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Would have to disagree with you Littleman the aul managers job is easy compare to effort and time that goes into running a team for a season. The clubs do all the work and he picks the best, how hard that be......Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
A nice warm up for the second AOH cup semi-final tonight! Finished Glenthorn 3-2 Blarney Street. Only watched the first 30 minutes as I had to head to work. At this point Glenthorn were 2-1 up . Quite different sides from what would be expected to start on Friday night for both sides! Quite a few players trying to stake a claim for a starting position next Friday!! It should be a cracker! Never a dull game between these sides so far this season
Lads,
The AUL indicated at the Xmas meeting that the fines were too much and they will be reducing them. It doesnt help the money we have already paid out. What about looking for a reduction in the registration fees for next season?
They also said they couldnt change the rules mid season. The government realised they needed a second budget, so they did it. Do we need to ensure a rule change that we can change things mid season if necessary?
Couldnt agree with you more there horse.For me its not that they cant change the rules as your excellent point about the government proved its more of they perfer that any changes are at the agm an then they have a season to see if they are good or bad,,,,,,,at the clubs an players cost I may add ?
My own opinion (an I can almost hear the gasps in certain corners because I've said what I think:p) is that as soon as the new budget came on board then the yellow card fines should have been done away with an repalaced with just 3 yellows equals a missed game.It in all fairness is an still in the future could be an excellent way of keepin players in line(5euro a yellow) but with the way the recession is makin every penny count its an unfair penalty for what most would view as their 90 mins away from the everyday problems they hav so all in all a bit ill timed.
The reds fine too could be reduced in line with the recession,its 30 for a red depending on the severity,70 if you diont show at the meeting.I personally know of 2 lads who have jacked in playin this year because they couldnt afford to pay the 70 as their out of work.They should have gone to the meetin I know but they didnt an whos left to foot the bill,the club again.
Horse when your on the Aul commitee please sort all this out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,;)
Sham,my comment with regards to the Aul job ,please try to understand the context in which I meant it,its only 6 games encluding final an add maybe 3 to 5 friendlies an thats all he has to work with , not a season.The back round work that needs to be done for that amount of games is huge.Tis at another level all together than league management .Finding out the opposition,knowing how they play,who plays 1 to 11,left leg right leg,weak point strong points of the opposition.Maybe we could all learn from how the Aul approached things this season.Aint as simple as just turnin up an playin,as a wise man once said ,a Cork man I think too "fail to prepare an prepare to fail".
As for the clubs do all the work an he picks the players,I've seen the entire squad bar one player this season an for the most part a lot of um played a lot better for the Aul than they did with their clubs but again that is just my own opinion.Its a squad of excellent talent but it has to be made into a unit an click so to speak in a very short space of time.Thats down to the man ,not the club.The proof is in the puddin,tis 43 years since we won it,a lot of great managers an great players couldnt get near it,but hes won it an nobody can take it away from him.
Wow looking at premier fixtures it could all be done and dusted before you'd notice: the Thurs 30th -- Sunday 3rd are down as provisional...
Sat 25th
Grattan Utd v Leeside
Park Utd v Kinsale
Tues 28th
Leeside v Blarney St Athletic
Glenthorn Cel v Park Utd
Grattan Utd v Kinsale
Thurs 30th
Kinsale v Glenthorn Cel
Park Utd v Blarney St Ath
Wilton Utd v Leeside
Sat 2nd
Blarney St Ath v Park Utd
Glenthorn Cel v Wilton Utd
Sunday 3rd
Coachford v Kinsale
Absolutely fcukin ridiculous if that is true. Horse the sooner you get on that AUL committee the better. We've had no evening game for the last 2 weeks and then we're supposed to play 4 games in 7 or 8 days or whatever it is?! Wat a joke.
I hope they are not for definate. :mad:
I know seems to happen every season... Happened us 2 years ago where we played 12 games in 30 or so days. We looked at it and had on average two days rest between each game... Then suddenly we were finished and there were teams left with 2-3 games to play...Quote:
Originally Posted by bogwarrior
Should also add Glenthorn play Blarney St in AOH cup semi on Fri 24th So they'd have 4 in 7/8 days as well. And then Wilton who haven't had a game in a while get given 2 games Thurs and Sat... Madness...
I know teams have games to play and there is some pressure on but the main games with date deadlines can only be the cups as the finals are probably fixed for the cross.
