She was white, blonde and beautiful, the killer was black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
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She was white, blonde and beautiful, the killer was black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Sorry Nesta, should have clarified the US. Ive lived here for 12 years nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Whataboutism? I am trying to illustrate to you that the media have a massive part to play in this. They set a narrative and try their best not to report anything that runs contrary to that narrative.
In fact I listened to a radio host this morning lay the blame for Charlie Kirk's murder squarely on the shoulders of the media.
You are correct there are plenty of cukes out there and it is suggested that the current media narrative is affecting their minds.
46 school shootings- someone said a long long time ago that we need to protect our students from such crazy people. Armed guards are at banks and stadia but our kids are not important enough to protect?
Like you I am skeptical of these suspects that are announced
Or maybe as Charlie Kirk said, we should accept that shootings are an acceptable by product of the right to own guns, just like road deaths are an acceptable by product of driving?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
No other country in the world has the need to have armed guards around schools to protect them, its insane that its even a thought for a solution before thinking that maybe guns should be regulated better
Guns are regulated to the hilt in America but so far no one has come up with a solution for keeping them out of the hands of criminals who have no regard for and never will care about the law. Just like the illegal drugs that kill thousands of people each year in this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
And about those school shootings, they were all done in gun free zones. You are appalled at the idea of armed guards protecting our kids? I would suggest to you that a great many of those shootings would not have happened and kids would be alive today were there armed guards on hand.
That said you may want to move your focus to the lax bail laws that let repeat offenders back onto the streets time and again.
And lastly I hope you agree with me that the initiative by the current administration to put the national guard onto the streets of DC, which is reaping handsome rewards, should be employed in every major city?
Are you out of your mind. Having the military patrolling the streets is straight out of facist dictator handbook chapter 1. Hes using it as a tool to attack Blue cities only. When you have the President of the country saying things on Twitter that "Chicago is about to find out why it's called the Department of War", that is nothing more than a threat against his own citizens
Stunning logic on your part. So this policy has stopped crime in its tracks in DC. Murders, rapes, car jackings and muggings all down in numbers, and that's a bad thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Have you seen the murder figures for Chicago lately? A couple of weekends ago, something like 54 shootings with 8 dead. Just in one weekend. And you're worried about a tweet that offends you?
I don't know how you think it's ok for people to be murdered in their droves everyday in these American cities (they're blue cities as you point out and mostly run by Dems) when a remedy is being offered to save lives? That logic just doesn't add up.
Ever wonder why trump is targeting cities in states that voted against him?
There's cities in the US with far worse records than Chicago, but are all in states that voted republican.
Mark is ok with the SS on the streets it seems
I wonder why the Democrats never seem to bothered about the appalling crime statistics in the places they run ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
The Democrats have been running these places for decades and more, and the Crime Statistic are horrific !
25 Most Dangerous Places in the U.S. in 2025-2026 | U.S. News https://share.google/OIGsn2cW9bsDYjlxm
Vast majority of high crime Cities in US are in Republican States.
There's a statement to beat the lot. The SS on the streets. The SS if I remember correctly were taking lives. The national guard are protecting lives. A little bit of a difference wouldn't you say?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Once again it stuns me that someone is more worried about the image of the national guard on the streets of America (that would be the same national guard who saved people after natural disasters and had a glowing public image then) than saving lives of innocent people.
Did you read what you posted? It lists a bunch of cities that are run by Democrats. I myself listed Baltimore in an earlier post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Chicago has been murder central for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Odd isn't it. That Lefties / American Democrats don't want to stop murders / crime ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Very odd. Lefties / American Democrats love their, murders / crime ! !
