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They could, but all three scenarios are really remote unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azrob Spooh
Still gutted we threw away sucha great opportunity, Rosenborg aren't what they used to be (won 1-0 with a penalty in Reykjavik last night) and the third round draw was kind - Skonto Riga v Debrecen.
Maybe thats true, but if we don't win next Wed night, few will remember the outstanding display away to BATE, as we will be knocked out, so we need to back all of this up with a positive result, and that's going to be very difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by paykanti
I think we are very capable of causing an upset, but keeping these guys scoreless is going to be a massive challenge.
Well I meant teams more or less as good or better than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Were you there? He set his team up almost identically to O'Neill's sides and for the most part they played the same way. Dundalk are a completely different side to either.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
What makes the need for a result most pressing is I don't see Towell staying on another year and replacing him isn't realistically going to happen. I fear this side's peaked so it really would be a shame for them to not do it on the big stage.
If Rovers go to Odd and qualify for the next round, you'd have to believe they wouldn't be too afraid of Randers or Elfsborg.
Scandinavian and Nordic sides apart from Iceland tend to be strong at this stage of the competition its always hard for LOI sides to get past them.
I didn't see Richie staying this season. I agree he is likely to move, if he gets the right offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by paykanti
Teams evolve though. My player of the season in 2014 was Pat Hoban. We're doing quite well without him.
In fairness, Rosenborg are 5 points clear in the Norwegian league after 16 games and beat the side that Beat Rovers 3-0 last Sunday and Odd were technically far superior to Rovers last night. I don't think Cork would have stood much of a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Not if we played like we did in Iceland anyway, but in my imagined universe we took the game to KR in the second half and are a much better team than in reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
IMO Stevie O Donnell since he has regained his starting XI spot this season has been our best player in the games we have played. Many people at the game the other night said he was by far Dundalk's best player.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
He is like a new signing considering he has only started the last 3/4 games and all rest before that he came on for last 15/20 minutes.
Towell has a contract with Dundalk next season, I wonder how much we will get for him (look for him) if he leaves?
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Originally Posted by Kingdom
Do you believe in miracles?
Agreed, O'Donnell is our best player and the best player in the league by some distance. He was immense against BATE, coolness personified. Keeping him fit is keyQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
I think you are being very premature with your assessment. Removing Rodger's and O'Donnell I think the average age of the side is around 24 or 25. There is still a lot more to come from this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by paykanti
We have a good chance against BATE and we are as good as them judging by Wednesday's nights performance but you must remember that they are CL regulars. I have no doubt they have been in this situation before and have dealt with it. I also have no doubt they will be alot more clued into how we play our moves and shapes and can exploit it.
The game is delicately balanced and we have add good a chance as they have of progressing but we can't underestimate the strength of this bate team.
I think we will win the 2nd leg but the tie is another story.
Tbh I have waited 20 odd years as a Dundalk supporter to see a team like this and just enjoying every minute of it because they are a special special team
Dundalk have a very, very realistic chance of making the next round and if it's Videoton they meet, then they'll go through that too. Great days.
Rovers still have an outside chance but I can' see them getting past the next round. UCD have a great draw with Krasnodar or "Chokenadar" as they're known here. One of the great playthings of Russian football they've done a really good job in becoming a decent club, but the owner is so mental that he's already looking past whoever wins the UCD/Slovan tie.
Bar last season their European results are not too shabby at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
In the first half of UEFA Champions League game versus Dundalk F.C. I was involved in an incident. I am really sorry about that. At the moment I understand wrongfulness of my behaviour and accept that there is no place for aggression in football. I would like to voice my sincere apologies to Dundalk player Dane Massey.
I accept wrongfulness of my behaviour and I am ready to take any punishment from UEFA Disciplinary Body and from my club.
http://www.fcbate.by/en/infocenter/club-news/id4347
Looks like the BATE striker Vital Radzivonau knows he is going to be banned.
I'm in full agreement with you, they are a good side. However Dundalk play the type of football that can undo them. Quite a few people watched our match last week here and it was amazing to hear the compliments. The best was that "you're not a British side, you can play football." And it was noticeable that our players could generally control the ball and not react violently. UCD were none too shabby either, I didn't see Rovers, but 2 from 3 is pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
BATE have a Cup game today, though against a 2nd Division side. Wonder how many will play today that will also play Wednesday?
