The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

It's been a long time since I posted so consider that please...

I think that as a community, League of Ireland fans have to shoulder the fact that there was no real realism in regard to what was going on. I know that as Longford Town supporters the questions started to flow when we hit the fan... That is to say that the majority of supporters asked how this could happen as opposed to where is the money coming from. I suggest it's something which came from all other areas of life.

I feel sorry for Derry City fans today because they got caught out. In one manner or another every club had an opportunity to cheat the system in order to remain competitive. Some in small ways, others in deceitful ways.

As a Town supporter, I maybe obvious but I always hated the way supporters of other clubs who spent time in European competition chastised us for letting the league down. All some cared about was co-efficients. Something tangible to support the pie in the sky notions that this league offered something superior to what it actually is.

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Originally Posted by John83

What. The. ****. :eek:

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TOLD YOU GUYS THIS IS GOIONG TO GET MESSY go on DESSEY DO THE FAI IN AND THE CLOWN DELANEY

Derry are a huge loss to the league , Big team and great support but its about time the FAI has enforced the rules. Feel sorry for the fans

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Originally Posted by Flexy

TOLD YOU GUYS THIS IS GOIONG TO GET MESSY go on DESSEY DO THE FAI IN AND THE CLOWN DELANEY

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It Will get dirty ! I think.............the future not so bright for the league Im afraid!

This is very harsh indeed on Derry City fans, the league of Ireland wont be the same without them..

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Originally Posted by lowroadrover

Derry City have been thrown out of the league
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1107/derrycity.html

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Really? :rolleyes:

http://foot.ie/forums/showthread.php...87#post1267387

Do keep up. :)

There's a 50 odd page thread on this at the very top of this forum

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Originally Posted by Shiba

It Will get dirty ! I think.............the future not so bright for the league Im afraid!

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Shiba apologise for earlier no offence was meant at you, just annoyed the way our club is run but now also the way the league works. Delaney should go now before he is humiliated even more in the courts by DCFC. Good luck Sligo in the cup final do the North West Proud

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Originally Posted by Flexy

Shiba apologise for earlier no offence was meant at you, just annoyed the way our club is run but now also the way the league works. Delaney should go now before he is humiliated even more in the courts by DCFC. Good luck Sligo in the cup final do the North West Proud

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No offence taken even do it does seem I was gloating was meant rally upset for the fans of what was a great club but the rest is what I see.
Agree Delaney is a joke! Dont think the fai think anything out.From the cup final been held in 6000 seater stadium,( cant figure out for the life of me who they hoped was in the final,to the running of the league. Other clubs are in a mess and been let roam free.;They have no real interest in the league imo!
Thaks for the good wishes and hope we bring it home too be good for the Northwest!

With Kildare reportedly gone and Derry probably heading for the A Championship, will this year's A clubs be up for election to fill the last slot? Salthill-Kildare is probably off at any rate.

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Originally Posted by culloty82

With Kildare reportedly gone and Derry probably heading for the A Championship, will this year's A clubs be up for election to fill the last slot? Salthill-Kildare is probably off at any rate.

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Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.

some mighty tags on this thread ...

I think the FAI are safe from legal action no matter whether they have a case or not. Wellvan will most likely be liquidated before they ever get near court.

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Originally Posted by Shiba

Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.

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I'm sure Tralee Dynamos would jump at the opportunity to take a First Division spot.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

I think the FAI are safe from legal action no matter whether they have a case or not. Wellvan will most likely be liquidated before they ever get near court.

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Mr A why would they ask to do an underhand deal ( deal to keep hush about other clubs doing the same ) in exchange for keeping a first division place. I would say it could be Dave Rodgers the player in question whos gone to the FAI having his final say. He left Derry in bad animosity for being accused of thieving, and only played a few ganes for us

Because they really want a Derry team in the league?

Shame a big blow for Football in the Northwest here hope to God they back into the LOI or even IL as soon as possible

In all fairness how much longer can the powers at be in the FAI put up with the shambolic work that is coming from Gavin and Delaney, surely there are 2 more competent individuals who could do a better job and not cause so much bloody trouble and not make this country's professional league look like a bloody soap opera!

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Originally Posted by galwayjames

best one is "take yer oil!".

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That's my one:cool:.

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Originally Posted by Shiba

Can Galway survive another team coming in.Mervue are thinking pulling out.Be great to see a club from a county that doesn't have a team play loi getting a chance.

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Mervue said 2 weeks ago that they will be playing first division football next season

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

In all fairness how much longer can the powers at be in the FAI put up with the shambolic work that is coming from Gavin and Delaney, surely there are 2 more competent individuals who could do a better job and not cause so much bloody trouble and not make this country's professional league look like a bloody soap opera!

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Did they issue the double contracts? not pay the busman? cut contracts of new players 2 weeks after signing them?

**** all teh FAI can do if clubs are doing things like that. hard luck Derry but seriously WTF were they doing 2 contracts :eek: If i did that in my job and the revenue found out i would be royally ****ed.

thin that bothers me about all this is Sadlier knew of it, how many others knew? our players?

