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Neil this is a very good post but I also think it is fair to say that it may be a personal issue as a poster several slots above this made.........I mean I can see the light on what you are saying but you must admit depth wise, maybe Andy giving Trap a ring and getting involved again wouldnt be a terrible thing........However you do have me thinking as to if it is something more, if Trap just is maybe thinking Andy and the current ROI form do not mix.........
is ried better than duff,mcgeady,hunt or lawrence? they all start week in week out for their clubs and preform quite well while ried is a squad player? i admit duff is not at his best at club level but shines for ireland.
i dont think is any better than these three and with the hopefull return of stephen ried there is no place for andy..
Im going to make this very simple. You only have 3 subs. So, including the # of players involved in a side, plus taking into account Players who can play DIFFERENT positions, how on earth does he still not make the team?
Eddie Nolan is never going to play. Andy Reid might. He might start.
" I watched Reid last week and thought he played very well"............Trap quoted in Sunday Independent. Duff dodgy, Reid playing well, every cloud, etc etc
Trap has said that he would name Andy Reid in an initial world cup squad of 40, may as well shoot him in the knee caps.
Reid is not a squad player. He played very well pre season and has now played himself into the full team. Have you watched his last four games? He was Sunderland’s best player in all of them. Anything good that Sunderland did was created by him. He was not wonderful in his defensive duties against Burnley but excelled in every way against Birmingham mid week. Keep an eye out for him this afternoon as his live on TV.
He is a better winger than Lawrence and Steven Hunt. Andy Keogh does not count as he is played out of position while playing for us anyway.
While I hated this whole get Andy in the squad hype last season I think Reid is a much changed player than he was, he seems much sharper and fitter. He has played fantastic the last few games and probably does deserve a place on the Irish squad (and I said squad not team)
He is miles better than Liam Miller in the center and while Hunt plays decent for Hull he is crap for Ireland
He won't be called back up for a qualification game though, his first match return should be in a friendly
I agree that we should be hearing Traps thoughts on Reid than Ireland though since Ireland doesn't ever want to play for us in the near future and Reid is working very hard for it
I do not think we need to hear his thoughts at all. I would like to think that the media is not a good place to discuss these issues. If Trap wants Andy Reid back in the squad, a quick phone call would be the best way not via the media in my view.
They did and they got this. Trapattoni has also said that if Ireland do qualify for next summer's World Cup, Andy Reid and Lee Carsley will be included in the 40-man preliminary squad and he feels they must now prove they deserve to be included in the final party.
"I watched Reid play last week and thought he played well. We have the situation where (Darron) Gibson is playing well and (Keith) Andrews the same. I am looking at Reid -- he created a good goal last week."
I believe Trap will bring Reid back if he continually plays well for Sunderland (which is not a given). I agree with Neil about Trap's system and Reid's place in it. But sometimes a player is playing so well that he simply can't be ignored. Hopefully Reid has improved enough and consistently shows it. I bet loads of us on here will be watching todays match to see not only the Wolves Irish but to see how Reid plays. I have a feeling Trap or Tardelli will be watching this one.
Trap might have backed himself into a corner, I hope not.
Reid is more than capable of being a back up option to have in the squad as a replacement for Duff.
Reid played the whole game against Wolves and did well. Chipped in with an assist too.
I thought he was a bit quieter than the last few games. Wolves seemed to be the better team for much of the game and Keogh and Doyle were more prominent in the first half. Reid definitely got into the game more in the last half-hour and certainly contributed to Sunderland's ultimate victory.
Reid was ok today was anyway near as good as he was the last few weeks, his assit was from a corner though to be fair
I would say Reid was just OK today. He hit a good corner for Turner's goal, and made a couple of nice long range passes, but equally, he wasted a lot of possession and ran into trouble a number of times as well.
If Trap was watching, it was hardly the sort of performance that would make him feel that he was making a mistake, let's put it that way.
No disrespect but I think you are just nit picking here looking for faults if you like. Ok he was not at his best but if you had to analyse our present wingers Duff, Hunt or Mcgeady during a game you will find that they probably waste more chances than Andy did all game.
How many times did he lose possession, twice maybe from what I could see? He never stopped running and was always looking for the ball something that Whelan, Gibson and Andrews could learn from.
If McGeady and Duff are injured for the upcoming matches then I'm pretty confident Trap will all up Reid. He surely remembers how awful Keogh was on the wing against Italy, so hopefully he'd call up Reid for cover.
I was looking at a Sunderland messageboard earlier, generally positive about Andy, but still a few scattered complaints:
http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=443716
Article from Saturdays Irish Times and i know its only some 'hack's' opinion but I think he makes some interesting points especially regarding Reid's fitness.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...255284090.html
I thought Reid was excellent - Some unbelievable through balls, which would be the tonic for our usually afwul long ball tactics. I dont think he gave the ball away much either. I also thought Keogh had a great game. He was causing plenty of trouble.
from football365 - http://www.football365.com/story/0,1...592954,00.html -Quote:
Andy Reid has been credited with an assist in every game since he was restored to the Sunderland starting line-up.
Just gave in a peach of a ball over the United defence for Jones to nod in. He's just too valuable an asset not to have in the squad. Trappa needs to stop being a stubborn old so and so and just call him up.
A good performance by Andy today at Old Trafford. His setup for the second Sunderland goal especially was him at his best. I hope Trapp is watching and considering but I still think he is more inclined to pick two defensive central midfielders. We'll keep our fingers crossed though.
Yes it it will look good if he plays a part in turning over ManU at home, he's been subbed now, also lost my stream :mad:
Sunderland down to 10 men - oh dear - 5 mins left.
Also I have to reboot when I lose the link because it screws up my internet connection! (on sopcast, anyone else get that?).
Owtch, 2:2, own goal too, I guess it looks better for Reid in a way that he was off the pitch when Man U equalised, exciting finish to the match.
There will be an enquiry as to why the exact amount of injury was played.
I missed Reid, just started watching as he was subbed.
Reid was pretty much involved in every decent thing sunderland did going forward, i think it's pretty fair to say he's almost proved himself and trap needs to bite the bullet and give him a recall, as a wild card on the bench at least he would be a major asset
Reid on current club form is about our 4th best player. Some of his football today was excellent. He made a great run for Sunderland's first goal taking a defender out of Bent's way. And his play leading up to the class pass for Sunderland second goal was a thing of beauty.
He was one of the best players on the pitch today. Trap has to take notice now with the squad for the qualifiers. Whether you agreed or disagreed with his reasons for excluding Reid twelve months back they no longer hold true now so based on Trap@s logic should be included>>>
Gibson didnt even make the bench. O'shea played well though, setup utd's first goal
O'shea actually had a hand in the tying goal too, kept it in and the like.
You know Andy should not have come off today.
And A blind man could see based on talent vs the end of the Ireland bench that he should obviously be in the squad.
Im thinking:......we get Germany in the playoffs. Andy Reid in the 90th minute to give us a road goal. Ireland Qualify for world cup. Trap hugs him. All is forgiven.
If he causes problems in the squad if he isn't being picked, you can only call him up if your going to play him. That said, if he keeps his level of performance up, that day is getting closer