The sooner Salthill leave the league the better. 25 people. wow. Definitely a record low
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The sooner Salthill leave the league the better. 25 people. wow. Definitely a record low
I would agree a lot of our 2009 figures did not seem correct, and were over estimated, compare the crowds the following season under Foster, around the same as now, they didnt look too reduced from 2009.Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
Whatever about the past, it is good to see exact figures being released by the club now. I think all clubs should report exact attendances, no reason to hide the truth, if its bad so what, just report it.
to be fair lads I thought the DFC promotion of matches this season has been absolutely desperate. With the exception of here, orielweb, dfc.com and the dfc facebook page there was sweet f all advertisement and promotion of the game. throughout town I never saw any posters up around town, considering what else was on in town and the middle of summer and a heatwave I thought our crowd was around 400 better than my est prior to the game. we seriously need to drive our promotions of the matches. especially if we want to show Sk that we have the same ambition as him in developing & growing the club
Maybe the worst attendance ever for a league match in Europe? Worth investigating.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufc2000
How could it be when there have been matches played behind closed doors. Plus there are matches in similar level leagues with almost nobody at it. It's depressing but goes solely to show that fans are a) event junkies, or b) not fans of football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
I remember reading one of the record low attendance for a Premier Div game in Europe was held by Newry Town, at the time they were in the IL PD, and less than 100 were at a game, 89 I think was the crowd. Cant recall who it was against, but it was around 3 years ago.
How many Galway fans turned up to count the attendance?Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
23. The two other people took a wrong turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean South
3180 in The Showgrounds
Week 16:
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1,588 (1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366; 1,993; 1,924; 1,463; 1,976)
Bray - 875 (965; 1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 2,010 (2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1,588 (1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 893 (977; 811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1,767 (949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Limerick - 2,028 (734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD; 517 FD; 670 FD; 364 FD; 669 FD)
Pat's - 1,395 (1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 2,990 (3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1,067 (1,187; 781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2,599 (3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 407 (506; 558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 465 (271; 200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Cobh - 511 (2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403; 240)
Harps - 559 (429; 433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Longford - 360 (365; 315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 255 (243; 349; 123; 166)
Salthill Devon - 130 (182; 125; 122)
Waterford - 408 (453; 466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 224 (302; 216; 343; 494; 767; 810)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,601 (1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 366 (372; 578; 682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,160 (1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)
TOTAL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 11,095 (including Limerick v Bray from midweek)
OVERALL ATTENDANCE: 216,938
For those interested, Salthill gave 96 as official attendance. Their second worst official attendance of the year as they had a 48 earlier in the season.
LMFM reported 253 at UCD v Drogs, which just about pushes the weekly figure over the 10k mark, but 8,000 came from 3 games.
First time the weekly figure has gone over 10k for a good few weeks. First time this side of the mid-season break for certain. That's obviously in large thanks to the 3,000+ in Sligo today but good to see once again nevertheless.
Nigel, the total weekly attendance (10,181) is for the PD only right?
Lim'k 1.2?
Dlk, 1.8
Rovers 3
Sligo 3.2
UCD 0.25
Shels 0.8
Approx 10.2k
Maybe update the wording to say PREMIER ?
Limerick was 914
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Originally Posted by oriel
Didn't include the Limerick figure actually. Just the weekend games. I'll add it in now however. Good spot.
The 10,181 is all 9 games played at the weekend. 11,095 would be all 10 including Limerick.
Breaks down as follows.
Limerick 914
Dundalk 1,848
Shamrock Rovers 2,712
Sligo 3,180
UCD 253
Shels 805
Athlone 544
Harps 400 (est)
Salthill 96 (official..supposedly)
Waterford 343.
On another note, if I can obtain an official figure from Harps, it'll be the first time every club has given an official attendance since I started doing this two years ago.
The FD is showing really poor figures this year and is on target for the worst since records were recorded on here around 2005. Disappointingly not even 1,400 combined at the 4 games, you can see where the overall avg of 366 comes from. Waterford and Harps having average/poor seasons is not helping matters.
First Division is barely breaking 1,000 each week. It's disappointing indeed. Athlones attendances are starting to rise slightly and should see out the rest of the season around the 600 mark, which is okay considering how poor their attendances have been consistently for the past few years.
Should Waterford and Harps start a push for play-off places toward the end of the season, attendances there will rise over 700+ which should raise the average again.
I've no doubt it'll beat last years average come the end of the season, but whether it reaches around 500 remains to be seen unless there's some pretty big attendances to come.
I really have to laugh how anti-athlone you are nigel. Why would Waterford and Harps rise to 700+ and ours wont? If we are still close to top or top in the next few weeks we will easily get 800-1000 for games.
