Verdict on LOI Clubs Performances in Europe 2010

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Originally Posted by paudie

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2011.html

Currently down to 31st according to bert. Have to keep an eye on the Hungarians.

Not sure if our champions will be seeded in the first round of the CL next year.

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Depends who the champions are.

The seeding points for the likely euro qualifiers (cup upset aside) for next year are;
Pats - 4.241
Bohs - 3.741
Rovers - 2.741
Fingal - 2.241
Sligo - 1.991

Anyone else will be 1.741

EDIT; the bottom 3 champions league seeded teams this were Bohs - 2.908, Ekranes (Lit) - 2.683 and Aktobe (Kaz) - 2.399

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Originally Posted by Supreme feet

The sickening thing about the Bohs result was that 2010 would have been perceived as a very good year for the LOI in Europe, had an in-form Bohs beaten TNS and competed against Anderlecht. Another big tie to go along with Rovers, then another big game, win or lose. However, the high of Rovers winning in Israel has to be balanced against the Bohs result, and unfortunately it's the latter that people remember most. The other clubs got tough draws, in fairness. Sporting Fingal gave a good account of themselves, no shame there. Overall, we've had better years in Europe (2004, 2006 and 2008), and will have better years in the future.

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Yeah that's about right

Bohs: at least they won a game!!!!! But a real disappointment in Wales

Sham Rovers: Didnt expect them to get through against the Israeli team, so they did as well as I expected and put up a good effort against a decent Juventus team that will probably go very far in the Europa Cup

S.Fingal: Unlucky not to get a result, played well

Dundalk: Got through a round, and knocked out by a tough Bulgarian team. Expected

everyone did ok, except for bohs who ruined everything for everyone and probably murdered some kittens

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Originally Posted by Acornvilla

everyone did ok, except for bohs who ruined everything for everyone and probably murdered some kittens

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We've all seen Paul Keegan play! ;)

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Beating a better team than you > beating a team worse than you.

Fairly straightforward really.

Not getting thumped 8-0 by a fairly average side in the greater scheme of things helps Rovers' cause too.

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Now pineapple, I think Levski are a little better than 'fairly average' they won their next in following round 5-2 (6-3), plus I think they will beat AIK Stockholm to qualify.

Also how does a previous poster rate Fingal as 'solid' for losing both games, and granted Juve are a lot better than Levski and same for Israelis v Lux, but Rovers till got the same outcomes as us, won 1, lost 2 & didnt score in the next round.

Overall it was a poor enough I would say by the Irish clubs.

In the greater scheme of things, they're average. I can't see them getting out of any groups they qualify for, for example. In the last couple of years, they've been in group stages, but won 1 and lost the other 11.

And you simply can't compare the results with no context like you just did. Dundalk started a round earlier and so got easier opposition than Rovers for starters. If a LoI team beat an Andorra side 1-0 on aggregate and then lost 10-0 to, say, a Moldovan side, would that be just as good as Rovers' or Dundalk's performances this year? Of course not, but it'd still be won one, drew one, lost two.

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Originally Posted by Acornvilla

everyone did ok, except for bohs who ruined everything for everyone and probably murdered some kittens

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Bohs were a disgrace. the welsh astro 11 are terrible.