Ah come on lads - ye have to love this time of year! We have 4 games in 10 days - 3 of which are away!
We have 5 games from Sunday last until next Tuesday. I think its wrong because we were promised only Tuesdays, and its hard enough for guys to rush and go without a meal one night of the week.
I understand the fixtures secretary is unwell, and he is an old friend of Blackstone having letting us share their pitch, so I hope he gets better soon. Health is more important than football.
We are in an off year as regards major championship so what is the big rush? The point could be made that the AUL board need a break too, and that is understandable, but we still have 6 weeks until the end of May. We played the June weekend last year.
I just noticed Mayfield are away to WGHill on some midweek day next week. That will be tough for the Mayfield lads. I know Watergrasshill are in a few cups, but we should try and avoid fixtures like that.
Thanks for the election votes lads, but I wont be going for the AUL committee soon!! We all fall into the easy trap of blaming them for everything, but, who will do it if they dont?
We had a referee recently, who has dis-improved unbelievably over the last 12 months. We won the game he reffed us in, but, he was really poor. I dont know why - is his motivation gone?
I saw a guy ref a schoolboys game recently, and he gave the throw the other way because they were too slow in taking it. I dont think thats a rule so I asked a ref about him. I was told he doesnt go to the meetings and is quoted as saying "I am only in it for the money". I know we are stuck for refs, but are we that stuck?
If ye get the chance over the next few weeks, ye must go see and Under 7's game. I saw 10 minutes of one last week, and it was the funniest thing ever. Two players chatting as the game went past them, another fella ran over to the sideline as the opposition came towards him to show his mother his dirty hands from his fall. It was brilliant.
The best bit was when one team got a free, and the whole team ran to the manager asking to take it. The guy who eventually took it made such a long run up that he was knackered when he finally kicked the ball. Real Football!!!
Just heard we beat Leeside B 5-1.....unbeaten in the last 7 league games!! Back to my old gripe of why cant two teams go up from every division. Instead of just Greenwood, there would be 6 teams in our division with something to play for. There has to be some way to fix it!!
What is the rush in finishing the seaason so soon and cramming all the games in together... agree with horse best wishes to tony chambers and hopefully we will see him soon..
well lads our season comes down to tomorrow night and i dont think we could have asked for tougher opponents in the semis of the AOH.. we have now played glenthorn 3 times in last 2 weeks and there has not been a kick of the ball between both teams..altough they did beat us on tue night but i dont think either team was anything like they will be tomorrow night..few injuries going in to the game and only tue night gary coughlan done his ankle so things could be better.. in fact the last week has seen our coffers take a serios hit with physio but it will be all worth it if we come thru.. hopefully the game will continue along the same pattern as the last few only this time we might come out on top!!!!..based on the last 3 meetings you cant rule out extra time or pens either.. saing that id settle for a sloppy boring one nil... cant see it happening tho
Sorry Horse have to disagree with you for once - Mayfield away to Watergrasshill isnt so bad - same side of the city at least - well general region - its when a team has to cross from northside to southside that the problems occur or to far flung places like Mallow, Michelstown etc for midweek games
Seriously I cant understand people having a whinge about having loads of fixtures towards the end of the season - that just means usually that teams did well in the cups so the solution is in ye're own hands lads - Get knocked out in the first round!!!
well lads its been a long while since my last post. after been sent to Kosovo with work for my sins!!! Been talking to Streetscene alot over the last 48hrs by other means:p Tomorrow night promises to be a geniune northside derby. what i would give to be involved havent played any of the games against Glenthorn this year and was lokking forward to playing against a few mates. ill be glued to the phone tomorrow night hoping a few mates text on what is happening and hopefully a Street win.
4 games in 8 days ola?! Have we not got every right to complain?! It's ridiculous to think that a team who have done well all season and have gone far in all cup competitions gets punished for doing so. It's a handicap if you will, we're being forced to carry an extra few pounds!! (no comments please)! Injuries and fatigue will set in that wouldn't of happened otherwise were they asked to play only two games a week. Now I know that other teams are in a similar situation, but the what gets me is that we've had two free midweeks these past few weeks...cudnt someone have said, hang on a minute? Why don't we give Kinsale a game this week to lighten the fixture load towards the end of the season?? Perhaps give them a game against Glenthorn to break up the glenthorn/blarney st run of games??!? Or god forbid ask Wilton to play a game in April??!! But no.
