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16/01/2009, 11:53 AM
Not Brazil

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

According to the Derry City Chairman you didn't get 3000 at a game. So I'll take the average figure on this site with a major pinch of salt.

Our league is still going, we'll compare ourselves with other official attendances. (although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL)

According to Derry City Chairman, Pat McDaid, in an article in the Derry Journal in November 2008:

"Our average attendance figure for the year was roughly 2,000 supporters. People talked about crowds of 3,500 and 4,000 fans attending Brandywell Stadium, that did not happen once last season," he insisted.

http://www.derryjournal.com/derry-sp...-up.4743072.jp
16/01/2009, 12:07 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

although I'm sceptical about some 'Official' attendances in the IL

Glenavon seem to only ever get 650 or 700 at a game. And I see the Big Two game was down as "About 9500", whereas Linfield could submit official figures for all their other games. Not sure what to make of that.
16/01/2009, 12:23 PM
Graemerz

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Originally Posted by citybone

BIGGEST CLUB ON THE ISLAND!!!

Hardly, you may have the most support and there are factors for this but the Cork City name is nothing, Cork are nowhere.
16/01/2009, 6:29 PM
AnnaghRed

Figures so far

Linfield 2378 highest 9500 v glentoran
Glentoran 1475..........1757 v cliftonville
Ballymena 951........... 2520 v coleraine
Coleraine 824............1526 v linfield
Crusaders 812...........2660 v linfield
Cliftonville 798........2041 v linfield
Glenavon 740............1450 v glentoran
Institute 539............1200 v linfield
Distillery 464............917 v linfield/glentoran
Bangor 451................1327 v linfield
Dungannon 417...........1060 v linfield
Newry city 335...........854 v linfield
16/01/2009, 6:44 PM
JerseyRed

Surprised at the Glens one TBH. I know they haven't played the blues yet at home....but still...
16/01/2009, 7:32 PM
Cymro

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

As the link you've posted shows, the stats don't back that view up though Cymro.

The Welsh Premeir is actually having its best season ever so-far with regards attendances. The Rhyl-Prestatyn derby on the 27th had a crowd of over 2,100 at it - which is virtually unheard of in Welsh football. The Caernarfon-Bnagor derby the day before that had over 1,000 at it as well.

Regarding the New Saints, their crowds are poor for a team that is always at or near the top of the league, so I wouldn't read too much into them - particularly as they're looking unlikely to win the title again this year. 376 isn't that out of the ordinary an attendance for them - they're averaging 295 a game this season to-date.

The problem with the Welsh league and attendance figures is that the numbers are so low that it isn't difficult for a small number of people to buck the figures in a large way either up or down. If 50 less people turn up to every game one weekend, the averages get completely blown, and vice-versa, as the league only averages about 300 per fixture.

It's great that the Welsh Premier publically report all attendances however - even if it does have tax implications. The Republic's clubs have no excuse.

The 2,126 for Rhyl v Prestatyn was very heartening. Worth stressing though that both that and the 1,027 who attended the other North Wales derby were Boxing Day (or near enough!) games, and hence played some 2 weeks after my original post. At the point of posting the Welsh Premier crowds were generally down on previous years. :cool:

The TNS average wasn't so much the issue I pointed to, just the one-off attendance against Rhyl who are meant to be their main rivals.
17/01/2009, 1:44 PM
citybone

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Originally Posted by Graemerz

Hardly, you may have the most support and there are factors for this but the Cork City name is nothing, Cork are nowhere.

bitter? we molested yee in Windsor yee just caught us with a sucker punch near the end. yee seem to be content being a big fish in a small pond!

your fans useless barely sung until yee scored! cork city may not have a long history but cork football has a long history back to fordsons in 1921.

we have been consistently the best supported club in the eircom league for 5 out of 6 seasons or 6 out of the last 8 seasons. we are the best supported and qualified for Europe for the last 5 years and qualified for every settanta cup so far.

we may be only making history with cork city but we are still the biggest club.
18/01/2009, 12:10 AM
AnnaghRed

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius. Linfield probably have the biggest potential support on the island, but thats got little to do with football.
18/01/2009, 1:22 AM
Graemerz

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Originally Posted by AnnaghRed

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius.

Indeed.

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Originally Posted by citybone

bitter? we molested yee in Windsor yee just caught us with a sucker punch near the end. yee seem to be content being a big fish in a small pond!

Oh so it was our fault your strikers were ****e? Also lets not get into the whole Setanta timing issue. Big fish in a small pond, sorry for us wanting to play football in our own countrys league.

