Derek Loughnane gone back aswel. I heard Murt Tynan has left Town aswel and the new goalie they signed from Kilkenny
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Derek Loughnane gone back aswel. I heard Murt Tynan has left Town aswel and the new goalie they signed from Kilkenny
As I have alluded to in previous post... it's all well and good signing players from outside your own area but you must remember you are not going to get too much loyalty when you get a poor run of form. Rats and sinking ships come to mind.
Question for Town supporters, is it possible that some of the local players left because of the influx of the many outsiders joining? Also by signing to many non locals are you losing a clubs true identity for the sake of success?
I have seen sides with all local players really struggle too when results go against them so its not just as easy say everyone left cause they were not local. when a team is struggling week in week out some fellas dont want to know.Unfortunatly Its just the make up of attitude of a % of modern day junior players. In most clubs there are the players who will just dissappear when going gets tough and the ones that stay through thick and thin have to be admired. Admittingly it must be very hard to travel long distances to play out a season for no silverware but at the end of the day these players would have no problem doing the same journey if they were still in fai or top of the league.
The local lads who left Clonmel in the past few seasons have been a major loss. But most of these left of there own accord and the club done its best to replace them.Unfortunatly the replacements are now almost all gone and all thats left is loyal servants like raymie condon, shanahan and scully and bunch of young lads. They have no choice now but to give youth a chance with the first team and im sure with a year or two of rebuilding they can get back to the top again and compete
You have to keep your identity, as a local club. The older generation of Town have that. We have had imports with some sucess (McSharry) and some failures. It was a source of major pride to the club in 2004 that everyone of the panel was from Carrick and still is today with just one player from Waterford City. Teams in the Waterford City have no identity as players hop from one club to the other regularly even Tramore are now diluted which they never where just in search of silverware. Hopefully Town can get back on track next season.
Balls your point is well made and in the most part I agree with you.... I believe Town just had to many outsiders at the one time, every team can integrate 2/3 without losing the local identity and those players chosen correctly can have a hugh influence within the club. I believe in the longterm town with the old core (all class players IMO) integrated with the new young talent will profit in the long run. How will the returning players to old clubs be viewed, the Villa boys had just won a league before they left, will the loyal servant who had to suffer a poor season 2010/11 be happy.... now that they return when the club is returning to strength and should challenge for league next season if they retain what they have built to date?
Yes very true and to be admired the success Carrick had with local talent and most of it achieved when Rock was still in existence and nearly always had a decent team..
The returning villa players left previously to join Kilkenny in similar circumstances and again peake were left in the lurch but a great sign of the club that they have rebuilt twice in say 5 or 6 years. Clonmel town should take inspiration from villa they way they came back from mass amounts of players leaving and the villa done this without the resources of top youth players that town have in the ranks. Its not nice to talk about players being welcomed back or not, but as said earlier the ones that stay really should be admired. Hate mentioning names but alan leahy for peake is great servant in good and bad times and im sure when the good times do come around, lads like him appreciate and value there medals alot more and rightly so. On a final note as its junior football dont think its fair to be slagging and naming players for leaving there clubs so i will be refraining from commenting on this topic in future. only a game at the end of the day and if these players were not some of the best in tsdl other clubs would not be looking for there services. So realistically as most of us when playing were probably never in demand :) its easy for us to comment about loyalty
So you think that a junior player who is offered payment to play and test themselves at a higher level should be looked on as some sort of turncoat. These players wanted to try league of ireland with kilkenny and junior clubs should be happy that they have produced players with the ability to do so. Your opinion sounds very bitter and smallminded to me. Nobody should begrudge a player the chance to play at a higher level . To do so is quite sad. On players moving between junior clubs the buck stops with the managers, and it always does. It is not the players faults in clonmel whats going on at the moment, everybody and the dogs on the street know what the problem is
i never said i had a problem with the players leaving to play league of ireland, every top junior player should aim to play if at all possible logistically. i only brought in the fact about kilkenny exodus from peake when a previous poster mentioned would they be welcomed back and i was just stating that some of the players were welcomed back in similar circumstances in the past. I am far from small minded and am probably more a league of ireland football fan than a tsdl one so go easy with calling people sad "the wombat". Happy new year to you 2 fella :)
The loyalty thing in junior football is always something that interests me,there has to be something to be loyal to,for example if you play with Saint Michaels you are playing with one of the countries finest teams and the same goes for Town so its a lot easier be loyal to that than for example if you play with Borris or Villa and the club goes from year to year in different states,sometimes a shambles and sometimes strong,players have short careers and its important to play in Fai finals or Munster finals,thats my twopence worth
congrats to tipp town fc on winning the 3rd division shield in their 2nd year going
I heard that Ronan Stanley has moved to Peake Villa as well. There hasn't been an exodus like this since Moses led the Israelites from Egypt the night of the Passover. Some scenes.
"You gotta call me man, I'll be the biggest fan you'll ever lose
Sincerely yours, Stan, P.S. We should be together too." Last words
Two Mile Borris 0-4 Clonmel Celtic
Kevin Waters, Dwaine Burns (2) and Paul Shanahan were the scorers
Villa 1 saints 4
Ritchie ryan put saints 2 up but Alan Leahy pulled one back Just on halftime but saints came out 2nd half with goals from chalkie and Michael McGuire to give saints a good win
Town played well in a 1-0 win against Cahir Park today. Dave McGrath was hungry, he was fed, and he scored. All thoughts of going to Fairview are surely behind him.
