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Originally Posted by Dodge
Will it be on Irish TV does anyone know?
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Will it be on Irish TV does anyone know?
As far as I know Setanta have bought the rights to both legs, somebody might confirm this?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by L37Ultra
I wasn't dodge, it was meant in my "non-usual-snideway" whatever that means :D I meant it in terms of fans as well as anyone else. I don't think I fully understand to be honest though. I have gone to el matches before and go to around 10 games a season in London. I am not putting down the atmosphere at all, it looked unreal and would have been great to experience it, just questioning why it was so electrice. Are you saying that every time pats go 1 - 0 down in richmond, or go down a goal at all and win, the atmosphere is that electric?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Aiming big is ingrained in me, thats all I was saying.
I don't think you get what Europe means to fans. European games are always more special even if you are playing very poor opposition worse than teams in your own league.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Pats had never progressed through two rounds of European competition (open to correction) which made this historic for them.
By comparing us to your local gaa team you're doing your usual "sure its only the league of IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Should be your signature POSQuote:
I don't think I fully understand to be honest though.
No. I'm saying that when you've known what Pats fans have endured over the years (in europe, in courts, in backrooms, on the pitch and pretty much everywhere), that when you're a goal down with 4 minutes to go, that when you're within touching distance of something you've never done before, that when you're playing great football, that when you have so much history built up with the club that nothing else could make you as happy as 2 late goals, that when you've had a few drinks, that when there are literally a million reasons why you deserve this win... then its obvious why it meant so much to fans.Quote:
Are you saying that every time pats go 1 - 0 down in richmond, or go down a goal at all and win, the atmosphere is that electric?
As I said before, real football fans understand
sorry sorta dragged this off-topic. I never compared, im just saying the mentality may have been similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
The last paragraph explains what I was asking, its not just football, or limited to football even that people have these emotions dodge, so dont be so naive to think that only fans of EL/football(really EL fans given what you described above as it relates more so in the majority at least to EL fans) can have these emotions, not taking away at all either, just pointing out.
So the question I asked, got the response I wanted in the end, it came down to going further in Europe than you had previously done i.e. cos you never did it before, and thats simply what I was asking. I just got confused with what appeared to be relief based on what some of the things you said previously.
LOL, read that back to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Thats the thing POS, only Irish people who aren't fans of Irish teams try and make out that the LOI thinks its unique. We know that every true football fan feels the same way about their team.Quote:
The last paragraph explains what I was asking, its not just football, or limited to football even that people have these emotions dodge, so dont be so naive to think that only fans of EL can have these emotions, not taking away at all either, just pointing out.
You didn't even read the post, did you?Quote:
So the question I asked, got the response I wanted in the end, it came down to going further in Europe than you had previously done i.e. cos you never did it before
picking, nit etc......
I did dodge, but every other game, that you are 1 - 0 down, you still had all the same sh1t in the background(and forergound) etc, but this match brought ye further than ever before in Europe, something ye never did before.
Its not bound to only football dodge. dont even try to limit it to it. anyhow ive had the questions I asked answered so I am happy with that and wont bother re-routing this thread any further :)
I hope that pats can at least compete in the next two legs no matter what happens.
You don't even understand the answer...
Is the 1st leg on Irish TV? 2nd leg on Irish/German TV?
Setanta have one of the legs at least, I think its the match at the RDS.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Im not 100% if that leg but am pretty sure. They announced it the other day.
Only for Setanta what would we do. :)
Given the number of league games they show I have been surprised they have not picked up the away rights for LOI European games before.Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
I hope it's not on Setanta.
I remember for the Derry Gretna match they made it a pay per view so people with no digital (like me:() couldn't watch it.
Derry v Gretna definitely wasn't pay per view. It might've been on one of their subscription channels though
True. I think it was on Setanta 1 or 2 & not Setanta Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I must be mistaken. I just remember someone telling me they had to pay to watch that match.
Great result for pats. I'm really happy about this big win. Then don't forget Elfsborg is one of the best teams of sweden. But the moral of pats players was better and so brilliant!
Next match will be against Hertha BSC! A dream draw for me, because Berlin is only 200km of Rostock away, so I will definitely watch the game in Berlin Olympiastadium on 16th september. Anyone of this forum will be there too?
Yep, I'll be there. About 400 St Pats travelling apparently
You do realise that's a completely different Kaka and completely different Lucio? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yes. (Though I meant to put it in the original post :o)
It's in ATW for the Sligo programme.
Are many of you guys making the trip out to Berlin? I live right beside the Olympiastadion if anyone's looking for tips or anything.
About 300 travelling. Wouldn't be many that post here. Most staying in the Mitte area or just off Ku'undaam.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoenz
The earliest some people are arriving is Sunday but most coming in on Tuesday morning. And there'll be people there until at least Saturday.
Looking forward to it. Apart from the Olympiastadion (I'm obsessed by the Olympics), I'm looking forward to visitng the Reichstag and the Topography of Terror. Hope the weather is fine.
