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Originally Posted by JR89
I still think Mick McCarthy should have been allowed see out his fixtures. We were starting to get some performances going under him. Switzerland and Denmark were solid performances under McCarthy.
Then Kenny took over and the sh!tshow began. Beaten by Luxembourg etc
I dont think so, and I think he would have gotten similar results while stubbornly persisting with the likes of Randolph, Jeff Hendrick, Long, Hourihane and others who were way past their sell by date. I think we'd be in a position now similar to when McCarthy took over from Jack where it was a aging squad, that had to be rebuilt completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
One of my biggest criticisms of Kenny in the end was that he lost the courage of his conviction and went back to Duffy and McClean instead of continuing to blood younger players. It didnt help with results and I thought it showed he lost his bottle.
The new manager coming in now has a squad with the average age of about 23 and a lot of a caps. That can only be a positive going forward. My personal opinion is that I dont think we'd have been in a similar situation had Keane taken over instead of Kenny.
Shay Given on RTE more or less confirming it's not going to be Carsley this time, but that he may be interested in the future. Gave the impression he'd spoken to him and didn't want to say anymore.
Shay saying it's his understanding its not Carsley... is that from talking to Carsley or from reading the Daily Mail. It didn't sound like he's in the know when he started listing the others linked.
https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/...wWytS6_SA&s=19
Rabbit from Hat time !
This whole process is an absolute shambles.
Where are the leaks FFS!
Once again with the fai we lie down with clowns and we wake up with a red nose
foot.ie is a form of social media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I suppose Roy Keane would be a Money Generator until it all goes wrong, but maybe ( definitely ) the FAI would be happy to make money !
Ah ~ Things are desperate !
I originally thought John Eustace would have been a good choice but he was eventually snapped up by Blackburn. Then there seemed to be some hope of Carsley taking the job but alas that ship seems to have sailed. What are we left with, Lennon, Roy Keane, Chris Haughton, not really inspiring.
What would people think of Robbie Keane. He seems to have made a great start in Israel and might be happy to leave that troubled part of the world.
Looking like Plan B - Lennon. Unless something incredible happens.
Hopefully they hold off as long as possible. Not looking forward to the weeks of whinging once he's confirmed.
Let the whinging begin, this is our lead candidateQuote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Neil Lennon drunk (youtube.com)
Starting to think the delay is about convincing people within FAI higher echelons to get onboard with Lennon. It would be a disaster. I'm just imagining press asking every player about his personal life and if they're comfortable playing for him.
Aside from him not being an especially great manager of course.
Meh. Let her who is without sin cast the first stone. I've seen plenty of Irish fans drunk when abroad for games. I've been been drunk when abroad for games (if not that drunk)Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Social media makes people think they have a right to film famous people at it and shout abuse at them. **** that.
There may be many reasons why Lennon wouldn't be a good choice, but I don't think that's one
No one could have done worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Reading between the lines it seems like the FAI are prepared to pay a full time wage for a full time appointment, or a part time wage for a part time appointment, but not a full time wage for a guy who wants to fly in and out around fixtures. I imagine Kenny was around Abbotstown and around the country and was seen to be doing the job in a different way from his predecessors who weren’t in the country between international windows.
I find it hard to argue that point. Carsley’s family situation probably makes relocating to Ireland impossible, and what the FAI view as being a fair wage for a part timer is likely significantly less than he could expect to attract in England.
It's a classic stand off really. I don’t think anyone is really in the wrong. Perhaps Lennon is the most qualified candidate prepared to relocate to this side of the Irish Sea (much easier for a guy who’s originally from Lurgan tbf). But the fact’s are that Lennon’s baggage makes him completely unsuitable.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/neil...-knife-7043869
How in the name of God can he go and sit on the couch on the Late Late and expect this not to come up? No serious football association in western Europe can appoint someone to the most senior coaching role in their country with that sort of past. The inevitable reaction would make his appointment impossible to sustain even if they do foolishly go for it. The questions simply won't end until he resigns.
If the FAI want someone who will relocate to this island to take the job, that’s not necessarily a bad idea. But they might have to get a little imaginative in casting their net than looking at who’s doing the rounds as occasional pundits on TV. Celtic didn’t find Ange Postecoglou sitting on a Sky Sports sofa.
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Originally Posted by pineapple stu
its one of the biggest jobs in Irish sport. Give us a break , we just need a pro, a real professional, a guy who can lead on and off the pitch, not a ****ed bully, who threaten to slit a women throat
we have had enough torture over the last few years. That clip is of some who has issues and not like you in faired of someone on a night out wit the boys. They don't look like his mates in the clip
Ah ****** to that. This sanctimonious guff of "Famous person can't get ****ed" doesn't hold any water for me.
The bully and the knife stuff wasn't in the clip you shared.
