Hes only 20 so if he has got his attitude right he can still become the player we all hoped he would be
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Hes only 20 so if he has got his attitude right he can still become the player we all hoped he would be
Just signed for Hibs in Scotland under same manager he did so well with at Falkirk.Hopefully he can re ignite his career
Good move for him. He needs to be playing football and it's reasonable to assume he'll be first choice at Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
At least he'll be playing as the main striker for Hughes.
The only ppl who could possibly still rate this guy are himself and his father in his rubbish articles about how he should be playing
I said a few times it's a pity he's technically superior to a lot of the players he played with because managers then tended to try and get him in the game more. When played deep, on the wing or as a 2nd striker I've rarely been impressed. He's constantly losing possession. When played as the main striker who's role is to beat the offside and score goals he has always impressed me.
I dont think he will ever be heard from again, destined to play the string out with Joe Lampara in Norways 3rd division........If this happens with James McCarthy I will be annoyed.
I have had many a drunken night here talking with Irish Carpenters and Plumbers in Local 1 who took great pains to convince me that the bedrocks of the 2014 team that was to challenge in Brazil were the coy Shane Supple in net, the tricky Tony Stokes and incomprable Liam Miller as an unstoppable tandem boistered by the sure to be healthy Terry Dixon as the new Irish Rover, all over the field. Now look. We are going to have to get Keane Given, and Duff anti ageing pills and they can be expensive.
I totally agree with that.When he was at Falkirk he was allowed to play as an out and out striker and he looked outstanding but since then he has been played as a midfielder,winger and just behind the front man.He is still a kid so if he starts banging in the goals again up there and gets his confidence back he still has a great chance.Wouldnt write him off just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Apart from needing to play on his own up front(which I totally agree with, he has the talent, he clearly cant play anywhere else, needs a fresh start and to knuckle down) hopefully this brings him down to earth a bit and makes him more mature. Thats clearly what he needs to do. He's the proverbial spoilt brat, who is just money mad and incredibly immature. Just after Stokes joined Sunderland, a mate of mine was up outside Club 92(Don't ask me why) talking to the girl Stokes was scoring at the time, and Stokes came up saying he had to go to the banklink. She's said "Its grand, I have some money if you want, just get me back later". His retort?
"Eh, do you have a loan of 6 Grand? Don't think so"
Jayzus... I don't think ATMs give out that kind of poke do they?? Thought it was capped at 750...
Anyhoo... I remember Strachan Questioning his ambition as a player when he rejected Celtic for a decision between a relegation battle with Charlton or Championship football with Sunderland... Seems he wasn't far wrong.
I don't think he's looked in "Good nick" physically for a while... Hope he turns it around but it smacks of another Sean Thornton to me!!
Thats his level alright i suppose,Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
The Thornton comparison is very apt here except worryingly Thornton at least proved he had the ability to do well in the Premiership and subsequently in the Championship while Stokes has been found lacking in both.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
He'll probably do well up in Scotland though so who knows a few years down the line he could step up a level again but I don't now ever see him being the top striker we all hoped for a few years ago.
It was a hell of alot of goals to get for an 18 year old in the SPLQuote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
ManBlue played at U-18s when he was 12, and with the U-11s when he was 4, leave him alone. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
He says so in this video (3 min point on):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJKkOaJW18
Stokes starts up front for Hibs away at Falkirk today. It's on ESPN if anyone wants to check out how he's playing
It doesn't take a scout to see his goalscoring instincts already. Beat the offside line twice so far to receive long balls but just missed both chances. He's had 5 or 6 shots so far. Once he gets a goal he'll be on a run no doubt. Hughes seems to be the only manager that knows him well and that even includes Wenger who wanted him to play on the wing.
Decent debut from Stokes today. As a hibs fan I'm delighted to see so many Irish players turning up at the club all of a sudden, but Stokes is the only one with any real international hopes at senior level.
Looked tidy, but lacking a little match sharpness. Hopefully playing in an attack minded team with a manager that has gotten the best out of him in the past can revive his career.