Any tips for us?
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Originally Posted by Dodge
If you wanna do the Reichstag then you'll have to be there early in the day. It's free to get up the dome and is well worth it, but there's massive queues for most of the day.
It's a great city for doing walking tours around, there's a free one that leaves from Bandy Brooks ice cream shop beside Friedrichstrasse station at 1pm which is excellent. If you can, avoid eating around Mitte, they'll hear the foreign accents and serve you ****.
The Olympic Stadium is well worth a visit, but be warned, on match day apart from the game there's nothing to do out there. There's two very small bars that you could drink in, but they're miniscule. Drinking in the streets is legal, so popping to a supermarket and buying a case of the local brew (should cost about €12 including Pfand (recycling charge) may be advisable.
The stadium tour (not guided) is €3. Won't be open the day of the game and I can't see it opening before 12 on the day after the game.
If you're into museums then check out the Pergamon museum on Museum Insel (Island).
As for bars to enjoy while you're there: the main Irish bars are the following:
in Mitte you've got Oscar Wilde's on Freidrichstrasse (U Bahn stop Oranianburger Tor), which is owned by a Derry guy who also owns Quigley's Point in Paris. It's a bit of a dive, smells really bad and has awful food. It's cheaper than the other bars though and is quite big. It's €3.40 for a pint of the local, and I think it's €4.20 for a pint bottle of Magners. Staff are pretty woeful but it's central.
A much nicer place in Mitte is the Kilkenny in Hackesher Market S Bahn station. About 10 minutes walk away from Oscar's. It's much nicer but more expensive. For a pint of the local/Guinness it's €4.90. Pub quiz on a Thursday, food's much more reasonable than their booze and the staff are much nicer.
AVOID, and I can't stress this enough AVOID, The Irish Pub in the Europa Centre. It's a huge, soulless, vacuum of a place in a shopping centre. Tourist trap and overpriced and basically hell.
The one nearest to the stadium is the Harp in Charlottenberg. It's the sister pub to the Kilkenny and is in a leafy side street 3 stations away from the stadium. Also within walking distance from Ku'Damm. Same prices as the Kilkenny, with a large terrace and a large smoking room. You can booze there, and be at the stadium in 20 minutes, including the walk from bar to S Bahn station.
That's everything off the top of my head at the minute...
Thanks. We've arranged discounts (etc) on beer in the Kilkenny and the Harp (pre match for the Harp, the rest of the time in the Kilkenny). They've been really really accommodating (even drawing up maps etc). Nice to here an independent review of them though
What about the home leg, I assume that tickets are on sale on the night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If the first leg is a hammering not many will turn up but hopefully that won't happen.
Kilkenny pub poster
Tickets won't be a problem for the 2nd leg
Thanks Dodge,
Well hopefully Pats will keep the tie alive
Hertha v Pats live on Setanta from 5pm on Tuesday. RDS leg live on German TV, no news yet on Irish TV
Hoping that too! Lads, I know Fahey sat out the match the other night but any insight on whether he is fit for Tuesday! Was on the Pats site there a minute ago, and seen powers have a special for him to score a 10/1!! If he's fit, definitely worth a fiver!Quote:
Originally Posted by finnpark
German football has regressed seriously over the past 5 years, so I think we should be optimistic!!
ahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Pity it is on so early.Quote:
Live UEFA Cup - Hertha Berlin v St Pat's Live
Available in (Setanta) Ireland only. Live action from the Olympic Stadium, Berlin, as St Patrick's Athletic travel to Germany to take on Herttha Berlin. K.O. 5:00pm.
I have a feeling it may be 5 or 6 for Hertha. Pats defence has been a little disappointing in recent games.
What gave it away the 3 goals against Bohs or Fingal?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Insightful...
Its hardly the way a team should be playing conceding that many goals in a week and then playing a top German Team.
How were ye playing in the weeks before teh CL games?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
I dont believe LOI form makes much difference in the run in to European games. its a completely different scenario.
Plus Hertha Berlin could not be classed as a 'top' German team.
You think they're doing it on purpose?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
They have the players to be up there, it is just not working for them at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by holidaysong
Why would I think that, how can a team play not so good on purpose. I want them to do well, I think a 2-0 defeat would be an amazing result. Its just if they play bad like recently, it could be embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
ah come on, form's paramount!!!
After watching Hertha today against Wolfsburg, they're a team without confidence....
We'll see what happens.
It could be embarrising. St Pats have conceded 6 goals in 2 games against an understrength Bohs side and a first division side. They play a team with Marko Pantellic and Voronin up front - two Internationals, superstars in their own right.
Preview on Hertha site here.
They seem confident, but acknowledge that they need to be wary considering Pat's result against the Swedes. Hertha have won 1 drawn 2 and lost one in the Budesliga. The win was in their first game so they not exactly high on confidence.