Around 350 Pats supporters amongst the attendance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Probably because historically those sides always get higher attendances than Athlone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Because the have been near the top of the league each year whereas we have been bottom 3-4. Look at Waterford premier division crowds. Really think we wont get more than that if we go up? Why would people come watch us if we are bottom few. Saying our crowds will stay around 600 are a bit off in fairness
Uh, they've been getting higher attendances than you for years. Because they have bigger floating fanbases, meaning if they're achieving roughly the same results as yourselves they can be expected to hit higher numbers on account of their being more blow-ins.
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Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Wind yourself in. There's no anti-Athlone agenda. As I've explained to you before, I lived in Athlone for two years and regularly visited Lissywollen. I've always had a fondness for Athlone and you seem to be the only one with the agenda.
I'll happily eat my words if Athlone reach 800-1000 regularly for games, but it's just not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Exactly what CD has said here. Take a bit of a reality check before posting next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
So Nigel you think if we are still fighting for the league our crowds wont get bigger haha
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Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
As far as i can see he has not said that anywhere.
Nobody said that. What I'm saying and I assume Nigel is too, is that Athlone's crowds won't grow to the same size as Waterford or Finn Harps' all things being equal, because the latter are just bigger clubs. If Harps were bottom and Athlone top, sure, Athlone would get bigger gates but if they're both on similar form and similar points, you'd expect the bigger club to have bigger gates.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Can i ask in what way are Finn Harps a bigger club than Athlone haha They have 1 First Division Title and one Fai cup in their history.
There were ad's all week on LMFM & DundalkFM(Always just after the sports news,there could have been more? but i only listen to the sports news).The Dundalk Democrat had four pages of reports/articles on DundalkFC last week(Indirect advertising imo)Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
The F/B pages and Twitter pages also encouraged people to download the online poster and to put it up at work or in the "local" .
IMO, everyone that needed to know that there was a LOI match in OP on Friday knew that there was a LOI match in OP on Friday !
Interesting choice of words Bullit in needed to know. Everyone needs to know of course, people who are regular supporters will already know so trying to pick up floating customers like visitors to the town, those in the hinterland eg Carrick is the difference between 1800 and over 2000. There is too much focus on preaching to the already converted imo. It is regularily asked of us up town after a match what the score was followed by who were we playing, so the message is falling short somewhere. Those roadside signs going in and out of every major route in town were a great job in the past assuming they are updated first thing on the saturday with the following home fixture! There are times when you can be sure that the town knows that there is a big night in Oriel and feel the buzz, 1st European match couple of years ago and cup semi 2002 are standouts where even non Dundalk based family were seeking info and tickets
All football fans (armchair, floating fans etc...) know the LOI is generally always Fri nightsQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Everyone who wants to go to Oriel will in my opinion find out when the next home game is on IMO
All the advertising in the world wont change that
Thats fair enough, people who want to go will make it their business to find out. Some though need it under their noses to notice and with lapsed or disillusioned fans decent match advertisment give a better impression than past days and give an incentive or curiosity to tip back up to Oriel to see how things are going and with current levels of positivity throughout the place they may turn regulars again.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
I do recognise that there limitations or no quick fixes.
to be honest clubs do need to advertise matches more and where their ground is. i also think it shud be advertised how much it is into games. the fai have a lot to answer for. we played bluebell in cup and they tried to charge us 15e to get in. kids and all. and I don't think u shud have pay 10e into salthill r mervue as neither have a stand r seat in their grounds. ooo I do reckon athlone will keep getting about 600 mark. but it don't help when away teams r not bringing fans to matches. kills atmosphere
People have so much more choices these days and its always going to be a hard sell for all LOI clubs. Also all of our home matches for e.g. are live on the radio, there are twitter updates every 5 mins, other internet updates, all great information sources, but also easy for people not to go.
Our crowds are not bad for our position, they'll probably increase a little if we maintain our good form, Rovers and Sligo visiting next month are always good attractions, but as ever people will find excuses not to go to some games, thats just the way it is these days.
In saying that, I think the club should be reasonably happy with the crowds so far.
You're just making yourself look very silly now and you're not even worth the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
Everyone knows Athlone have the biggest hypothetical attendances in the league, stop being bitter lads.
Very good Bosco, but no, We just have the biggest attendances in the league....
This whole exercise does rather strike me as a good number of bald men fighting over a comb...
And more fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ATFC-1887
This is like Ray Darcy always arguing over his height. He's a shortarse and Athlone, Finn Harps, Longford are all small clubs with small attendances. Get over it.