That is an absolute joke! How are the winners chosen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
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That is an absolute joke! How are the winners chosen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Here's an extract from the Sunday Times just to back up my point on Naka's intelligence:Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
“We’ve not had enough time to work with the players because of the midweek matches, and also the weather’s restricted us on the training field. Seriously, it also depends on the intelligence of the players, I only have to tell (Shunsuke) Nakamura once and he picks it up.” Smiling, the manager refused to elaborate on the slower members of his squad.
It really shows up the Scottish media tbh. RTE and Sky pundits all reckon Naka is Celtic's best player. Ruud Gullit and Jamie Redknapp rave about him every week. Brady called him a genius after the Benfica game. He has got more praise in a couple of months from pundits outside of Scotland than he has from Scottish pundits since he joined Celtic.
I'd be worried if you don't appreciate Naka's class. ;)
Your devotion to all things Naka has got you to the stage where you are now talking to yourself :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
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Originally Posted by geysir
:D :D
One of the most intelligient players in the world imo. :) He could play blind folded. :D Actually on that point. On Sunday he had the ball in midfield and passed it out wide without looking expecting Wilson to be there but he wasn't. 10 minutes later he did the exact same thing and Wilson ran onto it. At least he didn't feel he had to look around the 2nd time. ;) It'd be fantastic if he learnt the English language.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
He deserves to have definitely 2, maybe 3, SPL player of the month awards in his time at Celtic but has none. I just find that a bit strange. The media don't give him half the credit he deserves. At least Celtic fans recognise his talent.
1, Nakamura 32
2, McGeady 31 (latest MOTM)
3, Naylor 17
4, Miller 10
5, Boruc 9
6, JVoH 6
(-) Gravesen 6
(-) Lennon 6
(-) McManus 6
(-) Sno 6
11, Telfer 5
12, Wilson 4
13, Jarosik 3
(-) Riordan 3
15, Beattie 2
(-) Maloney 2
(-) Pearson 2
(-) Petrov 2
(-) Zurawski 2
20, Caldwell 1
(-) O'Dea 1 (New Entry)
Actually, Owlsfan should look at that and see how poor Maloney has been this season compared to last.
Did anybody see McGeady and Lennon having a shoving match after the final whistle at Dunfermline? Seperated by other Celtic and Dunfermline players.
What was it all about?
Naka's clips from Tuesday's match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RA03Oxs4WE
He said he saw a chip like that on Youtube and wanted to try it out himself, seriously. :D
time to get him watching all the nike ads then !!
Half time at Fir Park and finally Setanta viewers are getting to see Naka at his best. He's still getting the usual battering though.
Just announced that Barry Ferguson is transfer listed and has most likely played his last game under Le Guen.
I don't think he's officially been transfer listed but they have had a huge falling out.
Rangers official statement says that PLG has chosen to drop him for todays game against Motherwell and installed Gavin Rae as captain. Some reports are saying he has been installed as the official club captain while others are suggesting it's just for todays game.
Ferguson has been riled by PLG in the past few weeks and this has been coming. I think this might be one occasion though where the manager might go before the player. The fans see Ferguson as one of the only one's currently showing the grit and skill required to help Rangers out of their predicament.
Considering how poor they have been under Le Guen and the fact that a lot of the fans are disallusioned with him, this might just be the straw that broke the camels back.
.....as I predicted in the SPL thread after the Barry Ferguson fallout.
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Le Guen had engineered all this himself to give him an easy exit in order to take up the PSG job.
possible, but what manager wants to work for a club where he can be easily undermined by a player and dictated to by fans?
The Rangers board have been spineless on this one. They obviously believed LeGuen was the man for the job, yet have been dictated to mob rule and a scumbag of a player.
By this rationale, the next Rangers gaffer will be chosen by Barry Ferguson and the fans, not the board.
There is that way of looking at it Joe but I honestly think it was a dangerous move by him regardless.
I think it's very obvious that he under rated the Scottish League and has been badly shown up for it. He signed below par foreign players and tended to discourage battling qualities which in this instance, was exactly what Rangers required.
By doing that to the one player the Rangers fans felt was trying, was either brave (or stupid depending which way you look at it) or clever. It's anybody's guess as to whether it was a ploy.
It's fair to say that not many people abroad will follow the Scottish league so if he left now, then he could always use "the players undermined me and didn't follow orders etc" line and he would still have his reputation relatively intact.
i think he was just waiting to get rangers back to second place in a two horse race before leaving. :D :D :D
Weird goings-on with captains in the SPL. Steven Pressley being ousted, Barry Ferguson and Neil Lennon rowing with his own players! :D
Could be difficult for Rangers to attract good foreign manager when one player can dictate to the club like that.
:rolleyes:
just goes to show old favourite Barry ferguson has player power on his side which in fact has the club where it is today. second best. lets not use the Paul le guen as the scape goat.
the manager must always have the right to manage even it means when some players are under performing.
Any how the new man will sort him out one way or another.
Naka play vs Killie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFlRWpiGoys
8 goals and 15 assists this season. I can only imagine how many assists he'd have if we had a really top striker. :) Most of Zurawski's goals were set up by Naka.
