Awful for Derry as well, no interest at all, and by all accounts the same at Linfield in a division he should have looked a rolls royce player.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Olly would need to be some motivator to get much from him.
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Awful for Derry as well, no interest at all, and by all accounts the same at Linfield in a division he should have looked a rolls royce player.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Olly would need to be some motivator to get much from him.
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Originally Posted by DCWA
Hasn’t played well in quite a while it seems,but we’re firmly in the punt game so we’ll have to hope he shows something!
Its obv not his style, but in my view Hery needs to get 'stuck in' more on play, any recent games I saw him in, he was almost waiting for the ball, did nothing that night we beat Linfield 6-0 either, games just seemed to bypass him.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Still very much worth a punt as he has talent, probably his confidence has slipped, no better than man that Ollie for that........
Waterford lads have any opinion on Adam O'Reilly? We've been linked with him this morning.
Regan Donelon signed with us ,last at Sligo.
Wish him well. A good Rovers servant over the years. Good signing for Harps if they can keep him fit and injury free, a very big if though.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
I never bought the hype. I remember when he burst on the scene there were plenty of Dundalk supporters wanted him signed. Anytime I saw him it was tidy but all backwards and sideways, certainly didn't like to mix itQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
any word on UCD signings or outgoings (other than doyle) ? or will the squad be the same as last seasons?
I had thought Kerrigan was due to move on, but maybe it'll be the summer.
I'll be quite happy if we have half a season having only lost Doyle! (And Weir, who left before the end of last season technically)
Presume at this stage the majority of the shopping is done? Five weeks until the first match of the season and clubs presumably in pre-season.
In terms of the European places, which seem the tightest, Dundalk had made some decent signings but then stopped before it became a decent squad really. Amond for Sligo probably would have kept them at last year's level but they seem to be missing a striker still. Doyle at Pat's is the coup of pre-season, probably more than Byrne to Rovers. And Bohs need a forward too - and actually Georgie Kelly is still available technically. Fair to say only Pat's haven't weakened?
thanks STU, hard to find out much on UCD until we see a friendly team sheet or something. is kerrigan finished his course or were u expecting him to leave on a normal transfer? himself and whelan were standouts in FD last year liked the look of brennan and keaney anytime i saw them too. are any due to be finishing up in the summer with their courses?
Whelan finishes in the summer. I thought Kerrigan was finished his course (he was linked with both Rovers) but maybe he's staying on till the summer. Keaney joined at the same time as Kerrigan but I think he's club captain this year so it looks like he's staying on. Evan Osam is our longest-serving player but he's a med student so that'd tie in. Mark Dignam, Luke Boore and Evan Farrell are the only three left from the Youth League game against Molde.
We're playing Cork on Tuesday apparently, so should know more then. Agree the lack of info is a pain in the wotsit alright.
Dundalk still have at least two more players to come, one of which is expected to be Mark Connolly.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/spor...eland-dundalk/
Player coming from Scottish second tier loan spell isn't hugely exciting on paper, is it?
I thought he was older than 30 tbf, there's probably something left in the tank.
Probably not, but he is contracted with Dundee Utd (SPL) to June 2022, but I take your point. Although they are joint bottom of second tier he does look to be one of their better performers still, played yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
I’d heard Kerrigan was still there till July alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I try not to put too much stock in what players have previously done. Some come with big expectations and are rubbish and some with no fanfare and are hidden gems. It’s best to judge a player on what they do for your club.Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
Obviously final judgement will be based on how a player performs after they arrive. Gary Twigg would be a player who definitely came in and exceeded his previous history. But a big part of football transfers is literally putting stock in a player's past performances and using that to predict their effectiveness. That's why Pats big incoming striker is coming in so hyped. Should Mark Connolly easily nullify Doyle when the sides me I'll raise a metaphorical glass and a wry shrug of my shoulders for you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Derry are stronger....Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
How would you rate Whelan and Kerrigan stu against the likes of Kelly, O'Neill, Farrugia etc? I haven't seen them much.
Derry are definitely stronger - I was only looking at the battle for third though, and I think it'll be Rovers/Derry 1/2 this year.
Hard to rate those players as they're different styles to an extent. I think they can both go as far as the guys you mention. But Whelan and Kerrigan can both run at the heart of a defence and cause panic in a way the others couldn't (I guess I'm distinguishing between Farrugia running at a full-back to get to the byline, and the other two running at the centre-half to get in on goal). If they can do that at a higher level, that's a great ability to have.
I think that's fair, just look at the example of Alfie Lewis for you last year, what a player he was, but did anyone really hear of him before?Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
For the league next season, I would think its almost a given that Rovers unless they collapse in form will win it again, and I don't see anyone coming close to challenge Derry for runners up.
