Clare Junior Soccer

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Originally Posted by Prem Rep!

Bridge and Rineanna is on Friday Evening

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I would say the Bridge will give the game to Rineanna as they have nothing to play for and that should mean that Cratloe v Rineanna should be some game a real scrap, Rineanna I believe have won both Fixtures in the League this year which is quiet surprising considering the table and yes the League have done it again, name any other League in the World that would let Connolly keep the only 3 points they won before they pulled out, guess what it was Rineanna that lost. All results should be null and void for games against Connolly!!!!! When are we going to challenge the League with new ideas and the correct Rules?

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Originally Posted by MadMick

I would say the Bridge will give the game to Rineanna as they have nothing to play for and that should mean that Cratloe v Rineanna should be some game a real scrap, Rineanna I believe have won both Fixtures in the League this year which is quiet surprising considering the table and yes the League have done it again, name any other League in the World that would let Connolly keep the only 3 points they won before they pulled out, guess what it was Rineanna that lost. All results should be null and void for games against Connolly!!!!! When are we going to challenge the League with new ideas and the correct Rules?

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Has any action been taken against Connolly other than going into the first division where they were heading for anyway, they should be put into the 3rd division next year and let a 3rd division team into the 2nd and so on...that would reward teams that put time and effort into ther season, im sure teams that are in the playoffs would agree :ball:

[QUOTE=MadMick]I would say the Bridge will give the game to Rineanna

You must be joking, Bridge don't roll over for anyone and would not expect anyone to hand a game to them. Last year when we needed 1 win to secure the league Rineanna came to the bridge and fought like dogs and earned a draw (fair play to them).
They had nothing to play for then but didn't want us to win. Why should we return the favour.
Any team that does not fulfil their fixtures should be fined, whether it be first or last game of the season. Clubs have to take responsibility for improving the image of the league as well. It is easy to point fingers at the Clare League committee (who may I add give hours and hours of voluntary time each year to facilitate our league).

We must improve our own clubs first. Well run clubs means a well run league and a well run club is a proud clud who does not give walkovers.

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Originally Posted by MadMick

I would say the Bridge will give the game to Rineanna

You must be joking, Bridge don't roll over for anyone and would not expect anyone to hand a game to them. Last year when we needed 1 win to secure the league Rineanna came to the bridge and fought like dogs and earned a draw (fair play to them).
They had nothing to play for then but didn't want us to win. Why should we return the favour.
Any team that does not fulfil their fixtures should be fined, whether it be first or last game of the season. Clubs have to take responsibility for improving the image of the league as well. It is easy to point fingers at the Clare League committee (who may I add give hours and hours of voluntary time each year to facilitate our league).

We must improve our own clubs first. Well run clubs means a well run league and a well run club is a proud clud who does not give walkovers.

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Yes but what about all the GAA lads??

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Originally Posted by MadMick

I would say the Bridge will give the game to Rineanna

You must be joking, Bridge don't roll over for anyone and would not expect anyone to hand a game to them. Last year when we needed 1 win to secure the league Rineanna came to the bridge and fought like dogs and earned a draw (fair play to them).
They had nothing to play for then but didn't want us to win. Why should we return the favour.
Any team that does not fulfil their fixtures should be fined, whether it be first or last game of the season. Clubs have to take responsibility for improving the image of the league as well. It is easy to point fingers at the Clare League committee (who may I add give hours and hours of voluntary time each year to facilitate our league).

We must improve our own clubs first. Well run clubs means a well run league and a well run club is a proud clud who does not give walkovers.

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Well said PremRep (I'll have to ask Beano if you are who I think you are!!!). Many are for too quick to slag off the league without realising how much work they do put in. It seems that the more time and effort you put in to the Clare League, the more duties fall into your lap and the more open you are to criticism. It would be easy for these guys to decide they can't be bothered with the hassle and just chuck it in, and where would we be then? Prime example is Mike Lydon who puts in endless hours in a thankless job. I also agree with what you're saying about not fulfilling fixtures. We had to go out last week and play a meaningless game against Rock rovers. Neither team had anything to play for as far as promotion or relegation was concerned but we did it anyway. The bottom line is, at the start of the season, you sign up to play soccer and to play out the season. Just because you get a bit cheesed off towards the end of the season is no reason to let your team-mates and club down.

