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Absolutely. But as you say, if he - or Boyle or Hoban or others - were good enough, then they'd have found another club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I expect UCD to thrive next season. That doesn't prove that the Premier is worse than the First
Its the suggestion that, based on the idiotic view that football tactics are somehow "one size fits all" when it comes to the players in those tactics which is quite frankly a baffling view to have and I hope nobody ever takes the opinions of people with that view seriously when it comes to football, returning to the LOI on loan, which is important because Preston could have easily just released him from his contract early, somehow categorically means he isn't good enough for league 1 when it is possible, if not likely that Preston's hierarchy have got offers in from League 1 clubs and Rovers and have decided that there's no point sending him out somewhere where he won't be given the opportunity to do what they signed him for in the first place so the best option is to allow him to go to a team that they know play in a way that will allow him to flourish, worst case scenario from their point of view is they still don't want him but his value goes up a bit from where it is now. From a Preston view if you want Burke to play in a team that can play in a way that suits him your choices are limited, another championship team doesn't make sense from their viewpoint, what League 1 managers say in August and what they're doing by October can be very different, the continent has always been sort of mistrusted by english clubs, then there's Rovers who you know will play a way that will help Burke play to his potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Anyway is this not what we want as a league? English clubs are now looking at out league as a place where their more technical players that might struggle with the more agricultural lower leagues can thrive. Can only help the image of the league and also helps keep players here longer.
As an aside noticed in Dan McDonnells recent indo piece that he says Dundalk are now offering contracts worth around 100,000 a yeah, good to see that clubs are now beginning to be able to afford to pay players wages that allow them to make a good living from the league.
Once again displaying an amazing aptitude to completely miss the pointQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Lumping the individual choices of players and clubs together without really knowing what the true circumstances are, a big assumption that is pointless...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
100k is good money but when said as 2k per week it doesnt sound just so frightening.
The only competitor for basketcase finance of clubs to LOI is league one. Coventry play 70 miles away in Northampton or 20 miles away in Birmingham, Bury not allowed play, Bolton unpaid and staff going to foodbanks, Charlton, Sunderland, Portsmouth and Blackpool all exist in league one or are just promoted. They're the big clubs, not the Southends...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The TV money is bigger, the losses are also bigger - 52 EFL clubs lost money last year. We are only six months since Charlton's owner demanded the EFL takeover the club and before that had Maxi-like fans going over to protest in Belgium. And that was a club in the playoffs!
The LOI is sane by comparison.
I was born in London and am a life long Charlton fan. I was at one of those protests in Belgium. It is incredibly disingenuous to compare the very organised and legal actions taken by various protest groups (CARD, Belgian 20 being the main two) to one nutjob threatening to set himself and a christmas tree on fire. The protests in Belgium have been consisent over the past several years and are largely unrelated to the teams performance. Protests died down last year as it was believed the owner was making a real effort to sell the club but it has become clear that he has unrealistic requirements in any sale and protests will be scaled back up again soon I believe, though no longer at games as whole those get media attention they don't impact the owner as he has only been to one game since taking over in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfx-
Several of the individuals involved in CARD (Coalition Against Roland Duchatelet) in particular are very savvy and experienced, and were heavily involved in the Valley Party in the early 1990s that put pressure on Greenwich council to allow planning permission to redevelop the Valley which had fallen into disrepair forcing the club to spend years playing at Selhurst Park and Upton Park.
The situation at Charlton could be called insane and I wouldn't dispute that, but its the owner whos actions are insane, not the very rational, organised fanbase. The owner just this week was on Talksport explaining why he has been unable to sell the club and effectively said anyone who wanted to buy a Championship club is foolish as all you will do is lose money. This is just one of his many bizarre statements over the past five years.
I wouldn't disagree, it's absolutely no fault of the fans and some of them are going to incredible lengths up and down that league. The fact that the clubs are so badly run and the EFL let them do it so fans have to do that is mad.
Whether it's SISU, Duchatelet, Oyston, Ken Anderson or the others at different times, it's the fans that lose out and they are the ones left to pick up the damage. Some Blackpool fans hadn't seen their club play for five years, team performance was not a consideration either.
Some Coventry fans won't go to home games so as not to fund SISU's legal rampage, they will go to the away games and can travel in larger numbers away than at home.
Transfers thread people
Not to take this thread off topic, but missed here the other day Harps signed Ruairi Harkin from Cliftonville for his second spell at the club.
Jesus, what do you think this is, a transfers thread or something? Back in your lane Nigel!!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
But is Harkin too good for Division 1 ? Or too technical ? You can't just come on hear posting about transfers. Shame on you NigelQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
bohs have signed ex town goalie mick kelly but his contract expired. he was on trial with QPR but that fell through as one unnamed loi club was asking for 400k for their cut of the deal!