Good stuff EB, keep coming with the Nakamura links.
Out of interest what do you think his transfer fee would be, if you could bear thinking about that thought?
Going by fee's in England he's well worth an 8 figure sum. There's also the potential for clubs to earn a lot of money from him as he's the biggest icon in Japan atm. Nakata cost almost £20m and Nakamura's better than he ever was. I'd be disappointed if he left for less than £10m. If I was Strachan and had the choice between £10m or Naka though I'd choose Naka. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I thought this was an SPL thread, not a Nakamura thread :p
And being slightly off topic I hope Hibs can take the first step in ending a 105 year wait to win the Scottish Cup with a win at Pittodrie tonight.
C'mon the Hibees! :ball:
If I wasn't posting about Naka this thread would be off the first page. :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kerry Blue
Can't see Hibs winning this.
i dont know what ye guys are on about, that nakurama guy is rubbish, all he can do is set pieces, even Strachan was going to substitute him against man united before he scored that goal
think im wrong? i will wait till after the milan ties then come back to me!?
even neil lennon looks good in the SPL:rolleyes:
I don't know if that's sarcasm or trolling. :)
Maybe an opinion;)
Maybe it is but it has to be either sarcasm or trolling. Otherwise he wouldn't post in a thread of which he has absolutely no interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by First
They nearly did! Unfortunately once again this season they couldn't hold on to a lead.:( Still they played well and there was some good performances from young O'Neill and McCann. I'd be confident that they will beat the Dons next week.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
See how I keep this thread up the page without mentioning what's his name.;)
They didn't seem to miss Brown and Thomson anyway.
And the old saying holds best here, particularly relevant in the light of the post under discussion:Quote:
Originally Posted by First
"Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one".
:ball: PP
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Originally Posted by Kerry Blue
Take it you mean McNeill? He was quality, and has looked very confident in all his games so far. The lad McCann was brilliant, but won't take Whittakers place unless Whittaker is moved into midfield. Stevenson done well when he came on too. Definitely should've won in Pittodrie, we were the better team, just. I was very confident of a replay win until the news on Chris Killen was confirmed yesterday. Collins will need to replace him soon.
As for the 2 muppets Brown and Thompson, we've got better midfielders without them, sooner they go the better
GGTTH
Killen will be a big loss alright, decent player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Who are your better midfielders than Brown and Thomson? Or did you mean you have a better midfield unit without them?
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Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
IMO Boozy, Stewart and Zemama are better than them (Boozy by a long shot) and young Dean Sheils is on par with them. They are great players, don't get me wrong, but the way they've conducted themselves in the media (especially Thompson with his column in the Daily Ranger) is a disgrace from guys who claim to be "die hard Hibees" You can be sure their agent McCock has a lot to do with it too. The club will be far better without them
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Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
While the players you mention are good players H4E, I think it might be a little sour grapes clouding your judgment on this one. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Brown and Thomson are great players YET, they are good players with great potential but they were quite obviously the best 2 players in the team on a regular basis.
Ok their form in the last few months hasn't been great but you are right in the respect that their agent has a lot to answer for.
I haven't been impressed with the way they've carried themselves publicly over the last couple of weeks either. The way things have gone recently, they club will be as you suggest, better off without them.
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Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Agree with all there DFA, except them being best players, agree with their form slip has really been since the transfer stuff started, and they were very important to the team pre all this. But IMO and honestly every Hibs fan I know, Guillaume Beuzelin is BY FAR the best and most important player at Hibs.
The money we get for the other two (which should be around 5 or 5 mill.) would be great for Hibs to get new players in. Collins has made it clear they won't be going anywhere this season though. Will have to wait and see.
Strange how Brown ruled himself out with injury just before a cup match too :rolleyes: Wonder what his excuse will be for the replay
This is what I don't understand. I actually like all the players you mentioned too as individuals but if Brown and Thomson are good enough for Celtic then according to you so are 4 or 5 other Hibs players. Why are Hibs so inconsistent so? Rangers are absolutely terrible this season but they're still ahead of Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Can't explain our inconsistency, this season every club has been inconsistant in some way. Even celtic have had bad games, but still got results, thats what seperates them from everyone else. In the 2-2 draw at ER Hibs played Celtic off the park, but celtic still got a draw from the game, thats why they're champions. But the 4 players I mentioned are perfect in our misfield, when all there. There'll be injury's, and the Hibs squad isn't big enough. Now with Killen out for rest of the season, we're left with Benji and Fletcher. We don't have good enough cover.
About you saying the twins are good enough for Celtic, so was Riordan, then he wasn't. Maybe it wouldn't work out for them at celtic.
Have you heard the rumour that Craig Beattie could be going to Hibs, maybe on loan for the rest of the season? If he was back to the form he had before his long term injury it'd be a great signing.
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Honestly haven't heard that yet, but with Killens injury would snap it up. Collins has promised a signing within next 2 weeks.
It might be used as part of a deal for the twins, as I remember McCock trying to use David Marshall as bait when we were having the Zibi problems