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Originally Posted by citybone

your fans useless barely sung until yee scored! cork city may not have a long history but cork football has a long history back to fordsons in 1921.

Coming from a "massive" club that brought 50 to Windsor.

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Originally Posted by citybone

we have been consistently the best supported club in the eircom league for 5 out of 6 seasons or 6 out of the last 8 seasons. we are the best supported and qualified for Europe for the last 5 years and qualified for every settanta cup so far.

See what Annagh Red posted. Like Cork we have qualified for every Setanta cup competition too, we have qualified as champions. Can Cork say the same thing?

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Originally Posted by citybone

we may be only making history with cork city but we are still the biggest club.

Erm no sorry wrong. Just because you have the biggest support does not make you the biggest club. Your little 20 year history has nothing on ours pal.
18/01/2009, 1:57 AM
Lux Interior

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Originally Posted by citybone

i worked Linfields average out at 2669 so far including the boxing day figure. which would make them the 3rd best supported club on the island behind cork city and Derry

:D

Let's not forget the 4,000 Glenmen there plus the 3,750 'once-a-season' 'Bluemen'.
18/01/2009, 6:10 PM
citybone

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaghRed

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius. Linfield probably have the biggest potential support on the island, but thats got little to do with football.

cobh ramblers? Finn harps or institute with derry?

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Originally Posted by Graemerz

Oh so it was our fault your strikers were ****e?

Coming from a "massive" club that brought 50 to Windsor.

See what Annagh Red posted. Like Cork we have qualified for every Setanta cup competition too, we have qualified as champions. Can Cork say the same thing?

Erm no sorry wrong. Just because you have the biggest support does not make you the biggest club. Your little 20 year history has nothing on ours pal.

we brought 200 on a Monday or Tuesday night for a semi final, most people have jobs or college in cork. yee haven't had to travel far in the settanta cup yet.

we have qualified for next years competition as champions!

so what are the qualities for being a big club?

man utd are a big club right they have the biggest support in the English premier division, celtic/rangers in Scotland, real Madrid/Barcelona in Spain etc.
18/01/2009, 6:32 PM
Graemerz

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Originally Posted by citybone

we brought 200 on a Monday or Tuesday night for a semi final, most people have jobs or college in cork. yee haven't had to travel far in the settanta cup yet.

We have travelled to Dublin and Longford. If it wasn't for our fanbase the Setanta would be no more.

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Originally Posted by citybone

we have qualified for next years competition as champions!

Just because you won the last tournament does not make you champions. You came 5th in the Eircom League last year.

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Originally Posted by citybone

so what are the qualities for being a big club?

man utd are a big club right they have the biggest support in the English premier division, celtic/rangers in Scotland, real Madrid/Barcelona in Spain etc.

Of course fanbase is important but its not be all end all. A long history with a large amount of success is also a factor. Cork only have a 20 year odd history, and although thats not their fault they haven't really achieved enough on that time to be even near Linfield. Like it or not, Linfield are simply the biggest, best and most successful club on the island of Ireland.

Although i take nothing away from Cork, they are a good side, and deserved winners of the Setanta Cup last year.

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Originally Posted by citybone

cobh ramblers? Finn harps or institute with derry?

Cobh is not in the city of Cork. Finn Harps are from Ballybofey, not exactly close to Londonderry city and its in a different country. Institute are from Drumahoe.

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Originally Posted by Lux Interior

:D

Let's not forget the 4,000 Glenmen there plus the 3,750 'once-a-season' 'Bluemen'.

2,500 of those Glenmen are once a season. 100 of the real supporters are the scum, but sure thats Linfield's fault.
18/01/2009, 8:07 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by Graemerz

Cobh is not in the city of Cork. Finn Harps are from Ballybofey, not exactly close to Londonderry city and its in a different country. Institute are from Drumahoe.

Not quite on the topic but Harps are more a Donegal/ West Tyrone club than just Ballybofey/ Twin Towns. Indeed some areas with decent Harps support are those right on the border with Derry.
18/01/2009, 10:20 PM
citybone

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Originally Posted by AnnaghRed

Think he was taking the p1sh a tad. There'd be something badly wrong if Cork and Derry didnt have the biggest crowds considering they have 80000+ populations with no serious rivals within a 30 mile radius. Linfield probably have the biggest potential support on the island, but thats got little to do with football.

thats what i was responding. ballybofey may be over 30 miles im not sure:confused: but institute is only across the river from derry city centre. and cobh is well within 30 miles.

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Originally Posted by Graemerz

Just because you won the last tournament does not make you champions. You came 5th in the Eircom League last year.