In fairness they tried doing it differently by bringing the mossy until after christmas but this obviously hasn't worked. Change it to knock out next year lads for the love of god!!
We have a game every tuesday thursday and sunday for a month solid, how bad!!! /still have 9 left after 2 weeks of 3 games a week
Innishvilla's stint as a 1st division side is virtually at an end. Innishvilla lost last night to their nearest rivals in a true 6 pointer... After a disappointing season in an extremely competitive league, must be said I've been to and played a couple of games for them and I must say Division 1 from top to bottom is really close (evident when 2 weeks ago any one of 6 could still win the 1 promotion spot). But as they say tables never lie... Mathematically not gone yet but need 2 huge results against the two sides battling for the title (Greenmount and Pearce).
Only bright spot is the semi-final 2nd leg of County Cup this weekend but we'll have to play a damn site better than the first leg where we handed them 3 goals on a plate...
The hope had been to keep the club in the 1st Div as there is a really strong underage structure in place and we are only now just beginning to see the outcome of this. With a really strong showing from our youths, and our U14's and U13's look likely to be playing premier football next season...
I have to agree with you bogwarrior.Its a joke the way they given so many games together at this stage.There's been so many weeks that teams have had free to play,it's beyond me why they wait until now!!.Have you noticed they seem to be holding off yourselves an wilton for the last game of the season interesting!!!.By looking at the games the season could be wrapped up by sunday week!.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogwarrior
Sorry lads again i have to disagree - of course the AUL will keep the big games til the end of the season - they try not to have things wrapped up too early to make things exciting
Nothing wrong with holding big games until the end to make things exciting, but any team that has to play 4 games in 7 or 8 days is at an unfair disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by olachico
Kinsale by May 1 will have only to play 4 league games and 2 cup games (AOH Final and Mossie Semi) by the end of May. This could easily be achieved by playing 1 game every weekend and 2 midweek games on different weeks. If Kinsale are lucky enough to beat Macroom in the Mossie Semi then that final is on 3rd June.
No problems with that schedule - what's the rush in finishing everything in 2 weeks.
If anybody says - that's the way it always was - then I say, the way it always was is sh*t and needs changing to stop our best players voting with their feet - and transfering to MSL clubs!!!
No MSL club would be forced to play so many games in such a short space of time.
I agree with keeping the big games until the end of the season i'm just saying why run the league off in a couple of weeks,doesn't stand to reason!!.I think glenthorn are probably the biggest losers in all this but at the same time how come they went so long without a game all season does anyone know.With kinsale it's no fault of their own,maybe next season they shouldn't play so well!!!!!!!.Quote:
Originally Posted by olachico
Victims of our own success I suppose but after working so hard all year in all competitions it's a terrible way to end it. Absolute madness on behalf of the AUL.
In regard to your underage structure Innish i have been meaning to ask you about that? You seem to be very strong altogether. When did you decide to focus on this? It really has gone from strength to strength and several clubs would do well to look at the progress ye have made.
Yeah a few year ago a couple of guys got together and put an U12 team into the West Cork League. It was quite a strong side and they did quite well it kind of kicked off from there, combined with the fact that the first really structured soccer team from Innishannon when the club won the Presidents Cup with a group of guys committed to the club, well a large proportion of those guys now have kids playing and they themselves are really getting involved. Off the top of my head I can think of at least 8 guys involved with that team that are all still very involved with the club from underage coaching to committee members.Quote:
Originally Posted by bogwarrior
It kicked off from there, Knockavilla were also trying to run an underage team but were struggling so the two combined to form Innishvilla (they refused at Junior level). Now with the new pitches (undergoing extra drainage work at the moment) the juvenile section is booming. But the credit, as with almost all clubs, is down to a few very dedicated members and in all fairness an ever expanding group running the underage clubs...
Got to see the semi last night, Glenthoran very strong in the first half, but ran out of steam in the second half that must be down to the amount of games they played in the last few weeks. Blarney Street should of won it in normal time had two great chances.
Firstly I was delighted to see them win the Oscar Traynor. Littleman your trying to make out that it was run like a professional outlet when it was far from it. They never practiced corners never practiced free kicks. Handing out Roscommon echo to the players does not make this a different level. I know your minty's number one fan and there's nothing wrong with that but making him out to be Alex Ferguson is a bit much.Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
How'd the game go last nite does anyone know? Any match report?