theres a "first shot fired" feel to this alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
just want to play devils advocate but state voting has little to do with the situation though... right? You know better than me, but aren't most of these cities democrat Mayors (I havent checked the list but my assumption is that "large city" usually = "democrat run" whereas state/rural tends more red) and even at state level, wouldn't a portion of these states have blue Governors? I assume by Republican state you and Tets mean, the state voted Trump...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Going by the link above, neither do Republicans, and in more cities.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I dont believe this is accurate. Guns are widely available in the States. And what makes the problem worse is that weapons are available that just shouldnt be. Military grade weapons. There is no excuse for a citizen to own these. The rationale is archaic. I am good with pistols, shotguns and an normal rifles being available based on a principle of onerous regulation and lifetime ownership bans on convicted criminals and, frankly, psychologically unhinged w@nkers of all political persuasions. Theres a solution. And f*ck Cletus from Buttf*ck, Montana.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Stu quite honestly cities across the world have high crime rates. Its just a load of b0llocks being spun whether its red or blue in any country for most part. The lads here love highlighting Chicago as high crime, but for the most part Chicago is a fantastic city that I love going to. I probably wouldn't spend too much time in the south side of the City though, much like theres parts of Galway I wouldnt wanna be at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Anywhere there is poverty there is crime, simple as. If we want to look at poverty rates in the US, the top 10 poorest states are overwhelmingly Republican. Maybe we should be focused on that sort of problem instead of giving tax breaks to billioneers.
Again the 2 lads coming out with statements like the left love murder. Two months ago Melissa and Mark Hortman and their dog were murdered in their home and there was no moment of prayer in Congress, no lowering of flags to half-staff, a Republican senator openly mocked their death and other Republicans just ignored it...and that's only one example very recently.
After over a decade of complete chaos and BS, it’s the only reasonable take left. Extremists and dangerous idiots on both sides are w@nkers of the highest order. Fanning flames constantly.
Good post Razor. Will reply in a bit.
Listen, agree with you. If we were to list all of the contributing factors to serious crime and gun crime, they’d be all the socio-economic causes you list and political stripes of the state or city leaders would be far down the list and, at best, an indirect cause. The only reasonable I asked the questions and played devils advocate was because someone raised the connection first as “the reason” and you happened to be the last one to post something on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
That is utter nonsense, gun are regulate properly in just about every other country and mass shooting are rare event in just about every other country. Gun law are lax in the USA compare to most other nations and mass shooting are an almost weekly event. Every other country has violent films, violent video game, mental health issues and all the go to reasons the gun lobby use, he reason mass shooting are most common in the USA is the ready access to fire arms. You can dress it up anyway you want that is the sole reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Guns are so well regulated in the US that a cache of weapons that turned up in Ardee that were purchased from a gun shop in Arizona...
https://focus.independent.ie/thumbor...a337efb4b4.jpg
Looks like criminal activity going on, wouldn't you say? Wonder how those criminals get guns? Could it possibly be that the judges entrusted with enforcing the law are not doing their jobs? If not why not? Can you look into that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Any of those guns could have been legally purchased in the US. Maybe you should investigate that?
Legally purchased and then stolen is that what you mean? Or do you mean guns trafficked by some terrorist organization to Ireland in which case it's an international crime and the authorities in both countries should soon be on top of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Let me know how you make out looking into those judges.
And while we're on the subject of guns the anti gun lobby in the US has long since said that it's ok to own a hunting rifle but not a semi automatic pistol or rifle. Well the gun that killed Charlie Kirk was a hunting rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Looks like the suspect is in custody.
I mean purchased legallyQuote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Who seems to be from a Republican background,father a minister and a former member of law enforcement ….Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Purchased legally only for the law to be broken thereafterQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Do you judge everyone, by what their parents are, or what their parents have done ?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Maybe a bit of patience would be the prudent way, for a while at least ?
Merely passing on the information that’s available Sean,I’m judging nothing or anybody……Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Patience he says. The guy who instantly posted that the Left loves murder right after the shooting before we had a clue who did it. When it turns out it was a white guy from a good old Republican family its "lets not be so quick to judge".Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Absolute fcukin hypocrite
Be patient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Just like you were huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I might just quote myself here I guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The Current Affairs section here can be very good when it gets going. But not when seanfhear and mark drag everyone down with their nonsense posting.