I've not been following this. What is this for re UCD - the Youth Champions League ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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I've not been following this. What is this for re UCD - the Youth Champions League ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
We're in the Youth Champions League as LoI U-19 champions.
Full details here (mostly - we're aware there's an error somewhere)
Draw is on Tuesday - there's no pools as yet of course, but Cork's pool was regionalised, so a possible pool would be Ajax, Hammarby, Molde, KaPa, Breidablik, UCD, Dudelange and Esbjerg. Inter and Bordeaux are possibles too, though then one of the 8 others would have to drop out.
But we'll know more on Tuesday. First round in late Sept/early Oct.
Jaysus - that's exciting stuff ! Well done UCD :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Great stuff and a real incentive for the u19 league winners
Pity it's not more certain that they can quality for Europe, but I suppose we're lucky to have the chance at all. A guaranteed European spot, even if an earlier round was created to ensure that, would be a great carrot for players playing in the u19 league to know for sure it was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
It'll be easier for this year's winners to qualify thanks to Dundalk.
The first 32 countries in the UEFA rankings have their champions qualify automatically. Liechtenstein are one of those, and they don't have a league, so that means 33 gets in by default. After that, you're relying on a club to both qualify for the CL groups and win their underage league (or the UEFA Youth League). As Ireland were 41st in the rankings, we needed 8 clubs to do that before we qualified (we got 10, plus this discrepancy of 1)
But Dundalk's run last year saw the league move up to 38th, so this year's winners will need 3 fewer "doubles". Cobh are going quite well, which would be interesting seeing as they're one of the only LoI teams never to have been in Europe before.
What's the money like for an u19 European league.
Away match expenses only, I think?
Maribor of Slovenia was the error on the wiki page; they won the U-17 league, but wiki had the U-19 winners, who did qualify last year.
I think even the away match expenses are capped at some level. So hope that you don't draw Astana...
Pools are regionalised - so I think it'll be either a Nordic or a Benelux country. Maybe France or Italy instead, but no farther.
Even in round 2 (usual proviso on "if we somehow get there", etc, etc), it's fairly regionalised, though the two western pools get merged and the two eastern groups get merged so there's a bit of a wider spread.
Cork got HJK of Finland and then Roma, which would be ok travel-wise.
I see Rosenborg beat Ajax home and away to reach the Europa League group stages. Puts Dundalk's result in a bit of perspective
And Ajax were in the final last year, mad really. Could've been a whole different story had kilduff got his shot a few inches lower in extra timeQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Draw is today at 1pm, streamed on UEFA.com. No pools as yet - and UEFA only says the teams "may" be split into pools - but there was regional splits the last two years, when the non-CL teams were invited.
If it's the Nordics and the Benelux countries in our pool, then Ajax are surely the plum draw, though you could see it being close to double figures (they got to the quarters the last two years)
I have literally no idea what to expect here (imagine Cork were the same last year, and they won a round). I presume it's this year's team that enters, not last year's team, but we're going well in the league this year again anyway.
Pool as expected but with Legia Warsaw in instead of Dudelange
Stream here now
UCD in pot 2
Molde of Norway; home first
And winners to play Zimbru/Vllaznia in the second round. So there's a ready made excuse for losing to Molde anyway. :)
€8K fine for Shams for "people standing in the stairwell during the home Europa League tie with Mlada Boleslav" :eek::eek:
https://www.buzz.ie/football/shamroc...es-year-252168
A lot of clubs get fined for that, not that it should be too difficult to police.
I was shocked at the size of the fine more than anything tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I suppose i shouldn't be after the fine we got for the Palestine flags v Split but its getting ridiculous now.
Maybe the observer was looking over at half-time when Shams fans were looking to use the bogs at half-time or looking to leave the ground at full-time and just looking at the dying minutes of the match from the stairwell?Benefit of the doubt and common sense should be applied.
The observers reports would be an interesting read.
The fans who cost us money in fines for this stuff and pitch incursions are hurting the club. The front of the East stand is going to be meshed off against cork to try to stop this. Will they be happy when the FAI close the wast stand ?