Of course fanbase is important but its not be all end all. A long history with a large amount of success is also a factor. Cork only have a 20 year odd history, and although thats not their fault they haven't really achieved enough on that time to be even near Linfield. Like it or not, Linfield are simply the biggest, best and most successful club on the island of Ireland.

Although i take nothing away from Cork, they are a good side, and deserved winners of the Setanta Cup last year.

we won the league in 2005 and hence qualified for the setanta cup in 2006 as champions of our league.

biggest (would normally be mainly fan base
best(arguable, no real criteria)
most successful (yee are the most successful on the island, no argument there, but again big fish small pond) the big welsh teams don't make a big thing about not playing in there own league:p:p
18/01/2009, 11:35 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by citybone

thats what i was responding. ballybofey may be over 30 miles im not sure:confused: but institute is only across the river from derry city centre. and cobh is well within 30 miles.

You can't be serious about Institute being a rival of Derry City. Sure I mean, geographically Newry City are closer to Dundalk than Drogheda United but you'd be laughed out of town for suggesting they were a rival. What are the chances of Derry City and Institute actually meeting in a competitive fixture (ditto for Dundalk and Newry)?
19/01/2009, 12:44 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Graemerz

Cobh is not in the city of Cork. Finn Harps are from Ballybofey, not exactly close to Londonderry city and its in a different country. Institute are from Drumahoe.

Fair play to yee Graemerz - you never miss an opportunity to shoe-horn a petty political dig into a football discussion. That's some talent...

By your flawed, politically-inspired logic, City couldn't have any rivals at all in the Eircom League, as they're all "in a different country" :o

Harps attract more to the Brandywell for our games than any other team north or south do. Nuff said abour rivalries

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Originally Posted by Cymro

The 2,126 for Rhyl v Prestatyn was very heartening. Worth stressing though that both that and the 1,027 who attended the other North Wales derby were Boxing Day (or near enough!) games, and hence played some 2 weeks after my original post. At the point of posting the Welsh Premier crowds were generally down on previous years. :cool:

The TNS average wasn't so much the issue I pointed to, just the one-off attendance against Rhyl who are meant to be their main rivals.

An uncharacteristically high attendance of 801 at Saturday's mid-table meeting of Camarthen - Aber to add to that.

Still tracking to be the best supported season ever for the Welsh league - credit crunch or not. (Though admittedly, we are talking very small numbers).

I'd love to see the likes of Newport Co in the WPL, as they get over a thousand at their games in Blue Square South. But I suspect the fans would rather see their club go bang than let that happen after all that occured in the early 90's.
19/01/2009, 12:48 PM
Graemerz

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Fair play to yee Graemerz - you never miss an opportunity to shoe-horn a petty political dig into a football discussion. That's some talent...

Its not political, its geographical.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

By your flawed, politically-inspired logic, City couldn't have any rivals at all in the Eircom League, as they're all "in a different country" :o

Hardly impossible to have rivalries in different countries. I think its fair to say Linfield/Shamrock Rovers have a history. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Harps attract more to the Brandywell for our games than any other team north or south do. Nuff said abour rivalries

Well they would. Absolutely no problems for FInn Harps to come to the Brandywell, is it the same for Linfield and Glentoran when they visit the Brandywell? The bogside hasn't exactly been very welcoming towards Linfield fans...... :rolleyes:
19/01/2009, 2:03 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by citybone

I'm not a Derry City fan by the way! I'm a Cork City fan and our attendance are official and have a electronic ticket scanning machine to make it accurate.

BIGGEST CLUB ON THE ISLAND!!!

Newcastle United must be the 3rd biggest club in England after Man Utd and Arsenal:rolleyes:
19/01/2009, 6:43 PM
AnnaghRed

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Originally Posted by citybone

cobh ramblers? Finn harps or institute with derry?

Cobh may be Corks derby rivals but barring the odd good result they hardly mount a serious challenge, do they?

Ballybofey is 29.2 miles from Derry according to AA route-finder and i'd imagine few Derry fans see Institute as any real threat to their dominance in the city.
19/01/2009, 9:09 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by AnnaghRed

Cobh may be Corks derby rivals but barring the odd good result they hardly mount a serious challenge, do they?

Ballybofey is 29.2 miles from Derry according to AA route-finder and i'd imagine few Derry fans see Institute as any real threat to their dominance in the city.

It's difficult to see Institute ever being serious rivals for us tbh.

Even if we were in the same league via an all-island venture, they'd most likely not be in the same division as us. And we won't be in the same league as them any other way.

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