"Budget Could Make It Impossible To Run Team"

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28/01/2009, 3:26 PM
Rovers Maniac

Well said LR, i don't think anybody want to put the club at jeopardy lads but you have to be able to run it. As Brian pompously suggested i must have enjoyed putting my hands in my pocket last year, i can tell you i certainly did not i had to make sacrifices to do so. I know the last thing the MC want is to have to go around asking the public of Sligo to save the club. But we were told that the money we were paying out was affordable at the end of the season and by all accounts the figures back this up. So why cut again? We have illustrated that we can run our football club on the last years end of season budget.
28/01/2009, 3:30 PM
Mr A

Because the economy is fecked and people and businesses have less disposable income than previously?
28/01/2009, 3:36 PM
Bald Student

Look at this bridge, it hasn't collapsed in the last three months and is therefore safe.

http://www.roverpowered.com/booyaah/ropics/PICT1239.JPG
28/01/2009, 3:38 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by Bald Student

Look at this bridge, it hasn't collapsed in the last three months and is therefore safe.

http://www.roverpowered.com/booyaah/ropics/PICT1239.JPG

Not only that, the fact that it can take that girl's weight surely means it can support the much-heavier jeep.
28/01/2009, 3:43 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Watch the crowds flock !

So if we signed Joey Ndo and Glen Fitzpatrick (again, just an example of 2 out-of-contract players) on decent wages each, do you think this would significantly boost our crowds by a few hundred every two weeks? Most people would very much doubt it.
28/01/2009, 3:49 PM
Bald Student

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Not only that, the fact that it can take that girl's weight surely means it can support the much-heavier jeep.

Stress testing, LoI style!
28/01/2009, 3:51 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Not only that, the fact that it can take that girl's weight surely means it can support the much-heavier jeep.

Sure an extra two tonnes is minute.
28/01/2009, 3:52 PM
gustavo

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Originally Posted by brianw82

So if we signed Joey Ndo and Glen Fitzpatrick (again, just an example of 2 out-of-contract players) on decent wages each, do you think this would significantly boost our crowds by a few hundred every two weeks? Most people would very much doubt it.

They'd improve the team , therfore improving our league standing which in turn always boosts our attendances
28/01/2009, 3:54 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by gustavo

They'd improve the team , therfore improving our league standing which in turn always boosts our attendances

You think they'd improve the team? jeeezzzz...
28/01/2009, 3:57 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by brianw82

So if we signed Joey Ndo and Glen Fitzpatrick (again, just an example of 2 out-of-contract players) on decent wages each, do you think this would significantly boost our crowds by a few hundred every two weeks? Most people would very much doubt it.

No, but it would mean is that we are more likely to do better, and thus make more money. This addittional would then pay additional players wages. Therefore at the end of the season you become what is called 'cost neutral'.
28/01/2009, 3:59 PM
Rovers Maniac

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Originally Posted by brianw82

So if we signed Joey Ndo and Glen Fitzpatrick (again, just an example of 2 out-of-contract players) on decent wages each, do you think this would significantly boost our crowds by a few hundred every two weeks? Most people would very much doubt it.

Brian you don't speak for every Sligo Rovers fan this is the second time on this thread you have done that ! Who mentioned Ndo signing would bring in major crowds, although he is quality and yes i am sure Ndo would put 'some bums on seats' where ever he goes.

Its as Cook says if you want good players you needs to pay the players, i don't think anybody is trying to put the club into difficulties. I gather you would happy seeing Rovers playing in the Sligo/Leitrim Super league every sunday morning, i am afraid that does not appeal to me in the slightest.
28/01/2009, 4:08 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

i don't think anybody is trying to put the club into difficulties.

Nobody thinks that. But the club has been in serious financial difficulties very recently anyway. The FAI want to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

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Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

We have illustrated that we can run our football club on the last years end of season budget.

And you've also illustrated that you couldn't run it before then.
28/01/2009, 4:17 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by redobit

No, but it would mean is that we are more likely to do better, and thus make more money. This addittional would then pay additional players wages. Therefore at the end of the season you become what is called 'cost neutral'.

People are living in laa-laa land if they honestly think that. Better/full-time players did not pull massive crowds in '07 or '08 - why would they do so in '09?

BTW, I do not want SRFC playing in the Sligo Leitrim District League. Being concerned about the club does not make me a harbinger of doom.

As osarusan said, the fact that the club run fairly well in the last third of the season shouldn't negate the fact that we were spending beyond our means in the first 2 thirds.
28/01/2009, 4:29 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by brianw82

People are living in laa-laa land if they honestly think that. Better/full-time players did not pull massive crowds in '07 or '08 - why would they do so in '09?

BTW, I do not want SRFC playing in the Sligo Leitrim District League. Being concerned about the club does not make me a harbinger of doom.

As osarusan said, the fact that the club run fairly well in the last third of the season shouldn't negate the fact that we were spending beyond our means in the first 2 thirds.

Read the post back, i never said the crowds would become bigger by signing full time players.
What im saying is a better squad is more likely to yield:
- a higher league position
- longer cup runs
- advance to 2nd qualifing round in europe

The above means you make more money and thus the extra players wages get paid. And I will say it agian, the '�2 thing' could easily pay for these players salaries, and this is the positives we need to pushing.
28/01/2009, 4:34 PM
Rovers1

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Originally Posted by brianw82

So if we signed Joey Ndo and Glen Fitzpatrick

cant believe you've put Ndo and that donkey Fitzpatrick in the same sentence.:eek: Shocking footballer!
28/01/2009, 4:41 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by Rovers1

cant believe you've put Ndo and that donkey Fitzpatrick in the same sentence.:eek: Shocking footballer!

If one could hang coats like people on foot.ie hang on other people's every word, you'd have one mighty big cloakroom.
28/01/2009, 4:46 PM
Rovers1

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Originally Posted by brianw82

If one could hang coats like people on foot.ie hang on other people's every word, you'd have one mighty big cloakroom.

like the one in Toffs:confused:

.....one wonders
28/01/2009, 5:04 PM
dublinred

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Originally Posted by redobit

Read the post back, i never said the crowds would become bigger by signing full time players.
What im saying is a better squad is more likely to yield:
- a higher league position
- longer cup runs
- advance to 2nd qualifing round in europe

The above means you make more money and thus the extra players wages get paid. And I will say it agian, the '�2 thing' could easily pay for these players salaries, and this is the positives we need to pushing.

We might need to up the �2 thing to �3 euros to cover �2 worth of wages with the 65% rule.
28/01/2009, 5:10 PM
neutrino

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Originally Posted by londonred

We own our ground and have no mortgage or rent to pay on it , most of our officers and stewards are voluntary so therefore its likely we will end up with a cash surplus from the 35% of income that has to be set aside.
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there wont be a surplus from the 35% of income remaining. the point of the salary cap is to limit actual player wage to be 65% - with the rest of the money being use to pay other bills. Budgets before have been set without taking into consideration other expenses. sure even PRSI & Tax costs wouldnt have been in previous budgets.

Keeping costs proportional to expenses is common sense. If our budget seems tiny compared to last year then that shows how far off the budget was last year.
28/01/2009, 5:13 PM
neutrino

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You think they'd improve the team? jeeezzzz...

I think a couple of local players be they up and coming or the likes of Cawley or Martyn (for example) coming to play would do way more for attendances than Ndo or Fitzpatrick. I like Ndo as a player (get him on pay-per-play) but Fitzpatrick is very inconsistent.

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