For all of the rather poor quality and lack of variety, at least the First Division has a run-in worth talking about, which is more than a lot of people expected.
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I only have enough ammo for one game though.
No but what I meant was that for only a handful of clubs has this season actually really had anything special. A lot of the Premier clubs have been in mid-table for virtually the whole season - Bohs, Shels, Bray, Cork and Derry. There are 4 clubs who have been in the title race but going by crowds it doesn't look as if anyone was jumping on the bandwagon at Pat's and Drogheda as it's looked from a long way out that Sligo were going to win the league.
At the other end UCD and Dundalk were in their own battle to avoid the playoff (Bray slipping in to it now) but when there's even a doubt over whether the playoff will happen it's hard too get too excited about it.
In Division 1 the top 3 have been away for the whole season - so outside of those the other teams have been playing out the season and presumably building for the future.
So we should go for a 16 team league then?
id say a season where 1/3rd of the league are in the running of the title for a large part of the season is pretty decent. Simiarly, to have three out of 8 teams (37.5%) in with a shout for the title with just a few weeks remaining is a fairly exciting season.
It would be absolutely fantastic if he turned up at Tolka and started telling people what to do.
1,115 Drogs V Pats replay.
Have to say I'm delighted with our attendances this season given that 5th is the highest we've been all season and the highest we can realistically finish.
I think if we push on and can challenge for the top 3 next season the crowds should go up again.
I think for the league it would be fantastic to see Cork push for title honours next season.
With Cork, Shamrock Rovers, and Sligo all hitting attendances over 3000/4000 each game it can only make the game here healthier.
Imagine seeing regular crowds over 4000 in Turners Cross each week. That would be fantastic.
Athlone Town vs Mervue United 110 (Official)
Any of the Limerick folk able to tell us how many were in Terryland. It would be be great to see Cork up near the top of the league as it would draw great crowds to their games home and away.
Anywhere between one and two hundred kinda hard to see from where i was and wasnt arsed counting.
Absolutely no exaggeration to say at least 90% of the crowd were Limerick, we got less support at home games in Pike!
1135 in Dalymount, about 50/60 Cork fans.
Good match with each side dominating in one half and getting pumelled in the other. Another atrocious Robbery Rogers performance in the middle.
Check out Mc Millan`s goal of the month on MNS.
567 at Waterford United v Longford Town from extratime.ie
I wouldn't expect a massive increase personally. If we've averaged 600+ this year I think somewhere in around 900ish might be as good as it gets in a first year up (an increase of 50% to be fair which is not to be sniffed at). Two factors which could impact on that figure will be how we do (obviously) and where we're playing. If we are back in the Market's Field we'd be higher I think, particularly in the first few games. At that point I think a lot of it would come down to results. If we were to stay up I could see bigger crowds, after all the years in the doldrums the club will have to prove to the general sporting public in the city that they're the real deal so to speak.
3,120 at the EA Sports Cup Final
Averages after week 26. Threw in Stu's old figures from previous seasons overall average attendances for comparison. Premier Division attendances are up in general, but the First Division is a sorry read.
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 1488 (2011 - 1,488; 2010- 1,835; 2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 929 (1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 2764 (2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1492 (2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 984 (811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1037 (1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Pat's - 1543 (1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3450 (3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1237 (781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2486 (2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 523 (558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 283 (200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Harps - 419 (433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Limerick - 673 (569; 598; 429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 372 (315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 247 (349; 123; 166)
SD Galway - 189 (125; 122 - As Salthill Devon FC)
Waterford - 447 (466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 320 (216; 343; 494; 767; 810)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 1630 (1,547, 1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 369 (578, 682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1100 (1,110, 1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)
A lot depends on where we're playing and how we're playing!
I'd say you'll roughly be looking at the following:
1200-1500 games: Sligo, Shamrock, Cork.
800-1200 games: Bohs, Pats, Derry.
500-800 games: Bray, UCD.
Outside Shamrock and Sligo does anyone in the Premier bring crowds anymore?? Obviusly Cork would bring a lot to Limerick.
The big factor will be form. We can have all the top tier games we want, but if we're losing most of them the crowds will stop turning up. Just like Mons.
Well, relatively speaking.
It was mentioned here that half of those were Drogs fans, was that actually the case?
Exactly, if we can hit the ground running with good results the crowds will be strong. As usual though Irish sports fans are very very fickle. The Markets Field will have a big part to play in drawing the crowds also, if the club fail to deliver on that promise it will bring back a lot of negativity towards the club and crowds will deteriorate.
233 at Wexford Youths v Finn Harps
718 at Limerick Athlone
Great atmosphere too, one of the best all season. Wonder how many will turn up in two weeks for the last game? Regardless of what happens between now and then, Limerick will go into it looking to get a trophy.
4083 in the Showgies, only 50 or so from Derry.
550 extratime estimate in Finn Park tonight. I'd say that's about right. About 10 or 15 Waterford fans up. Fair played to them.
The drop in 1st Division averages can be put down to some concrete factors - 1. continued economic doom and gloom, 2. Lack of "name" clubs with good following, 3. Lopsided nature of team numbers and matches, 4. Belief from before the season that it was going to be a 1 team league.
It does give a little bit of credence to a single league set up, lots of those 1st Division clubs would get bumper crowds and the benefits related to this. But then, what else will be done?
Any figure for the UCD v Bohs game on Friday night?