Kinsale v Park is off today.
Was Dereck Varian playing for the Irish team during the week? If so it looks like he got on the score sheet against a seria C team in Italy
Don't think so Billy ? This is off the fai.ie site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billynomates
Wed. 22nd April 2009
Calinganis 1-5 Republic of Ireland Gerry Smith's Irish Amateurs won the first of their two test matches with a 5-1 win over Calinganis in Sardinia on Tuesday. Dean Kelly produced an excellent second half display with four well taken goals against an Italian defence that held the Amateur team to a 0-0 scoreline at half time.
Calinganis 1 - 5 Republic of Ireland Amateurs
Dean Kelly (4)
David Donogoe
Republic of Ireland Amateur: Adrian Walsh (Carrick Utd), John Carroll (St. Kevins Boys), Wayne Byrne (Dublin Bus), Paul McCabe (Crumlin Utd), Adam Mitchell (Bangor Celtic), Daniel Loughran (Crumlin Utd), David Donohoe (St. Peters FC), Laurence Dunne (Bangor Celtic), Dean Kelly (Tolka Rvs), David Welsh (Avondale Utd), Declan O'Connell (Douglas Hall FC)
Subs: All not used.
I got this from the fai site
Gerry Smith's side, who were drawn alongside Spain, Bosnia and Belgium in the draw in Zagreb yesterday, were once again in impressive form after their 5-1 win over Tuesday evening against Calinganus. The Amateurs ran out three-nil winners against Serie C side Olmedo with another highly impressive performance with Derek Varian's 38th minute goal being sandwiched by Molloy's second minute strike and a well executed 81st minute effort which killed the game as a contest.
REP IRELAND: Brendan O'Connell; Conor Dillon, Adam Mitchell, Ciaran Kenna, James Walsh (capt), Geoff Doyle, Ray Whelehan, Derek Varian, David Lacey, Peter Sherlock, William Molloy. Subs: David Walsh for Sherlock (81mins).
This was played tuesday night.
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...k=view&id=4231
I stand corrected Billy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billynomates
Played against Mr. Varian a couple of times this year and without doubt he's different class.
Congrats Innish on a great result today to set up a mouth watering tie with Watergrasshill..
On this site with the majority of members involved with the Premier teams, We sometimes fail to mention ye. But fair play it looks like ye are progressing in the right track. Good Luck in the final.
Also have to mention the Street on their victory.
After beating Kinsale in the MJC. Im sure Shilts and Bog will be out for some revenge .. Could be interesting ...
Casilles,
Hope you make it home for the final. These big days out dont come around too often . It would be a shame to miss out. Work or the AOH. Final. There's only one winner there ;)
Cheers Junglegym,Quote:
Originally Posted by junglegym
Yeah it is a bit of a relief for the club... It has been a tough season for the juniors.
We just didn't perform in the 1st leg when we handed them 3 goals in a 3:1 defeat... Yesterday the team played excellently. Really stretched them all over, making use of a good big pitch that had held up well to some seriously heavy rain. 0:0 at half time, but the lads didn't panic, could and should have had it wrapped up before full time, especially when our full back hit a screamer from 30 yards when a ball broke from a corner, only for it to pretty much take the head off our captain as he tried to get out of the way.
Again should/could have won it in extra time but credit to Watergrasshill they kept fighting all the way.
The penalties were seriously intense. We were up 1st. We missed our 2nd (saved), they missed their 3rd (saved) and then both sides produced a master class in penalty taking both scoring 13 penalties in a row, I honestly think a special mention to the quality of the 'hill peno's we have a top class keeper, each of their kicks were sudden death, miss and you loose, to score five of those... Unfortunately there had to be a looser and the unlucky keeper from the visitors (kick taker no 10) saw his saved and Innishvilla were through to only their 2nd ever trip to the Cross... Won their only other cup there in 1997 after beating Maymount Celtic in the Presidents Cup.
Revenge is a very harsh word junglegym haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by junglegym
Blarney Street are having a very good season and will probably be favorites for the final seeing as they have beat us twice already, MJC and League, and have now put out a hotly fancied Glenthorn side. We'll have to improve a lot, and get a few breaks, if we are to retain the AOH Cup.