Hes over 23 and out of contract no no money needed no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Any use?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IriH3dsAT_IQuote:
Originally Posted by David BOHie
Was brilliant for Longford last season, he's got the best distribution I've seen from any keeper in this league, especially out of his hands, he kicks this lovely flat long ball straight to his target, we scored several goals from it last season. Brilliant shot stopper but my only criticism of him is for an absolute unit of a man he is very suspect under a high ball at timesQuote:
Originally Posted by David BOHie
Has Niall Corbet left Bohs?
Anyone hear any news on Zach Elbouzedi? He's out of contract with Waterford end of this season, Dundalk were meant to have made an offer last month which was rejected, no idea on details or if an improved offer will be made.
He will also have UK options I`m sure, but that would have to be from 1st Jan only.
heard shamrock rovers were looking for their slice of the deal so by my reckoning he would be below age 23 imo when he was with them. Cabinteely were looking as well for their slice also!Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
July 96 would put him as over 23 now and if he's only signing now if a team really wanted him I doubt compensation would be the issue, I'd also be very very skeptical of anyone claiming a LOI club were looking for anywhere near 400k development money and even if they were that QPR wouldn't then take their chances at a tribunal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
I thought Kelly was crap tbh. He's young enough yet though and will still learn.
Billy Dennehy has announced that he and Darren have retired from football. Slightly surprised nobody took a punt on Billy but maybe his job with the Kerry U17s and presumably his day job stopped that happening
Figures dont add up - more likely to be 40k not 400k.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Dan Carr to Apollan Limassol according to Dan McDonnell
Rovers taking on the leagues 'selling club' tag?
Makes sense with Burke and farrugia coming in but sorry to see him go.
Not a very prolific striker but every once in a while he would have a match where he was unplayable just not often enough, nice lad by all accounts wish him the best.
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Originally Posted by sbgawa
Obviously Apollon and most non Rovers fans highly rate Carr. Not really sure why he was always talked down by a lot of Rovers fans.
Good business for Apollon, Carr out of contract in three months so modest enough fee I would think.
Never seemed to fit in at Tallaght. Always impressed me in games against us and am glad he is gone before the last derby of the season ! interesting move for him, best of luck with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
If the lad could time a run he'd be lethal. Was offside every time the ball went forward against Dundalk, Gartland and Hoare mad him look like a mug. Surprised by the move I have to say.
He didn't score enough goals simple as lads,
I can see why non rovers fans would rate him because if one of the matches where he played well was against your team he looks fantastic but when you saw him every week he was incredibly frustrating.
I'm not glad to see him go butif we go a fee (i assume we did) for a player who will be out of contract in 10 weeks and isnt a starter how bad is that?
Agree with Sbgawa, Carr was head wrecking when you saw him week in week out, nice lad by all accounts but even Carr did not know what he was doing 9 10ths of the time.
Dan Carr caused plenty of difficulty for Dundalk's central defenders on most of the occasions he was played at centre forward. Apart from a tendency to get easily caught offside (partially due to midfielders not playing the ball early enough) his aerial and physical threat was significant in those matches
When he played out wide, he caused little trouble except perhaps for his own full back. In the last league match in Oriel Park he left James Furlong totally exposed for most of the match before eventually getting hooked after 65 minutes.
On the evidence of those games - a decent centre forward
Never first choice for us and his contract is winding down. But we are a selling club and I think that's been made clear in the past year or so, so you'll see more players go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I wouldn't have said physicality was one of his attributes, especially against Dundalk. His main attribute is his skills and being in the right place to get on the end of moves but too often Rovers don't cut teams apart to make the best of his ability. He'll have a chance of being the main man Apollon given what I've seen from them - their hatstand wasn't great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Carr is over in cyprus doing his medical, still a year and a half left on his contract with Rovers so should be decent enough money involved.
4 months left on his contract according to the ii soccer guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38408373.htmlQuote:
His deal with the Hoops is up at the end of the year, so a small fee would have to be thrashed out to facilitate the move
Bradley said last night a year and a half.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Even getting a fee akin to a bag of balls would be fine for a player that (a) is out of contract shortly (b) has been regularly criticised by Bradley and (c) appears to be largely unloved by the Rovers sporting intellegensa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
It hardly compares with previous master strokes like getting c€35k from Wimbleton for Dylan Connolly or Cork pocketing a fee from Hartlepool for Denis Behan
No bodger Asterix,glad to hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Carr is a good player but drifts in and out of games and might show up one game, might not the next. When he's on form he's magic but his inconsistency frustrates people, I'll be sad to see him go because hes a nice lad that can be box office but can't complain about getting a decent fee for someone that's not a guaranteed starter
B and C just aren't true. "shortly" is still longer than most full contract lengths in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial