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How so? That the player wasn't registered when Legia played Pat's simply means that he wasn't serving his ban. As a result, the Pat's games did not have the effect of diminishing his three-match ban. Only once they registered him (before the Celtic game) did he commence the serving of his ban. And the punishment for fielding a suspended player isn't expulsion from competition anyway; rather, the match concerned is declared forfeit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nailor
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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Sorry, the way it's wrtten on balls seems to suggest he played the last four minutes against Pat's, my bad :)
I bet Legia wished they'd scored one of those penalties now
it would have been hilarious if Celtic got the 3-0 and still got knocked out.
I'm hearing Maribor have been kicked out of the Champion's League after drawing Celtic in the next round.
No Apostrophe!
;)
And surprisingly few champions.
I feel sorry for Legia after they thoroughly deserved to be through based on their performance in the pitch but to get something like this wrong us such a poor mistake to make. As for Celtic, they were absolutely woeful and don't deserve the reprieve at all.
Aye, but been like that for years. There UEFA really are to blame.
And for the record, Celtic got lucky. They didn't deserve to get through, but lost out to UEFA in the past too. Karma and all that.
Except they played a banned player...their fault. No-one else's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
When's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Whilst technically the competition rules have been breached decisions like this are just wrong and ulimately highlight everything that is wrong with the game now. Money is the major motivator as everyone knows, the spirit of the game and fair play just doesn't factor anymore. Celtic were easily beaten by a better team over two legs not just a once off lucky result and should not be re-instated. Unfortunately this is the way big business and football are now.
Can we stop polluting the LOI forum with this crap? There's an SPL thread for Tim Talk.
Ha ha and check yer football history Dodge. Unlike some, know you're capable of finding it out.
Stjarnan pulled it off against Lech Poznan, I thought they would get pumped but in fact the game was much easier to handle than the home tie.
After the final whistle the Poznan fans gave a whole hearted, memorable tribute to Stjarnan (in yellow), who to begin with, were a bit cautious about milking it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wN_axjgQAc#t=116
Great draw for Stjarnan in playing Inter MilanQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Like Dodge I'm relatively au fait with my anorak-y football history, but I'm struggling for a time when Celtic "lost out to UEFA" ....
Would it be around 1985 when they beat rapid Vienna and then were forced to replay the game at old Trafford after one of their fans attacked a rapid player? That's all I can think of.
Aye, that was in 1984: http://sport.stv.tv/football/125442-...g-and-replays/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsIWOApNf6s
Whilst there were items being thrown on the pitch from the stands, a Rapid player played the victim of a missile attack that never was and UEFA ordered a replay in Old Trafford. To be fair, I do think UEFA made a harsh and unusual call on that occasion. We'd been discussing it here in the Champions League 2014-15 thread.
Forced to Replay a game against Vienna when a fan attacked one of their players.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Numerous fines
The "Uefa Cup" final against "cheating" Porto
What did the fines relate to? The Rapid Vienna game?Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Milan game last year, fine for a display which they claimed was political yet let Barca away with having Catalan flags and a msg about their right to freedom the following week.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Europa League game in France the year before for an anti Uefa banner
Plenty more for pyro
Im sure I could go on and on
The poor things.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
But those incidents are all against UEFA rules, which Celtic voluntarily sign up to when they enter UEFA competition. They're not indicative of an anti-Celtic bias. Lots of clubs are punished or fined for similar reasons; not just Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Get out of it. The worlds against them. That's why they haven't won the last 25 Champions Leagues.
The point people were making is Celtic have never been punished by Uefa.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
The incidents of both Sion and Leiga were against UEFA rules, that both boluntarily signed upto when they entered the tournament, so they have rightly been banned (Sion as per rules) and lost 3-0 (Leiga as per rules)
If you have a look back to the origin of the discussion, you'll see that people were questioning the following notion: that Celtic haven't had the rub of the green, as it were, over the years when it comes to UEFA (as if they've often had to put up with some form of institutional unfair treatment or bias), thus justifying the good fortune of which they were beneficiaries in the past week.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
The Rapid Vienna from 1984 example is fair enough - the punishment of demanding an Old Trafford replay of their 3-0 win in Celtic Park seems odd and unusually harsh - but that's just one example. I've not been able to find any other examples where UEFA have given Celtic a raw deal. I'm not necessarily saying they don't exist; I just haven't seen the evidence yet.
Sion and Legia have nothing to do with this; they knew the rules and were rightly punished, is right.
At this stage I think we've wandered far enough from any tenuous link to LOI involvement in Europe. If people feel the need to further discuss Celtic it's best to take it to the SPL thread.
Just want to pay a belated tribute to our European entrants. Say what you like about League of Ireland teams in Europe, but they generally only get hilariously eliminated once per season.
YAY! Everybody, It's Sheridan!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
I think that might be the most positive thing I've ever seen Sheridan say.
You guys need to stop cyber-bullying me :/
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It's either him or TOWK. We can't have both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Malmo, who only this time last year needed a goal in the last minute in the 2nd leg to see off Drogheda United in the Europa League qualification round, have qualified for the Champions League. Well done to them.
Their second goal was brilliant:Quote:
Originally Posted by MeathDrog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRtszTOT3FM
Edit: Video's been removed from YouTube; here's a vine: https://vine.co/v/MlDY5m0DjMp
If we look at the 5 entrants from the Champions section this season, one is likely to think that a good all round League of Ireland team is capable of knocking out one of those teams, perhaps not APOEL but the others, its what I think anyway:)
Maribor (Slovenia)
Ludogorets (Bulgaria)
Malmo (Sweden)
BATE (Belarus)
APOEL (Cyprus)
It's not so long ago Cork City beat Malmo 4-1 in Europe and Bohs knocked out Bate. Just shows what long term planning and investment can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Sorry not a hope:) Ludogorets had an amazing run last season, and knocked out a few big hitters in the Europa, and BATE are very well funded. 40th in the Europe for the LOI is about right I think, the LOI has gone backward in years while these leagues have improved steadily.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Drogheda almost knocked Malmo out last season. I know Cork knocked them out a few years ago but that was back 2005. As for BATE and APOEL (didn't Cork knock them out in the CL?) it just goes to show that if a LoI club can break into the groups stages they can be set-up for life! Not so long ago if one of of our clubs got any of them you'd fancy are chances!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
That wasn't cheating. Just a poor ref in fairness. Every club in the land have fell foul of that and have benefited from it as well. Celtic FC - Never defeated, always cheated.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10