Ha nice try shilts but your fooling no one up here.. we just suffered our biggest defeat of the season to ye(5-1) and are up against the reigning champions who happen to have just the two internationals in their side.. How in the name of god could we be favourites!!!! certainly not in our eyes anyway...nice try sir alex.....
Have to admit I though it was a bit Sir Alex as well. No disrespect to the street, they've been great this year and deserve to be in the final, but Kinsale have to go into it as slight favourites...Quote:
Originally Posted by streetscene
Glad you had that medal around your neck Littleman sounds like you definately desreved it!!!! If you have something to say to me post it like eveyone else unless you think your facts are wrong....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shilts
Junglegym my friend what i would give to be there. But there is a big differance from not going to work in lets say Sherring Plough and going AWOL in Kosovo!!!!:D Apples is a fine keeper and from what I hear made a tremendous save to win it for us on Friday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Innishvilla
The Favourites tag
Kinsale 5 Premier leagues on the trot and current holders of the AOH in the running for league honours this year
Blarney St Ath R-Up In Premier A last year Mid Table at the moment.
Mr Cashman certanily wouldnt be employing you Shilts to make out his odds:eek:
Over 3 weeks to go to the final and a lot can happen between then and now. Hopefully both will have full squads to choose from, it will be an entertaing game and a Street win:p
well cas whats the weather like,will ya be able to get time off for the final,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,tell forda an johnny the gratts said hello:D
Look sham,you posted a couple of things that were lets just say you were mis informed.I told you exactly how prepared the team was before the game in the hope that you might think that you were mis in formed,what you choose to belive i couldnt care less.
Your other comments today,well you do have a valid point.I didnt kick a ball,didnt tog off so maybe I shouldnt have got a medal, so I'll tell ya exactly what I did an then you can make your own mind up.
I watched the group games like everyone else an was only asked about team affairs solely to do with the Grattan players which were on the squad an some of the players from the other teams in Norrieland.It was only when we beat Limerick an had to play Wexford was I asked to help out in gaining any info on the opposition again because the manager knew I had good contacts around the country an forgive me but I think it makes perfect sense..Which I did an the management got plenty of it.We won that game an again I was asked to try to gain some info on the Roscommon team which I again did.We then had unbeliveable trouble with tryin to rent out an all weather facility to enable us play a warm up game.The Aul could do no more because honestly all the pitchs were booked.
I knew the Mayfield manager an was able to talk him into agreeing to play us insted of there usual training session.They kindly allowed us 2 sessions of there own training time for games.I was then asked by the manager to travel to Roscommon but the Friday before we left I was told that the Aul commitee had a slight problem with me travelin so I didnt bother an said no more.We then beat Roscommon an I was again contacted by the manager to again start to pull out all the stops to get as much info on the Dubs as possible.We played Avondale in Blarneys grass pitch,the manager arranged the opposition an I managed by some miracle to get the pitch.Not the Aul.
I didnt expect to travel to Wexford for the final but I was asked to go,I went an on the official match programe I was listed as team co-ordinatior.I didnt do that the Aul an the manager did it .I recived the same award as the rest of the panel in the Kiln,again I didnt play or tog off,what I did for the win was done off the pitch.I'm happy with my contribution an if your not then thats up to your self.
Fair play littleman. I ddnt know you were that involved in the organising of things. The prep and getting info is a vital part of the management process and should not be underestimated. :ball:
Will you be there tonight littleman?! The next 5 days will decide our season. Gratts tonight is the toughest away fixture out there. Fingers crossed.
Weather is good working on an all round tan!!! doesnt look good for getting home, enquirying but those are the joys of been over here. Was talking to Johnny Mac alright during the week, semi of the Mossie ? happy with that, the way the season has gone? { an i aint winding ya up this time} still involved at this time of year is a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
Ill pass on your hellos to Graham "not playin soccer for 6 months over here" Forde the winge and to Johnny Torres!!:D
The mossie is a bonus alright but its only a bonus if we reach the final.Ballyvolane have knocked us out of the Fai in the 1st round which must rank as the shock of the season,on a par with the other 2 so called shocks Glenvale in the Aoh an Buttervant in the Mjc so we dont exactly have much form this season.We seem to be improvin but I think speakin honestly we are very dissapointed on how its gone for us this season.
Tis a right balls not bein able to get back for the Aoh,especially as its yer first,ye have just as much of a chance as kinsale though an their should be a great crowd.Again tell the lads we were askin for them an stay safe out there.