3rd spot seems to be the one up for grabs, Sligo appear to be a fair bit weaker than last season and up front will be their challenge, Bohs lost a good few and will more than likely lose Georgie, Shels too early for them, for me its between Dundalk and Pats, and Pats with more settled look and strong end to 2021 will be favs for now. Both clubs have new managers mind.
Will be very interesting to see how Derry kick on with their host of quality signings and first full season with Higgins, still think they need something more up front, but they should be more than comfortable in 2nd.
I wouldn’t be as convinced as others at this stage that we are a shoe in for second. We could do with another centre (defensive) mid and another option up top.
I expected us to have at least a striker in by this stage we remain linked with some but clock is ticking.
Curious as to why you see Dundalk as challenging even for 3rd. The squad as of now is very poor. Last seasons best players have been lost, now heavily reliant on players who are either past their best, injury prone or unproven.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
In fairness it's still all up in the air and dependent on further business being done. Dundalk probably aren't done themselves but can still field a decent starting XI with what they have already, meanwhile as encouraging as things may be for us we still have to sign a minimum of two players that will come in as first choice.
If I may insert my two penneth:
I think Dundalk would be a good bet to finish 2nd- They have enough guys there who know how to win leagues and despite SOD's snakey behaviour, my opinion of him hasn't changed in that he looks to me like he has the makings of being a very successful manager.
If he was to take over from Bradley in 2/3 yrs that would be just mustard.
dundalk need a good few more loan players, theyve not really add much from within the league to the team. mountney and benson are just off injuries and declining, they've to deal with that horror of a pitch aswell. doyle i think is a decent prospect , martin is average enough for PD standards and bone is another one who is nothing special especially if hes used out right.
What about Harry Kenny?!Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Heard(from a v strong source) RH had Hoban and?or GK lined up but both deals fell apart and that has left him chasing..... apparently he was super confident about signing GK.That one could still happen of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
I'm not sure Dundalk will hit the ground running though. SOD had a very shaky start with Pats in his first season maybe due to implementing his style or just finding his feet in management ? Now might not be the case now as SOD has a handful of players he's already worked with but I think Dundalk fans need to try their best not to get too ahead of themselves they have a massive job on their hands to get anywhere near top 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I think Derry are going to fall very short of the hype and i can't wait.
Anthony Wordsworth signs for 2022 for Waterford. He was very good last year but looked like he was gone as was on PFAI transfer list but club announced today he is back. We have held on to most of last seasons squad.
Hard to see how that happens they were one of the best teams on a points per game from when RH took over and he's added Micheal Duffy , McEleney, Dummigan and Patching from Dundalk all of whom are great signings as well as Brandan Kavanagh and Maher (a good back up Keeper) and i doubt he is finished signing people yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
waterford signing well doesnt bode well for us down in cork , clear favourites for me now. on derry i thought higgins side wasnt all that great last season tbh scraped a few lucky results and performances werent all that head turning. duffy is a big addition along with patching but i dont think mceleney will be near his past best. pats will fancy their chances of keeping 2nd place
Duffy irreplaceable, Patching was good in some games and Europe but nothing like the form he displayed for Derry, McEleney excellent in europe but missed half the season, Dumminghan very versatile so he'll be missed, as will Murray. (Forgot about Cleary too)Quote:
Originally Posted by patsdad
Plus side, still have Hoban, Boyle, Sloggett, Leahy, Dan Kelly, and Benson and Mountney back, Gartland for experience but I don't expect him to be first choice so a decent spine, also don't see any of the best of the rest challenging for 3rd, in saying that I do think 4th might be the highest place, but certainly challenging for europe will be the target.
I also think we need 2 more players with decent experience, even if yet another Welsh u21 arrived today.
Waterford are clear favourites for what out of curiosity? The Munster Senior Cup? I'm struggling to see how what they do impacts Cork at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd2793
clear favs for the FD? do you need it spelled out for you? it impacts us as we also want to get promoted. hope that helpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
You’re going to get some land when Waterford arrive for a game in Division 1 next seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Ha Jesus I was having a brain fart there. Apologies JD. I genuinely forgot they went down for a minute. I stopped paying close attention to the play off situations about half way through the season.
I assume this is aimed at Higgins and Derry? Derry already have two keepers, one of which signed a long term contract...Also Derry seems to rate and are backing Jamie McGonigle to be their main striker. Who was the keeper they supposedly had lined upQuote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Major coup for us in division one. A strong squad is coming together. A good mix of youth and experience, we need a few more additions though, lack of depth last year unfortunately played a role in us getting relegated. By all accounts Wordsworth turned down a premier division club to stay at Waterford.Quote:
Originally Posted by trevy
I read it as GK meaning Georgie Kelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sulywaterfordfc
On the topic of him, one of the papers had an article online a few weeks ago saying he has options in Holland and Denmark as well as the UK. Would be interesting to see how he’d do in another European league rather than a Ross County etc