Rafael is Man United's best "attacking" full-back. But O'Shea is the better of the other two when it comes to the basics.
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Rafael is Man United's best "attacking" full-back. But O'Shea is the better of the other two when it comes to the basics.
Aye but Fergie always seems to have mixed faith in Rafael. We'll see anyway. I'm assuming Josh is on the bench tonight for a rest
Playing Centre Midfield against Wolves by the looks of it.
Just taken off against Marseille with a suspected hamstring problem :(
Pulled up holding his hamstring, hopefully its not too serious.
Just did his hamstring. Thats him doubtful for the Macedonia game.
who will replace him if he's out?
McShane in the squad I suppose. Not exactly cavalry charging to the rescue now is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Promote Towell from the U21s, maybe Stephen O'Halloran or Matt Doherty?
With Kelly and Foley in the squad, we are well covered at right full
Wilson has been playing there for Stoke lately. Foley made his name there but hasn't been given much opportunity by Trap. Beyond that you'd be talking about Kelly and McShane.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
pulling hamstrings seems to be one of those problems that people get more and more as they reach the advanced years of their careers. it seems to he caused by a lot of other injuries also that arent properly rehabilitated from or linger particularly back or that. its a min 3 weeks lads with this.he is definitely out but will be back for uniteds game begining of April no doubt
must be contagious. john's replacement rafael gone off now with what looks like a similar injury
Going to be a very, very inexperienced defence if Given, O'Shea and Dunne are all absent. We might see Kilbane restored to the defence to marshal the back four, especially when keeping our shape is so vital to how we play. Meanwhile Goran Pandev just scored a great last minute goal for Inter in the Champions League.
Confirmed, five week absence - http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...818157,00.html
Times ruled him out this morning, and gave a firm indication that Dunne will be out along with Given. Bugger.
Out with the old, in with the new. McShane out in the wilderness. If we can just get through this game we might be able to look at it as a watershed moment.
Lads Kilbane was always going to start. Trap is way too conservative to change too much from last competitive matchQuote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
Interesting
"Brazilian full-back Rafael is a major doubt, with his manager claiming he would need to impress in training tomorrow to stand any chance of ousting John O'Shea."
http://football365.com/story/0,17033...866305,00.html
Great to see O'Shea continue to oust challengers to the right back spot at Old Trafford
Really? The phrase "a major doubt" is footballjournospeak for "injured, probably won't be fit", so I read that as 'Rafael is still recovering from his injury, and unless he shows a dramatic recovery tomorrow, O'Shea's just the safer bet'. Not that Ferguson's reluctant to use O'Shea, but I think Rafael is a little ahead of him right now when he's fully fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
I still think that if both were fit and Man United were playing a really important match he would go with O'Shea
It's hard to tell since it's been a long time since the two of them were both fully fit at the same time for a sustained period. O'Shea's injury troubles are becoming chronic and Rafael is playing well so you'd have to say he's got the shirt now, however Ferguson does tend to select certain players for tight games and O'Shea invariably gets the nod. Given that Chelsea have some big men and away goals could be costly for United, I think he'd have chosen O'Shea tonight even if Raf hadn't been injured.
That said, we're probably going to see the teamsheet later with Rafael at right back and I'll look a damned fool.
And it seems you look like a fool xD
or not... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
he just did brilliantly for the goal.
Great to see an Irishman doing well in a CL Q/F.
From what I saw of the game tonight, JOSH was very good, great ball for the goal and a few top pieces of defending, one particularly when Ashley Cole looked free on the right hand side but JOSH marshalled him back.
why doesnt he play the ball on the ground for us the way he did tonight?
Lack of options, I think. He always had Giggs or Chicharito coming short for the ball when Park was tied up. He doesn't get that enough for Ireland.
I thought he had a poor first half - some bad touches and a needless yellow card - but then he pulled out that no-look pass for the goal. A real class act.
Ya i read that wrong, you may now begin the paddling of the swollen ass CharlieQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
and now you're calling Charlie a swollen ass!!! ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
Josh looked a very accomplished player out there. It will be good to have him fit for the Macedonia game, pity he will just be replacing Dunne rather than playing at RB.
he was muck first half except for the good pass to giggs.
I actually think he's poor. Rafael is twice the player of him.
Anytime I've seen Rafael play he has put in some very dodgy and quite frankly sly tackles. Very much a liability in United 's team when he plays IMO.
Apropos of nothing, O'Shea was the third top passer in the game last night, and second best United player behind Rooney
From https://twitter.com/#!/Zonal_Marking...99101027405824
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Most passes last night: Malouda 56, Rooney 55, O'Shea 52, Giggs 51, Essien 47, Carrick 46, Lampard 45, Park 45, Evra 42 via @totalfootballfc
I think Ferguson was just trying to put a challenge up to Rafal whilst at the same time let O'shea know he still has a big part to play at United. Anyway last night showed that he was well able to perform at that level. I actually think the time out has given him new impetus, perhaps he realised the threat from Rafal, as I thought yesterday was one of his best games in a United shirt in a long time.
Basic economics indeed! :)
I see Paul edited that post 10 minutes after he posted it. What part of it was edited? Did he miss the obvious?
I suppose it all goes to prove the veracity of his first line "looking in from outside you see things a lot clearer than the pig rolling around in the sh1t,"
Suffering from skud_missile-itis...Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea