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No. The point that I was trying to make is that equating the death of mercenaries in a war zone with nurses and engineers in Saudia Arabia isn't particularly valid. Where did I say that I thought anyone "deserved to die"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
No, you were implying that I was implying that they deserved to die...Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
So there can be no confusion, I do not feel "that they deserved to die?" nor "that they 'kind of' deserved to die?" I don't actually think that anyone deserves to die. I do, however, have less sympathy for twenty-first century mercenaries dying in their chosen profession than for plumbers and gas-fitters.
Sure, there's no whiff of an implication in that.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
I read a few articles on this at the weekend and it appears that many of the "Security Contractors" didn't have appropriate training or weapons to deal with the situation they were in. The offer of GBP£100,000 PA was too much for some out-of-work ex-soldiers to refuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Smith
This being the case it's understandable that some of us have less sympathy for them. In West Cork, certain people are considered hero's for their part in the termination of "Black & Tans."
Is this too dissimilar?
I don't think anyone would disagree with that.....apart from Eanna (see previous page).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Smith
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: He's said exactly the same thing as me. The "yes and yes" I posted was referring to the first part of pete's post. I meant to edit the quote. It should have (and now does) read:Quote:
Originally Posted by liamon
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yes and yes. you can't waltz into someone else's country all guns blazing and expect a hug and a pint to welcome you.Quote:
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Originally Posted by pete
Would you say the same thing if were irish guys working for an American contractor as i'd guess good chance some irish lads over there.
sorry bout that. i didn't really look at it when i was posting it- can't believe the way it came out. :o
No, but I don't recall any illegal US intervention there, during my lifetime or before.Quote:
Originally Posted by davros
Do you ever actually read what anyone else says, ye dum-dum?
What about Noraid? It's a legally registered charity in the USA. If people want to send money back to the oul' sod, so what? Or are you suggesting that's equivalent to bombing civilians in Faluja?
No they haven't. Stop talking nonsense or you'll not be allowed on the trip to the Wisla!
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Originally Posted by Peadar
I think yes .... the Black and Tans for the most part we convicts and paid their way out of jail and onto the ships to come here. It was circumstance, there was a limited (no) choice. Those in Iraq right now do (to be honest) have a choice and can exercise it.
Thats my understanding of it anyway !!
I thought we were talking about "Security Contractors"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor74
Did anyone see "Taking Bagdad" on Discovery last night?
Hard hitting stuff.
Davros. "Illegal US intervention" implies action by the US government. You can hardly compare this with Noraid- if you did, every time a Yank tourist got a speeding ticket, it would qualify as illegal intervention.
A Face. Most of the Tans and Auxis were soldiers demobbed from the British Army at the end of WW1. I doubt more than a small proportion of them,certainly well below 50%, were ex-cons.
Conor. Obeying orders from your officers and observing the Geneva Conventions aren't co-terminous. In practice the Tan atrocities were approved by the British Army.
Yawn. Noraid isn't part of the US government. That government has never given it official sanction. It's a private organisation sometimes active in Ireland. Therefore any illegal actions by it or its members are comparable to an illegal action by a private US citizen. If you bothered to read other posts rather than ranting incoherently this would be self-evident, you fat bald numbskull :D
PS you're not even really Irish, so what are ye doing on this board anyway?