a huge mistake in fairness Scully has to take responsibility for that. Treacy should have been there alright.

kerley didn't have a choice but too get players from the local league and ul Noel o Connor didn't have that budget eiter and won a league cup and finished higher than it looks like scully will do this season..you wud have too think what would eiter of them had done with the budget scully has at his disposal..Waterford wer bottom wen he took the job the damage was already done..

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Originally Posted by Monster

kerley didn't have a choice but too get players from the local league and ul Noel o Connor didn't have that budget eiter and won a league cup and finished higher than it looks like scully will do this season..you wud have too think what would eiter of them had done with the budget scully has at his disposal..Waterford wer bottom wen he took the job the damage was already done..

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In all honesty monster this season has been the toughest in a long time. Only few games to go and there is still 6 teams in it. Limerick have probably won more matches this season than they have in years. Only problem is all the other teams seem to be coming up with results week in week out also. We have bottled at home and this has been our downfall. All the top teams barr shels at the moment have come away from jackman park with points.


Wouldn't it only be typical of Limerick to go down to Waterford next week and come away with a result. I think if kerely was to come back in we would be going backwards. If he is such a great manager why has no other team gone looking for him. He is probably a good coach like Noel O Connor but not a good manager. Wouldn't mind seeing a Scully and Kerley combination but that probably wouldn't work out. From what i remember According to the Waterford fans Kerley was given a big budget to get them out of the bottom of the league and he signed rubbish players.

Every big game Sully sets out not to lose rather than to go out and win it. He started last night with a 4-5-1 which quickly went out the window when the players were dizzy from running around in circles

lads have anyone got the audio of pat scullys interview with live95 this morning??

good point about the scully kerley partnership if they could work togeter it wud great but couldn't see that happening in a million years ther like chalk and cheese..it has been a tough league but we never had them riches before and that's why you can be harsh on scully compared too past managers..it's terrible that everytime a crowd turns up it's a big let down and the public walk away saying what a load of rubbish..when you look at the performance against fingal as opposed too last nite it's hard too fathom what has gone wrong??

If Scully was to go why would we go backwards to people we have had more then once. It would be time to go and find someone new and get them in.

I don't think Scully will go and i hope he doesn't just look at Monaghan have same manager for 7 years look at em now. Changing manager every year doesn't help anything.

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Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

If Scully was to go why would we go backwards to people we have had more then once. It would be time to go and find someone new and get them in.

I don't think Scully will go and i hope he doesn't just look at Monaghan have same manager for 7 years look at em now. Changing manager every year doesn't help anything.

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I think Monaghan is the perfect example alright. Mick Cooke has done a fantastic job over time with a little bit of patience. I hope they go up this year. They deserve it more than any other team in this division purely for the way they have gone about there business over the years. I'd like to see Scully given one last season. I think he has a contract till next year and i'd like to see Limerick honour that. If he can't deliver then its time to part ways but at least he has put good foundations in for any other managers that might come in in the future. A lot of managers didn't want the Limerick job but at least he has had the balls to give it a go.

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

I think Monaghan is the perfect example alright. Mick Cooke has done a fantastic job over time with a little bit of patience. I hope they go up this year. They deserve it more than any other team in this division purely for the way they have gone about there business over the years. I'd like to see Scully given one last season. I think he has a contract till next year and i'd like to see Limerick honour that. If he can't deliver then its time to part ways but at least he has put good foundations in for any other managers that might come in in the future. A lot of managers didn't want the Limerick job but at least he has had the balls to give it a go.

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Agree with all of that Scully has made huge improvements off the pitch too.

I reckon he deserves full support for next year. Changes need to be made though.

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Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

Agree with all of that Scully has made huge improvements off the pitch too.

I reckon he deserves full support for next year. Changes need to be made though.

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I think Scully will be in a very good position to get rid of the players he does not need or want. Limerick have already started renewing certain players contracts which to me is a clear signal who they want to keep on for next season.

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Originally Posted by Monster

kerley didn't have a choice but too get players from the local league and ul Noel o Connor didn't have that budget eiter and won a league cup and finished higher than it looks like scully will do this season..you wud have too think what would eiter of them had done with the budget scully has at his disposal..Waterford wer bottom wen he took the job the damage was already done..

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just a tad few errors there monster about budgets etc. Noc did a fantastic job winning the league cup on a shoestring budget in 2001 and finished last in the league. When he was given a budget under DD, he messed up and was removed. The budget which PS is running on now is double that of MK. However the wage of PS is considerable less then MK.

Lads all this talk of managers is neither here nor there really , although i agree with a lot of what is being said about negative tactics etc , i think scullys contract should be honored and i do think that they could do it next year on a similiar budget , think Kerley might be have got more money as he is more qualified afaik he has a pro liscence , very few in this country have those , maybe 15 peeople ?

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Originally Posted by Daydreamer

Lads all this talk of managers is neither here nor there really , although i agree with a lot of what is being said about negative tactics etc , i think scullys contract should be honored and i do think that they could do it next year on a similiar budget , think Kerley might be have got more money as he is more qualified afaik he has a pro liscence , very few in this country have those , maybe 15 peeople ?

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I think all this talk of managers is exactly what we need to talk about. If everyone is is talking up the squad for the last three months then is it the players that we signed that are maybe nowhere near as good as they are made out to be or is it the instructions they are being given from the dressing room.

For so called good players none of them have delivered, they are a waste of good money and Pat O Sullivan should have stopped the nonsense wages they are getting. Steven O Flynn came back in a blaze of glory but what hads he done when its really mattered in the last four weeks. Heary is collecting his pension down here, Bobby looks creative but defensively is a nightmare, John Sullivan has been the best of a bad lot, at least he busts a gut every game.

I agree about Paddy and Tierney being our consistent players but i think Jeff Judge is having a very good season, was very good in a shambles of a midfield on friday.


I'm not sure how many will agree with me on our goalkeeper, he has made many many mistakes this season and two shots went under his body for goals on friday, i think Pat hasn't given any other goalkeeper a chance

Great strides have been made off the pitch but what happens on it is what matters and we are not delivereing, i think there are problems in the dressingroom because nobody seems to have the desire or belief we can win promotion, what an opportunity we have but its terrible to see the way we are finishing the campaign that promised so much

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Originally Posted by SeniorBlue

I think all this talk of managers is exactly what we need to talk about. If everyone is is talking up the squad for the last three months then is it the players that we signed that are maybe nowhere near as good as they are made out to be or is it the instructions they are being given from the dressing room.

For so called good players none of them have delivered, they are a waste of good money and Pat O Sullivan should have stopped the nonsense wages they are getting. Steven O Flynn came back in a blaze of glory but what hads he done when its really mattered in the last four weeks. Heary is collecting his pension down here, Bobby looks creative but defensively is a nightmare, John Sullivan has been the best of a bad lot, at least he busts a gut every game.

I agree about Paddy and Tierney being our consistent players but i think Jeff Judge is having a very good season, was very good in a shambles of a midfield on friday.


I'm not sure how many will agree with me on our goalkeeper, he has made many many mistakes this season and two shots went under his body for goals on friday, i think Pat hasn't given any other goalkeeper a chance

Great strides have been made off the pitch but what happens on it is what matters and we are not delivereing, i think there are problems in the dressingroom because nobody seems to have the desire or belief we can win promotion, what an opportunity we have but its terrible to see the way we are finishing the campaign that promised so much

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Great strides have been made off the pitch?where.yere in a worse state now than ever.no promotion,no home,cant go on forever.