Wenger was interviewed by an Irish journalist in either the Sunday times or Sunday Indo around 4 years ago and was asked about Stokes. He said he is a player of very good technique but he sees him as a Paul scholes type midfielder hence why he wanted to play him there. Other managers also have played him as a wide midfielderQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
I think its only Stokes himself (and the greatJohn Hughes!) who fancies himself as a striker. I don't rate him upfront as an out and out striker - to me he doesn't have enough pace and isn't a good enough finisher.
Just finished reading Carraghers book and he played upfront until he was 16 and then moved back. If he hadn't of listened to the advice of people who know the game far better than he does, he'd probably be playing up front as a non league striker now.
It seems odd to me that Stokes is happy to ignore (a massive piece) of advice from a manager who is seen as a great in the modern game.
It's only one game I know, but I watched Sunderlanmd's first game of last season - a late win over Spurs I think - and Stokes looked lost upfront. He failed to read any through balls or flick ons and was completely disconnected from his strike partner (Jones?). You can have all the athleticism and talent in the world but if you haven't the footballing intelligence for your position then it's a big mountain to climb. That game put serious doubts in my mind about Stokes' ability as an outright forward (not to mention really careless missed passes against England U21s in Cork). Good player, yes. Good brain? Not so sure.
Stokes starting up front against Celtic. Irish spine in the Hibs team, Stack in goals, Cregg in centre midfield, Stokes up front.
McGeady on the left for Celtic, Flood and O'Dea on the bench
He's just got a goal. Hibs could be the right club for him. He did well in Scotland before and he will learn his trade at that club, and experience playing on abig stage in Ibrox and Parkhead
same applies to Stack, although he's a bit older. I think Stack can still become the regular cover for Given if he gets football
second goal on 73 for Stokes
more to do with the manager than the club to be honest. Hughes got the best out of him before and it looks like he is going to do it again...Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
Needs a run in a team as a striker, he hasnt had that since he was at Falkirk.If it happens and he gets his confidence back he could still develop into a very good player.
I dont care for his 2 goals against less-than worthy opposition. This kid has an attitude. Like Roy said, dont be surprised to see him playing non-league football in a couple years. Clearly in the game for all the wrong reasons...
I have seen him do the same when hes on the **** in Dublin as well.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/home...lub-brawl.html
Was Roy talking about himself as a manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodgycanadian
Saw that on saturday, looks like his mate started a fight, and he got in the middle of itQuote:
Originally Posted by dodgycanadian
Lads, in GAA and soccer clubs all over the country there is rivalry, and often if lads meet out on a night out they end up in fights. But when they are well known soccer players htey get grief and probably rightly so as they should be acting as role models, however they are generally of a lower intellect and therefore dont know any better.
having said all that, i met stokesie out paddys night in London, he is the biggest knob ever, especially given that he was at palace at the time or whatever and he isn't that big a name only to a few irish. I know people would say ah sure he was probably drunk, etc etc, but he didnt appear to be drunk at all. Loads of women were getting ****ed off with him as well.
Stokes just scored again against St. Johnstone, thats three in a week against them, so far...
I was in Edinburgh for a few months until recently, and I heard from a few Hibs fans there that there's a silent investor who tops up Stokes' Hibs wages to match his Sunderland ones until that contract reaches its end. Bizarre situation.
I hope he does well but he needs to cut out these sorts of things:
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/acrosst...ws.asp?n=37215
What else is there to do in Eidenburgh? I dont even know how to spell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie's Son
Stokes scored again last night in first minute. However they lost 3-1 at home to Graham Gartland’s St Johnstone in the CIS Cup,
In his boozer in Fairview last night, great place to watch a match to be fair!
The bar is good, the lounge is a nightmare though. Full of prams and buggies and bottles of 7 up and crisps and tracksuits out for the day.
You think he haved learned his lesson by now.
He has looked the part for Hibs so far but if this lad had cop on he be playing for Arsenal now.
We wondered why Wenger did not keep him at time and we can see now why.
I was in a pub in fairview at the hurling all-ireland. just wondering if its the same one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
Is his pub the sports bar theme one, with beer garden that serves food??
Thats the one. The Players Lounge. http://theplayerslounge.biz/Quote:
Originally Posted by aidz1
Is it not his da's pub?
Good place for a swally post Italy game....
Thats a lie hes not at arsenal/ even playing in the prem anymore because he is bang averageQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian