Shamrock Rovers fans held after rampage in rivals' pub

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

The article says 20 which is a nice round number but then again the article says a lot of things that can't be established as fact like how they got there for starters.

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Does it really matter how they got there? Are you questioning the ability of Rovers fans to get from Tallaght to phibsboro in five hours? Even in the days before the automobile I'm sure they could have managed that. Read my post above (not mypost). The article is by and large factual. The only difference was there were probably between 30 and 40 of them, not twenty. I'm not saying Rovers could have done anything to stop this but at least you could condemn this behaviour instead of perpetually pretending that all your fans are whiter than white.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

"Football family" is a favourite of the FAI. It basically means "We all are in this together, so don't rock the boat and do exactly what we tell you"

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It's a Delaney favourite alright, but the poster specifically said "One Family", as used by the "LoI community".

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Does it really matter how they got there? Are you questioning the ability of Rovers fans to get from Tallaght to phibsboro in five hours? Even in the days before the automobile I'm sure they could have managed that. Read my post above (not mypost). The article is by and large factual. The only difference was there were probably between 30 and 40 of them, not twenty. I'm not saying Rovers could have done anything to stop this but at least you could condemn this behaviour instead of perpetually pretending that all your fans are whiter than white.

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No I'm questioning the journalist presenting something as fact in the article by sayng "they travelled by bus" when there is no possible way the journalist could be sure of this. With that being the case it opens the entire article up to being questioned as to what is and isn't the truth in it. No other paper had this, no mention of the incident on the internet all week. That's not to say it didn't happen but I'm not going to apologise for not believing everything I read in a paper.

Maybe next time you reply to one of my posts you could quote everything I said instead of selectively quoting part of it and going to town on it. If you read either of my posts on this thread (which you obviously have) you would see the following

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Fuc*ing eejits. I'd expect the club to ban them if/when they are convicted

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these gobsh1tes

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Is that me pretending they are whiter than white?

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

Strange article, surprised the first mention of the incident was in a Sunday newspaper a full week after the event. I would have expected if "rovers scum" had smashed up a pub full of bohs fans it would have been on gypoweb that night or the next morning but not a word about it. How does the reporter know they travelled by bus? How does the reporter know they were Rovers fans? No quotes in the article at all. It's a story that wouldn't have got past the editor unless the words Shamrock Rovers were attached.

It seems all 8 were teenagers 5 of which were underage in the pub. This sounds like a few bebo schooligans arranged "a meet" with their counterparts in phibsboro. I bet if you had a look at their bebo/facebook pages you'd see them threatening each other all week prior to the game. Fuc*ing eejits. I'd expect the club to ban them if/when they are convicted but theres shag all we can do to stop public order offences happening on the other side of the city 5 hours after a match.

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we're all a hoop tonight, eh?

Kudos to the second one from the left.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Why can no one ever accept responsibilty? the old phrase get your own house in order etc springs to mind.

There has to be less blame culture and more responsibility and acceptance.

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We've no responsibility to accept for this incident.

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Originally Posted by ShedendinvisiblE

The mere fact, however, that such a large group went to such effort to pull off this stunt in the afternoon not long after a derby match in Tallaght sure tells you a lot but if you wish to consider 30, yes, 30 people going across town to thrash a pub a non incident then shame on you.

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Nobody says the incident didn't happen, but I don't believe that 20, now 30 people specifically associated with Shamrock Rovers, boarded a "non-existent" bus to target a pub in Dublin 7 on a specific night. The story has a whiff of "SARI-gate" about it to me.

A non-existent bus?

You don't think it's possible to get a bus from Tallaght to Phibsboro at all? Even, say, the 77a to town and walk the 15 minutes to Phibsboro?

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Originally Posted by hoopy

Find this post interesting, considering your post on your own forum.

http://www.thebohs.com/forum/viewtop...=280694#280694

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Not sure your point here. if these "hard men" wanted "a row" i would have thought the LUAS full of Bohs fans offered the oppurtunity ??????? Why the hell take the bus to an empty pub 15 miles away ?

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

It's the Turbine, what do you expect? Though the fact they are redesigning the paper AGAIN suggests it may be on its last legs, so we won;t have to put up with it from them for much longer

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That would be absolutely, absolutely excellent. It's a loathsome rag.

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Originally Posted by mypost

The story has a whiff of "SARI-gate" about it to me.

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What, you think someone doctored the CCTV footage?

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Originally Posted by SkStu

from their trip to Israel

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we're all a hoop tonight, eh?

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Such an embaressment.
What shams flag is that in the background?

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Such an embaressment.

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Yeah it is embarrassing, that someone interpreted that as a political symbol, and even more embarrassing that someone agreed with them.

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You don't think it's possible to get a bus from Tallaght to Phibsboro at all? Even, say, the 77a to town and walk the 15 minutes to Phibsboro?

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Do you think that it's realistic? It isn't physically possible to get a direct public bus between the two grounds, and nobody is going to walk part of the route either.

Are you for real?! If nothing else, you can get the 10 from town to Dalyer. And saying that none of this happened because people won't walk half a mile is bordering on the single most insane thing you have ever come out with. And that's saying something.

I won't be at Tallaght tomorrow I'm afraid. It isn't physically possible to get a direct public bus from where I work to the ground. It'd mean getting the DART into town and the LUAS out to Tallaght. I don't think that's realistic, so I won't be there.

I heard they got a taxi anyway - so all the talk of buses may be moot

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Are you for real?

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Yes.

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If nothing else, you can get the 10 from town to Dalyer.

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But not from Tallaght, as is the point of the piece.

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And saying that none of this happened

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It did happen. But were our fans involved, that's the issue. 3 weeks later, and there's no soundproof evidence our fans were involved in that incident.

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....bordering on the single most insane thing you.....

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Insane accusation No. 171....

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Originally Posted by mypost

Yeah it is embarrassing, that someone interpreted that as a political symbol, and even more embarrassing that someone agreed with them..

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can you explain this please?

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Originally Posted by mypost

Yeah it is embarrassing, that someone interpreted that as a political symbol, and even more embarrassing that someone agreed with them.



Do you think that it's realistic? It isn't physically possible to get a direct public bus between the two grounds, and nobody is going to walk part of the route either.

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Who said they got a direct bus??