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We must improve our own clubs first. Well run clubs means a well run league and a well run club is a proud clud who does not give walkovers.[/QUOTE]

Well said Prem Rep. you are dead right. Clubs should take it upon themselves to improve their own clubs image's. The rest will follow suit. Plus what about a little thing called local pride? Why any club would give a walkover is beyond me?

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Originally Posted by MadMick

Yes but what about all the GAA lads??

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For a club to be successful they cannot rely on the GAA lads. We in the Bridge are always relying on a few GAA lads to strenghten our squad but the core of the team would be soccer guys.
If we are to accomodate the GAA guys it would ,mean we only have 3 months to get our business out of the way. Most Senior and football teams train for 9 mths in the year.
It is hard in Clare to accomodate everyone but primarily I would worry about the Soccer guys first,GAA guys second.
We can no longer play second fiddle.

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Originally Posted by Prem Rep!

We can no longer play second fiddle.

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Thats the fighting talk needed Prem Rep!!!!!!

Good to see something worth reading on this forum. If all clubs had the attitude that some of ye have then we would improve with each season no doubt...

Huge game Friday really and good to see Bridge will be taking the attitude they took for the 2 game svs Cratloe. I'd expect nothing less from them.

Fair play to the rovers for getting the point in the Bridge last season.... I think we (Rats) gained most out of it when we fell over the line to the Premier title.... I think we had lost to Newtown the same night but won the league in Newmarket the following Sunday.... Happy days but seems yonks ago now!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by handyman

Ah those were the days :cool:

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my friend...

Premier League Shield Final @ Bunratty...

Newmarket 0 3 Newtown....

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Originally Posted by CousinSylDolan

Premier League Shield Final @ Bunratty...

Newmarket 0 3 Newtown....

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Bounced back from losing to Corofin, I hear they are still whingeing about that game last Sunday? What Kind of Team did Newmarket put out?

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Originally Posted by MadMick

Bounced back from losing to Corofin, I hear they are still whingeing about that game last Sunday? What Kind of Team did Newmarket put out?

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They played well considering the cup result.Im told Newmarket had some B team with them and some young lads(good mind you) but they had 16.Sean Lindsay was magic again.
No whinging about Sunday other than about the Hound of the Baskeville who did the line on their side at Doora.What a pain in the ass that man is.

Sean Lindsay is still playing???? What age is he? I remember playing with him ten years ago and i thought he was finishing up back then. Fair play.

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Originally Posted by OpenGoal

Sean Lindsay is still playing???? What age is he? I remember playing with him ten years ago and i thought he was finishing up back then. Fair play.

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I think he thought you were done 10 years ago :p

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

I think he thought you were done 10 years ago :p

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When are you scheduled to play your big game?

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Originally Posted by MadMick

When are you scheduled to play your big game?

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There could be news on that today or tomorrow clare league are in a hurry to get the season over so who knows what they'll do

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

I think he thought you were done 10 years ago :p

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Yes true, and he wouldve been correct

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

I think he thought you were done 10 years ago :p

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He retired about 7 years ago and made a comeback last year but could only play a few minutes with his knees.This year he is getting through most games.But he does more work and good stuff than most guys do in 10 matches.
If he had been this consistent I,d say Hugh Kelly would have had him in the Oscars.Hugh is a great admirer.Roll on Shanto for another few years!!

The fixture(s) for the premier/1st division playoff are listed in the champion. It has a provisional fixture for Sunday at 11 Rineanna v Cratloe and also a fixture for 11 for Olympic v Rineanna or Cratloe. I presume this means that if Rineanna don't beat the Bridge on Friday, they will be playing Olympic on sunday (At Ballycasey). Then the Olympic fixture is repeated on Thursday at 7 in Ballycasey. It looks like this means if Rineanna do beat the Bridge on Friday, they will then play off against Cratloe on Sunday for the right to stay up while the losers will then play off against Olympic on Thursday. Confused?