On a more serious note, the Cahir goalkeeper Slattery, prone to the odd howler, sliced the ball to McGrath at one stage. With an open goal, Dave went to hit it on his left but fell over. The capacity crowd erupted with laughter. Ray Condon said it was the funniest thing he's seen in all his days in the TSDL.
There's whispers that Tony Davis could make a Paul Scholes-esque return to football. Scholes is a pure helmet
Good game, i dont think the scoreline really did peake any justice, they were close for an equaliser a few times in the second half but just couldnt put the ball in the net... michaels had that bit of class late on to win the penalty to make it 3-1 and clincher to make it 4-1.
Villa are strong but michaels just top class.
anyone hear what happened with the two St Michaels B lads today?
What did you hear bilko? i see now that ya say it they were 7nil, had they a few sent off or what.
two michaels lads went at it on the pitch and one got sent off
'Went at it'!!:confused::confused:, I have no problem with gay people but there is a time and a place :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SgtBilko
seriously 2 saints players fighting and at 0-7 down lol what a bunch of women where was the fight when they were 0-0 or 0-1 down,, ttfc dropped 2 points yesterday at redmonstown, mick ellard double,had to come from 1 down to lead 2-1 then a brillant header from a free kick gave redmonstown a well deserved draw....could have won it if not for goal line clearance by fergal o reilly in the dying minutes..early contender for goal of the season yesterday by mick ellard his second was a peach.
it wasnt a fight from what i heard 1 lad hit his team mate and got sent off the other player didnt retaliate. it was 1nil at the time. good win for saints up in thurles peake have recruited well they will be a force next year if they can keep everyone there.
Went to this game yesterday. Firstly game was played on a bog of a pitch that made good football impossible. Saints are very strong looking. Peake just lack a bit of guile but they are missing a goalscorer. They didnt deserve to lose 4-1. Michaels will surely complete the double now. Two big weekends ahead with the FAI and Munster. Celtic v Michaels has the makings of a great match.Quote:
Originally Posted by footballfanatic
Good to see Town back to winning ways. The reports from the game is that it was a good contest. Badly needed win for Town. Nothing game but they need to get a run together to end the season on some kind of a high. Heard they played well in Cooke park over christmas. All is not lost for Town.
word is one of the saints players headbutted his own player and was sent off ,,,,should never play for the club again
Micheals were defencively way better than peake.Villa kind of played it into micheals hands with the long balls which were never going to work.
would agree with you 1000% qwertyabu.
Clonmel Credit Union Tipperary Cup 3rd Round
Ballyneale v Galbally United
Cahir Park v St. Nicholas
Vee Rovers v Clonmel Town (B)
Cullen-Lattin v Donohill & District
Killenaule Rovers v Old Bridge
Redmondstown v St. Kieran's
Tipperary Town v Wilderness Rovers
Two Mile Borris v St. Michael's
Spectacular Effort ...Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyabu
Saints with another away tie in Tipperary Cup, Borris wont be a match for them though. Great chance for one of the smaller clubs to make a final this year with Peake, cashel, town and celtic all out already.
Oldbridge, cullen lattin or Tipp Town Fc could be darkhorses to get to final.
Can Clonmel Town B team play some of the A players who are not cup tied, if so they might also be a dark horse, Wilderness could fancy it now as well as one of the few premier league teams left and with a decent drawQuote:
Originally Posted by balls
Clonmel Town Players can only play in this game if they are not Cup Tied with First team and have played less than 5 league games this season. Once you have played 5 leagues games at a higher level you can not drop down to a B team in any Domestic game, be it Cup or league.
thanks balls tipp town for the final this year hopefully ,,tough one against wilderness but at least we are at home
Almost correct. Omit the word ''league.'' See my post of 16th July number 207.Quote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
Jesus nononsense, keeping tab's on your Post's Dates and Numbers, Taking this forum lark way to serious ha! ha!
Haha and we still don't have an answer from the question Nononsense...not living up to your name :)
Could be a possible st michaels v sherrif showdown,tasty to say the least.
Has the draw being made Boywonder,hardly?Quote:
Originally Posted by theboywonder8
FAI CUP 7th Round
Millford Utd orAthenry FC v Pike Rvs. or Wayside Celtic
Willow Park FC or Tramore FC v Dingle Bay FC or Carndonagh FC
O’ Devaney Dunard or St. John Bosco v Broadford FC or Corrib Rgs
Castlebar Cel or Sheriff YC v St. Michaels FC or Wicklow Rvs.
Bridge Utd or Peake villa FC v Sandyhill Celtic or Bansha Celtic
Kilbarrack Utd or Kinsale FC v Claremorris FC/ Ballymote /Carrick Utd
Clonmel Celtic or Highview FC v Trinity Corths or OLBC
Middleton FC or New Oak Boys v Killester Utd or Ballymun Utd
saints should go all the way this year.....only pike to watch out for and maybe ballymun
....Saints not looking past next Sunday, one game at a time. Wicklow Rovers will be a strong test for St. Michaels. Sheriff have to get past Castlebar also... let's get 6th round games out of way first,Quote:
Originally Posted by qwertyabu