If they go with Duncan Ferguson a maximum of 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Aliaksandr YERMAKOVICH (BATE Head Coach):
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=#000000]- A win is a win, but the margin is really small. This is not the best result before the second leg. A win is a win, but if we assess the game, Dundalk proved to be a very serious opponent as we had expected. I think the first half was not the best for us in spite of two goals. We lacked something both up front and in defence. Now we have more information about the opponent and have a week to analyse what we know now. Hopefully that will help us in Ireland.[/COLOR][/FONT]
The last couple of lines speak volumes abut their preparation and why the players resorted to the Odd Headbutt. A little worrying too that with a weeks preparation they would improve. Building up to the 1st leg I gained confidence that we could do well, getting closer to the 2nd leg it's the opposite...
From what I heard, BATE had scouts at three Dundalk, whereas Kenny only got to one of theirs. I suppose a manager can get a much better insight than scouts, though. But it seemed they took the tie pretty seriously, they just probably didn't expect Dundalk to handle the step up in quality so easily.
One of their assistant coaches was at the Drogheda and Galway games. I imagine they just expected to be able to beat us easily. I can't find the quote but I believe after the game their coach made a reference to Glenavon's defeat to Soligorsk and was expecting us to be a similar standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I may be misremembering but I thought the quote was more along the lines they were expecting something similar to Glenavon until they saw Dundalk play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I think that was it. The coach knew it would be a contest. He just didn't get it across to his players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Could have been that alright. My brain still hasn't fully recovered from the trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
BATE certainly didn't underestimate Dundalk, but they did (rightly) believe they would be better. But it was never going to be more than a goal in it. BATE's tactics, which were clear to see in the 2nd half especially, was about trying to get Dundalk players to react. It is typical of Eastern Europe and especially how they rattle opposition. How many times were Dundalk players upended by sneaky trips, shirtpulls and drags - it was a combo of technical fouling and Dundalk's speed. But the Serbian ref was wise to it as it's rampant in ex-Yugo countries. If it weren't for the eagle eyes of the ref and his assistants there would have been mayhem. As for the headbutt, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-8ZDvnVFY it's Germany, but same territory. They know what to do to gain an edge.
Hey all, was wondering if there is anyone going to the dundalk match on Wednesday going to passing thru naas willing to give me a lift. I am working until about half three or four.
Give me a free ticket, petrol money, and a shotgun and I'll do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseldlk
Was hard enough getting my hands on the ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
and like Towell he was an underage star who just didn't get the break over in England. It's been my belief for a long time that we need to be getting the best of our 19's & 21's into the league here until they're able to make a name for themselves elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
The FAI need to be more influential in their support of the league, and demonstrating it as a viable career path for underage players who are never going to be playing for the "big clubs" in England, that it is more benefit to the players to be playing at a good level for Dundalk, Rovers, Cork etc than going to Kiddeminster or Dagenham & Redbridge on loan for a season and then getting caught in the lower league mire.
Same with Rovers getting Drennan and Miele.
O'Donnell has stated that he wasn't emotionally ready for life in England when he went over to Arsenal. He has said that he should have gone down the scholarship route with UCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
If the FAI is serious about developing Irish talent, they should be working with the Irish clubs to establish 3 year structured scholarship programmes.
Well both teams have no suspension worries ahead of Wednesdays game. Rodionov has been cleared of any wrongdoing by UEFA despite an admission of guilt via his apology and the fairly clear TV evidence. The 'headbutt' didnt seem that bad (if you can grade a headbutt) when I initially saw it, but Dane Massey said he was bleeding after! He would have been a big miss for them and if he plays major role in knocking us out there will be plenty of finger pointing at UEFA. Footballing governing body in confusing decision making shocker....
Maxi, is that you? Would have thought you'd have been sorted already with a ticket!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I said petrol MONEY.Quote:
Originally Posted by colonelwest
Is the UCD game sold out does anyone know?
Haven't heard that it is.
6pm kick off won't really help. But give the Sports Centre in UCD a ring (or try the modh-er'n facebook way)
Well you'd hardly expect to pay for your own self immolation mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
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Game on in Belfast now - Crues 1-0 up after 50 minutes, with the Albanians down to 10 men since the 10th minute.
4-2 on aggregate now; Crues need two more to progress.
Disregard; Albanians equalise and Crues now need 3 to force extra time.
Maybe their keeper or centre halfs were on holiday for tonight too.