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Originally Posted by oldspice

The fixture(s) for the premier/1st division playoff are listed in the champion. It has a provisional fixture for Sunday at 11 Rineanna v Cratloe and also a fixture for 11 for Olympic v Rineanna or Cratloe. I presume this means that if Rineanna don't beat the Bridge on Friday, they will be playing Olympic on sunday (At Ballycasey). Then the Olympic fixture is repeated on Thursday at 7 in Ballycasey. It looks like this means if Rineanna do beat the Bridge on Friday, they will then play off against Cratloe on Sunday for the right to stay up while the losers will then play off against Olympic on Thursday. Confused?

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We play in the Clare league did you expect anything else other than confusion, people who might be working sunday will have to wait untill late friday to see if they are playing sunday morning or not...fair play to the league to think about the players, and they wonder why the limerick teams find it easy to get clare players to join there teams,why not have the game Friday followed by the playoff next weekend and if there has to be a match in between it can be played midweek...common sense is too much to ask :mad:

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

We play in the Clare league did you expect anything else other than confusion, people who might be working sunday will have to wait untill late friday to see if they are playing sunday morning or not...fair play to the league to think about the players, and they wonder why the limerick teams find it easy to get clare players to join there teams,why not have the game Friday followed by the playoff next weekend and if there has to be a match in between it can be played midweek...common sense is too much to ask :mad:

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What kind of a PAGAN would work on a Sunday??????? ;)

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Originally Posted by OpenGoal

What kind of a PAGAN would work on a Sunday??????? ;)

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A referee :D :D

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Originally Posted by MadMick

Bounced back from losing to Corofin, I hear they are still whingeing about that game last Sunday? What Kind of Team did Newmarket put out?

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Absolutely not,fair play to Corofin,Newtown never whinged about losing the game,the whinged like all the teams do when they get that ejit the famous Paddy.He was only doing the line but again he needs centre stage.On the match Newtown missed a hatful of changes but Corofin hung in there and got what they deserved.I would also like to wish both Corofin and Moher all the best in the Final.
Newtown played well in the Shield final,2 lovely goals by Johnny O and Cheeky to lead 2-0 at HT,Jay Stretton added a 3rd with a penalty.Great night in the lodge with the cup with hopefully 2 more to follow,we play Bridge Celtic on Sunday in Doora in the FAI area final (2pm) and Rinneanna Rovers in the Munster area Final the following week in Rinneanna,both games will be tough.It was great to see Cousinsyl there,i thought he might have given his views on the match. :ball: :ball:

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Originally Posted by BallBreaker

Absolutely not,fair play to Corofin,Newtown never whinged about losing the game,the whinged like all the teams do when they get that ejit the famous Paddy.He was only doing the line but again he needs centre stage.On the match Newtown missed a hatful of changes but Corofin hung in there and got what they deserved.I would also like to wish both Corofin and Moher all the best in the Final.
Newtown played well in the Shield final,2 lovely goals by Johnny O and Cheeky to lead 2-0 at HT,Jay Stretton added a 3rd with a penalty.Great night in the lodge with the cup with hopefully 2 more to follow,we play Bridge Celtic on Sunday in Doora in the FAI area final (2pm) and Rinneanna Rovers in the Munster area Final the following week in Rinneanna,both games will be tough.It was great to see Cousinsyl there,i thought he might have given his views on the match. :ball: :ball:

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Was Paul Carr playing for Newtown,Ballbreaker??

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Originally Posted by OpenGoal

Sean Lindsay is still playing???? What age is he? I remember playing with him ten years ago and i thought he was finishing up back then. Fair play.

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Sean Lindsay is a legend!!!!

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Originally Posted by Revolver

Was Paul Carr playing for Newtown,Ballbreaker??

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Came on for the last 15 mins,Paul has struggled with an injury since christmas,he been back on the panel for the last few matches,
and i agree Lindsay is magic,he puts everything into it,he shows great heart in all games. :ball: :ball:

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Originally Posted by BallBreaker

Came on for the last 15 mins,Paul has struggled with an injury since christmas,he been back on the panel for the last few matches,
and i agree Lindsay is magic,he puts everything into it,he shows great heart in all games. :ball: :ball:

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I actually was speaking to a Newtown guy in Shannon last night and he told me he just can't get on the team.
Injured or not???

What a player,shame if he is wasted on the bench.

Lot's of clubs would be crying out for a guy as talented as him,Ballbreaker.