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

thin that bothers me about all this is Sadlier knew of it

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When did he find out about it? Did he inform the FAI when he found out?

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

When did he find out about it? Did he inform the FAI when he found out?

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he knew about 2 months ago this was going to happen, rumouringly so did everyone who plays/works in the league.


he hinted it on MNS a few weeks ago just after kenna left.

No point informing if you don't have concrete proof. It's fair to say that a lot of people around football in the Northwest would have had suspicions for quite a while. Specifically, the 2007 accounts seemed to bear little resemblance to the money many players were reputed to be on.

Edit: I know reputed sounds a little week, but neighbouring clubs will always have a fair idea what the ones around them are paying.

I'll take Salthill-Kildare is going ahead, Salthill certainly think so.

http://www.salthilldevon.ie/admin/fr..._v_kildare.jpg

No admission charge? WTF?

I see it is free in as well, was kinda the same last year in Mervue, we could pay whatever we wanted :D

They probably feel it won't attract a big crowd, so they are trying to entice people to come to their games in the long run

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

Did they issue the double contracts? not pay the busman? cut contracts of new players 2 weeks after signing them?

**** all teh FAI can do if clubs are doing things like that. hard luck Derry but seriously WTF were they doing 2 contracts :eek: If i did that in my job and the revenue found out i would be royally ****ed.

thin that bothers me about all this is Sadlier knew of it, how many others knew? our players?

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Maybe because of all the incompetency in the league over the last number of years lead to clubs doing these kind of things, like after all how many lives do Cork have before they get punished, same with Bohs, even Drogheda

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Maybe because of all the incompetency in the league over the last number of years lead to clubs doing these kind of things, like after all how many lives do Cork have before they get punished, same with Bohs, even Drogheda

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But they didnt break any rules , sad i know but they didnt.

The FAI cant be blamed for clubs doing this kind of thing, Dundalk signed players and 2 weeks later ask them to take paycuts. Is that proactive or reactive?

Dont think the FAI can be blamed for what our clubs do.

Totally agree kdjac, so long as they learn from this year and tighten the rules further to prevent/ punish some of the crap that has gone on.

Chances are though that the clubs will find new ways to screw themselves.

Reading the statement, I think that the FAI will let them play in the First Division next season if Wellvan can sort out their other problems.

Going by the amounts being bandied about regarding how much the debt is then that looks like a big if.

Derry are one of the jewels in the crown of the League of Ireland and I really don't think this is the end of them. The FAI won't want to lose them to the Irish League that is for sure.

From what I hear, whatever information the FAI had in regard to Derry's irregularities, their hands were completely tied on this one.

The City of Derry will be in mourning and I really feel sorry for the genuine fans. That is who will suffer the most.

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Originally Posted by jebus

Still obsessed with me after all these years, jesus leave it go man :rolleyes:

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Don't flatter yourself child, just asking and I see you never replied

http://www.derrycityfc.net/cityweb/

Club statement.

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

NO Dillonman, I think they do have a regualr 4 fans at their games. I would seriously hope no self-respecting United fan paid in money to watch United rejects struggle at the foot of the First Division

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So the other 96 are away fans?!

Why did you take Stephen Kenny back to destroy the club? People got carried away with some past happy memories I suspect. You drove Pat Fenlon out of the club (yes he said he had to leave for personal reasons, yes his wife would not relocate etc but a small vocal group amongst the fans drove him out> he has gone on to win the league years in a row. I remember a well known director resigning last year. He knew writing was on the wall but nobody would listen to him, think his name was Mooney or something like that! But again, all the pity for the really good and loyal DCFC fans, keep the faith and run some of them other cowboys outa town!

Incredibly sad day in League of Ireland football history.I have no doubt Derry City will be back. A massive loss for the league.

Derry City are a great club. Probably have the best fans in the league. The FAI gave Bohs a huge advance of money until they picked up the league champions prize money. Would they have relegated Bohs if they'd finished second and hence couldn't pay back the lone. Derry must have given second contracts because they faired relegation if they were more upfront about their business. It backfired obviously. I have plenty of friends who are Cork and Bohs supporters. However, if Derry are relegated shouldn't Bohs and Cork be relegated as well. This would be fair and equitable to an independent observer. They are worse off financially. I think none of them should be relegated personally. FAI and Delaney treat some people with no respect. Delaney should be ousted. They make up rules. Why they picked on Derry and not the only 2 is mysterious. In relation to an earlier post about Sligo. We have the soundest financial system. Only the manager and players get paid. The rest of the board, match day workers etc everybody do it voluntarily. They are legends.

Lads,

At the end of the day today is one stage one. The financial troubles are the serious concern, a licence is a trifling issue to be frank.

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Originally Posted by Brian Boru

It backfired obviously. I have plenty of friends who are Cork and Bohs supporters. However, if Derry are relegated shouldn't Bohs and Cork be relegated as well. This would be fair and equitable to an independent observer. They are worse off financially.

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Bohs would appear to have theirs sorted, so I would leave Bohs off, if you can build a debt and be able to get rid of it then they should not be sanctioned.

The Cork situation gets less and less clear by the day, another possible demotion there I think (hopefully not for the sake of the league)