We all lose our minds when someone says Carsley is in or out. Clearly things haven't gone as smoothly as the FAI would have liked but until I hear something officially from Carsley or the FAI I won't believe he's in or out. If Kilbane says something I'll be more concerned than Shay saying it.
Kilbane had a throwaway bit at the end of his article a couple weeks ago about Kerr and that he should be involved. No one has said anything about it since, including Kerr. He's been surprisingly quiet... all this delay couldn't be for Carsley trying to get Kerr on his staff could it???
But you're aware of the knife incident? But you have decided to give him the benefit of the doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Fine that's you. I wasn't born yesterday and I know a problem when I see it.
I mentioned nothing about the knife incident because my post was in response to yours, which was purely a video of the guy drunk, with the caption "Neil Lennon drunk". There was nothing else in your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I don't care about a guy being drunk. Brian Clough was one of the finest managers in the English game and was drunk for half of it.
That doesn't mean you can assume my views on other issues though.
If Lennon having had too much to drink was the worst thing he's done, then I wouldn't have much issue with it, or it being a reason not to appoint him.
But it isn't.
A made up story by a woman scorned that was never reported to the cops, just spread about the tabloids. Why would anyone question that? IF it had really happened he'd have been arrested and questioned at the very least. Don't believe everything you read in tabloids.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Neil Lennon would be forced out of the job within 6 months of being appointed by the uproar his appointment would cause. There are significant character issues with him and plenty of stories would get out.
There is Zero chance the FAI will risk the government funding they are fighting for by appointing him.
I heard from a mate that Scott Parker has gone to short odds from 40/1
Whats the worst thing he's done>Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I don't know how much of the story is true. On one hand trouble has followed him everywhere he's gone. On the other hand the Scottish tabloids are absolute scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
But in a way for the FAI it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. Elements of the media will be incredibly hostile because he's a Nordie, as will elements of the political classes.
He'll be asked the same questions either way. And answering them once won't stop them. The woman who made the accusations will be brought over to give her side of the story. She'll do the Late Late where she'll say enough for the news to carry the clip over the weekend. There'll be an interview in the SIndo and all that will set up a week long circus on Joe Duffy.
The videos of him that were posted above will be everywhere. Stories will come out of Lurgan about one thing and another that have happened there down through the years. A TD looking for some attention will start asking questions about how much of the funding the FAI receive from the taxpayers goes to fund his salary.
He won't last a week.
He would be foolish to take the job if it was offered ~ Because all of what you have said in that post will probably happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
And , why would the FAI open such a can of troubles ? !
Lennon would be mad not to take it. He'll be stood down after a week and appropriately compensated. Worst case scenario he gets 6 months wages and never has to do so much as lay out some cones.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Well Kerr on Virgin Media saying tonight that it seems Carsley not taking it, so there goes that theory! Kerr mentioned Stephen Bradley when coming up with people for the job so he obviously has no inside info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Im starting to believe its not Carsley now, in which case I think we are in deep sh1t.
I'd genuinely rather have Hodgson than Lennon or Keane. Hughton is a far from inspiring option, but we've surely reached a point where somebody offering basic competence and a large dose of integrity is about as good as we're likely to get.
Can't have Keane apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/kea...-bail-1.186559
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-30167555.html
Hodgson could be the ideal kick the can down the road candidate. There is very little out there at the moment. He has excellent experience in the game and he could work for the next campaign.
Dont see anything in there about him threatening a woman with knife since you are trying to be a smartar$e and making the comparison. You can talk about tabloids all you want but defending Lennon here speaks more to your own character than anything elseQuote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
If its not Carsley Id love us to take a punt on Brian Barry Murphy. Similar resume to Carsley, just few years behind. When theres no obvious stand out candidates for the criteria that Canham seems to have set out Barry Murphy ticks a lot of the boxes hes looking for.... but it might be more of a risk then they are willing to take after Kenny
I dont think a permanent presence in Ireland should be a pre-requisite for the role or that the salary should be deemed part-time if he is not in Ireland full time, if that is the sticking point. Define the job, the success criteria and then let the job get done. Establish reasonable travel expectations. Requiring a permanent presence in Ireland (or a salary penalty for not being permanently in Ireland) massively limits our candidate pool and doesn't really add any value (SK was full time in Ireland, so what?).Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
He's been rushed from the training ground to the hospital on the day he was supposed to be sacked... maybe he had a missed call from the FAI and it sent him over the edge. ;) wish him a speedy recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...medium=twitter
Fallon says we are being stalled by budget for staff
It does feel like this is the issue. I wonder if it's all related to the rumours regarding the sponsor and at that board meeting they had news regarding potential sponsorship which they were weighing up against the cost of Carsley and his backroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Nope, but actual charges, not just made up tabloid nonsense with no police reports, charges or anything beyond the waffling of a scorned woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
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Originally Posted by weldoninhio
Id say you get all the chicks!