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Originally Posted by Revolver

I actually was speaking to a Newtown guy in Shannon last night and he told me he just can't get on the team.
Injured or not???

What a player,shame if he is wasted on the bench.

Lot's of clubs would be crying out for a guy as talented as him,Ballbreaker.

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I am not sure it should be wasted on the bench, he is were he is because "He is always wasted in the Pub"!!!! Harsh maybe but Paul has a Junior International Cap, without doubt the most gifted player we have produced and a joy to watch when on song but a flawed attitude, now we could all name a few players with less ability but have done more, ability does not always guarantee success!

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Originally Posted by handyman

No need for that here mick give it a rest.If you have something to say to bunny then say it to him but dont be saying stuff like that on this site. :mad:

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Apologies did not mean to affend, just trying to make a point!! I think the world of Paul and he would freely admit his achilles heel.

With sean lindasay playing well and Pcarr to come back into the team next year, along with the youngsters okoro & cheeky etc., newtown must be fairly confident of a good year next year?? Am i right?? Hope fully the olympic can drag themselves kicking and screaming back up into the premier so we can contest the derby games again.

[QUOTE=4-4-2]We play in the Clare league did you expect anything else other than confusion

Come on 4-4-2, it's not rocket science. Would you prefer the league to drag on for another week and have no fixture Sunday?

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

We play in the Clare league did you expect anything else other than confusion

Come on 4-4-2, it's not rocket science. Would you prefer the league to drag on for another week and have no fixture Sunday?

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So you have a full team tonight?

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

We play in the Clare league did you expect anything else other than confusion

Come on 4-4-2, it's not rocket science. Would you prefer the league to drag on for another week and have no fixture Sunday?

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Got it in one its not rocket science so why do the fixtures always seem like someone from another planet came up with them...i play for Olympic and we had the same a week or two ago where we played 2 games with only one day in between them and our lads were tired in the second game, now dont get me wrong this could be an advantage to Olympic come sunday but you have to think past this season and ask the question are the league showing respect to players who give up alot in a season be it work or time with there family's to train and play games during the winter in the muck and S**T and come the end of the season have to plan around fixture's which someone just picks of the top of his head so he can get the season over with...if Connoly were in the playoffs would there be only one days rest...i think not so thats my rant over for the day, feel free to come back and say what a great job he is doing with the fixtures but its the way i and most people i have talked to feel,
P.S are the fixtures made out at the start of the season ,if a fixutre is not fulfilled it should be put to the end of the season if not why is this not in place and published at the start of the season so teams know who and when they play... rant rant rant

Newtown confidence appears to be on a high at the moment.
Any predictions for Sunday.
Newtown 2 - 1 Bridge Celtic

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Originally Posted by Prem Rep!

Got it in one its not rocket science so why do the fixtures always seem like someone from another planet came up with them...i play for Olympic and we had the same a week or two ago where we played 2 games with only one day in between them and our lads were tired in the second game, now dont get me wrong this could be an advantage to Olympic come sunday but you have to think past this season and ask the question are the league showing respect to players who give up alot in a season be it work or time with there family's to train and play games during the winter in the muck and S**T and come the end of the season have to plan around fixture's which someone just picks of the top of his head so he can get the season over with...if Connoly were in the playoffs would there be only one days rest...i think not so thats my rant over for the day, feel free to come back and say what a great job he is doing with the fixtures but its the way i and most people i have talked to feel,
P.S are the fixtures made out at the start of the season ,if a fixutre is not fulfilled it should be put to the end of the season if not why is this not in place and published at the start of the season so teams know who and when they play... rant rant rant

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In a part time amateur league it would be impossible to have a master fixture list published at the start of the season. There are too many variables such as weather, clubs wanting free weekends, not knowing who will survive in the cups etc. If the fixtures were published and then changed, you would always have some club disadvantaged as a result and you can be sure they would complain then with the "master" list to back up their argument. Please bear in mind that Mike Lydon is doing this in his "spare" time with no reward. I actually remember last season hearing people giving out that he wasn't doing his job and at the same time he was trying to care for his father who was dying. The guy is doing a job that no-one else would agree to do. I challenge anyone who thinks they can do a better job to step up to the mark. I have been accused of being too pro Mike Lydon but really why must it be a contest? I happen to think he is doing a good job with very little help (Barry Downes being the one exception).