The fans who have been involved in pitch invasions have typically being getting a soft ride from other their fellow club supporters, security staff and the clubs board. Heavy fines and sanctions like ground partial closures are what forces reality and stimulates action.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Rovers are not unique in their 'see no evil, hear no evil' approach
I don't have a problem with the stairway fines. They seem to be levied fairly across clubs and if, touch wood, something bad did happen those areas need to be free. It shouldn't cost the club much to ensure stewards and trained and available to ensure fans aren't blocking exits.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Go away you spoofer, you have no idea what their fellow club supporters are saying to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Fans whove had to be removed from the pitch this year have actually been issued with bans from the ground but sure that doesnt suit your narrative so just ignore thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Are you seriously suggesting that Rovers have routinely issued bans to any supporter involved in a pitch invasion?Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Rovers appear to be belatedly taking some action, probably because of the fines incurred and the threat of further more severe action by the FAI. As a result some supporters may now be starting to wake up to the negative financial consequences of the these regular pitch invasions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
For quite some time, the typical reaction among Rovers supporters on Social Media and message boards has been to minimise or defend this behaviour.
I have also witnessed outright hostility and aggression from many travelling Rovers fans towards stewards and security staff who tried to prevent these pitch invasions
I don't believe that the ostrich type attitude to this problem is unique to Rovers, but the problem is undoubtedly more pronounced than anywhere else.
BS the club have been banning those involved and have now gone a step further. Fans on social media defending other fans does not mean the club feel the same.
You really need to start reading posts properly, he said "belatedly" and has acknowledged Rovers are taking some action. But let's not pretend that this has always been the case, if it was there would be very few Rovers fans left. He also acknowledges the fact that these problems are not isolated to Rovers but that seems to go over your head as you furiously smash your keyboard. Time for decent Rovers fans to acknowledge they have the largest element on numptys attached to their club and spend their time helping the club weed them out instead of attacking fans from other clubs who point out the elephant in the room
I suspect they neither think not care about what impact their behaviour has on the club. If they did, they wouldn't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Your right they don't have the brains to appreciate it.
I'm not banging my keyboard I'm reacting to someone criticizing the club for taking action "belatedly" when if they did nothing they would be criticized for doing nothing.....with some posters we can't win.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Anyway hopefully our own collection of numpties will start to get the message.
I suspect not somehow and it'll keep happening until they are all banned
Story with Bradley at a LOI u-15 match today?
Is he leading by example?
BTW,i'm only asking ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI0c41GXoAAc03D.jpg
No problem you dont generally display bod :) Shocking reffing but no excuse for either side. Real needle between Dublin clubs and kevins the slave traders. They aren't allowed enter next year's league unless they sign up with bohs so they aren't happy. Important for loi to take control of the best kids.
I wouldn't phrase it like that. It's giving them the best chance at the highest level possible in Ireland and giving them a clear pathway to senior level while not indoctrinating them into thinking it's England or bust.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Thats what i mean by taking control. Its as impirtant to educate the parents about how nuts it is to gamble their kids lives at 15 and that's easier if the kids are under the control of the Loi clubs.
Loi clubs see 15 year old kids as potential first team players , the slave traders in kevins want to get 5 or 10k for selling the kid as an end game
I wouldn't listen to that twitter account at all seems to have a real dislike of rovers, if you scroll down they have a go at duffer for saying previous coaches have given his players bad habits of not playing the right way then scroll a bit further and theyve a go at coaches for not coaching teams to play football right themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Are you saying that no Rovers staff were sent off?Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
No but but what i am saying is theyre making it out to be a lot worse than it was when you compare what theyre saying to what other people who were there were saying that becomes pretty clear. For instance he says two members of staff were sent off, what he doesn't mention is they were just spectators at the game and according to other people that were there one was just a fan while the other was Bradley. Also according to people who were there it was far from "verbal abuse", ive heard the lino was asked a question with no voices even raised but i wasn't there so i dont know for sure. They also leave out that refereeing performance was apparently a complete shambles. They also dont point out that apparently it was a brilliant game of football with both teams playing the right way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
So all that considered that account is the last place id go for an accurate account of what happened.
That twitter account is constantly sniping at LOI clubs and making ridiculous statements with nothing to back it up.
This tweet reply which they RT'ed is fairly representative
Always with the "poor me", "think of the children" and patently false assertions like "we're proven to be hugely successful at this" type of ball axe