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

In a part time amateur league it would be impossible to have a master fixture list published at the start of the season. There are too many variables such as weather, clubs wanting free weekends, not knowing who will survive in the cups etc. If the fixtures were published and then changed, you would always have some club disadvantaged as a result and you can be sure they would complain then with the "master" list to back up their argument. Please bear in mind that Mike Lydon is doing this in his "spare" time with no reward. I actually remember last season hearing people giving out that he wasn't doing his job and at the same time he was trying to care for his father who was dying. The guy is doing a job that no-one else would agree to do. I challenge anyone who thinks they can do a better job to step up to the mark. I have been accused of being too pro Mike Lydon but really why must it be a contest? I happen to think he is doing a good job with very little help (Barry Downes being the one exception).

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Well this is one of the only countries at Amateur level not to have a fixture book, this can generate money through sales and sponsorship, but the main reason is to give everyone a fair idea of the fixtures they have to play, a full fixture book is not actually a difficult thing to produce and can be done in minutes, I agree the weather is a problem and giving teams free weekends to be honest is a joke. For the league to improve then it really must decide what it wants to achieve, as I have said before it should be 3 Divisions but I think that for the good of the game we should be playing the 2 main divisions on a Saturday and the Reserve League on a Sunday!!! Again there was a meeting between four or five prem clubs but nothing has been heard of since, obviously could not agree on anything!!!!

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Originally Posted by oldspice

Well this is one of the only countries at Amateur level not to have a fixture book, this can generate money through sales and sponsorship, but the main reason is to give everyone a fair idea of the fixtures they have to play, a full fixture book is not actually a difficult thing to produce and can be done in minutes, I agree the weather is a problem and giving teams free weekends to be honest is a joke. For the league to improve then it really must decide what it wants to achieve, as I have said before it should be 3 Divisions but I think that for the good of the game we should be playing the 2 main divisions on a Saturday and the Reserve League on a Sunday!!! Again there was a meeting between four or five prem clubs but nothing has been heard of since, obviously could not agree on anything!!!!

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Some good stuff in what you say,icluding the good work Michael Lydon does,but the rules have been bent to suit GAA clubs including his own and that cannot be allowed to nhappen.
however the Saturday fixtures is totally unrealisdtic because of work culture here.Im amazed how you come to that as a solution???

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Originally Posted by gaffer

Newtown confidence appears to be on a high at the moment.
Any predictions for Sunday.
Newtown 2 - 1 Bridge Celtic

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Newtown are hopelessly inconsistent.How they managed to keep a clean sheet in any match is just by chance but bear in mind that Damien Alford was missing against Corofin due to a family commitment and was playing against Newmarket.

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Originally Posted by 4-4-2

In a part time amateur league it would be impossible to have a master fixture list published at the start of the season. There are too many variables such as weather, clubs wanting free weekends, not knowing who will survive in the cups etc. If the fixtures were published and then changed, you would always have some club disadvantaged as a result and you can be sure they would complain then with the "master" list to back up their argument. Please bear in mind that Mike Lydon is doing this in his "spare" time with no reward. I actually remember last season hearing people giving out that he wasn't doing his job and at the same time he was trying to care for his father who was dying. The guy is doing a job that no-one else would agree to do. I challenge anyone who thinks they can do a better job to step up to the mark. I have been accused of being too pro Mike Lydon but really why must it be a contest? I happen to think he is doing a good job with very little help (Barry Downes being the one exception).

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Sorry but we are all doing it in our spare time and while im sorry about anyone who has to go throught a loss such as he did i still think it can be done better and a master list as you call it is very easy to do when you just stick to it, players know when and where they are playing and they can plan around it and i agree with madmick( may i burn for doing so ) you could make money from selling it althought i was thinking more along the lines of a web site or print it in the paper

..........................as I have said before it should be 3 Divisions but I think that for the good of the game we should be playing the 2 main divisions on a Saturday and the Reserve League on a Sunday!!! Again there was a meeting between four or five prem clubs but nothing has been heard of since, obviously could not agree on anything!!!![/QUOTE]

have to agree with madmick here. saturday football is an excellent idea. Who wants to stay in on a saturday night in their teens/ 20's????