I cant wait to welcome Boyle and Towell to the Galacticos next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
We'll send Quigo the other direction as a token of our gratitude
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I cant wait to welcome Boyle and Towell to the Galacticos next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
We'll send Quigo the other direction as a token of our gratitude
Good stuff. Any chance you could send Foran aswell?Quote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
HahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by desaintsno.12
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Originally Posted by Yossarian
hhhmmm... you drive a hard bargain. right , send us Horgan and we'll release Foran
Celtic 3-1 down now. Legia could get a 4th. Not looking good for the co-efficient
Referee is having a shocker too. No control of the game.
They really should be 5-1 down. Celtic should be dead and buried. Oh and there's the 4th. Finally!
Dear Tims, Pat's are a part-time side with a tiny budget and champions of a nation of ignorant morons who couldn't have picked any of their players out of a line-up. What's your excuse?
Shame about Pats collapse against Legia in Dublin. With the right attitude and preparation, they definitely would have had a chance against Celtic.
So your saying that Pats might have beaten Celtic if only they didn't get whipped by Legia!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
Let's not pretend that Pats came close to winning that tie.
I don't think they came close but it was all down to collapsing in the second leg. That injury time equaliser changed the tie completely. If they'd headed into the game in Tallaght with a lead I think it would have been a different tie. Once that goal went in, I think the greater experience and talent of the Poles was always going to win out (speaking in hindsight).
Not surprised Celtic got hockeyed. The scottish league is absolute rubbish, just with better facilities, and most of the teams would be well beatable by LOI sides in European competition.
Could say the same about the Polish league.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
Better team won but 3/4 the way through the ties there wasn't much in it. 2nd goal killed Pats and then injuries to Brown and O'brien meant we played last 20 with Conan byrne playing his first ever game at right back. Not blaming him but the last 3 goals only cam eabout as the ties was over. 2-0 or 5-0 didn't really matterQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Celtic not out yet either way
Celtic aren't out but only because Legia are pretty mediocre and Celtic do have the better players. The only thing is their defence is so awful you can't see them not conceding, so they'll need at least four. They badly need Stokes back because that Norwegian lad looked like he'd been plucked from the U15s.
Pats lost 5-0 but I don't think anybody watching it would agree the scoreline reflected the game. Pats were poor but they weren't thrashed, whereas Celtic were and the 4-1 scoreline was flattering if anything.
I think Legia are a lot stronger than people are giving them credit for.
Radovic is a cracking player and is proving his worth with his goals in Europe alone. If he were a bit younger, you'd imagine Serbia would be taking a closer look at him for an international call up.
Duda is a real ball player and tore Pat's apart in my view. Their keeper Kuciak, in the two games against Pats alone, looked head and shoulders above any keeper in the LOI.
Just on a bit of research, they've 15 full internationals in their current squad as per Wiki.
They're really not. They're better than Pats but for a club with a budget of €30 million+ they're bog standard and they're very beatable. Agreed Radovic is a star though.
Their budget is irrelevant though surely? Of course, give Pat's €30 million to spend and they'd probably put together a team capable of reaching the group stages, but at the end of the day, while Pat's had a chance, in truth, Legia are miles better in all departments.
Anything can happen over 180 minutes of football, but realistically, Legia were always going to win out in the end.
No, they really weren't. The tie was in the balance until Pats switched off for a moment and allowed Legia to equalise. If they'd won that match, there's every chance they'd have finished the job.
And budget is relevant in terms of saying for what Legia invest in their players, they're really pretty ordinary and beatable by any half decent side. It helps they have a no-mark of a coach.
Just keep in mind that 30 million Euro in Poland exchanges for 120 million PLN which is a HUGE amount of money there.
In other news, it finished Shakhter Karagandy 4-2 Hajduk Split in the first leg.
Rosenborg draw 0-0 in Turkey. Still reckon Sligo would have had a chance against that lot.
Soligosrk amazingly win 5-2 in Belgium against Zulte Waregem.
Maybe more amazingly (pending geysir telling us he knew it all along...) Stjarnan beat Lech Poznan 1-0.
Another victory clocked up for Stjarnan (The Stars), unbeaten in almost a year now. Poznan were a few steps up the ladder from Motherwell. Only 850 tickets went on sale for the home fans with 150 for the visitors, it seems that the policy is to give a ticket to every fan who's on the away team's charter flight. Motherwell got near 200. Nevertheless there's plenty of scope to watch the game through the wide open fences.
This was a gritty, close down the midfield space exercise with the only goal coming from a goalkeeper's howler.
A good evening no doubt but the Motherwell game was differently special, the birth of a first child type thing.
Langhorne Slim's song has found a home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=see0phB2iyk
Fantastic video! I wonder if the Irish celebrate such a victory in Europe? doubtful :P
How is that ground fit for a 3rd round game but the Brandywell wouldn't have been?
I posted some info on the governing regulations and stadium category distinctions earlier in the thread here: http://foot.ie/threads/190188-League...=1#post1768151Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
Obviously, it fulfills certain specified criteria that the Brandywell doesn't.
I know that it woudn't but that ground capacity wise would barely be category 2 never mind category 3. Just seems that we adhere to the rules more that other Countries. TNS springs to mind as a ground that wasn't fit to hold a CL qualifier.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Everyone adheres to the rules. There's no choice in the matter. Exceptions can be granted by UEFA, but clubs must appeal for such. I'm not sure, but perhaps that was the case with Stjarnan. TNS might have played Bohs in the second qualifying round of the Champions League a few years ago at their home stadium in Oswestry, but it wasn't suitable for the third round qualifier against Anderlecht. The home fixture in that tie was played at the Racecourse Ground in Wrexham.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
I'm fairly sure that it is the national associations - not the clubs - that apply for exceptions, and that any exceptions granted apply to all clubs within that association.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Perhaps you're right. I'm open to correction.
To use a well-known example though, did Celtic not apply themselves to play in Murrayfield before moving back to Celtic Park? Or did the SFA apply on their behalf? In what sense would the exception granted to Celtic to play their early games in Murrayfield and later games back in Celtic Park apply to all clubs within the association? Or are you referring to the relaxation of infrastructural stipulations alone?
Not that Celtic look likely to progress much further anyway!
Obviously, adherence to the regulations is a condition of participation. If it was the case that any exceptions granted are done on a general associational (rather than club-specific) basis, however, I would imagine the fact that we have stadia within the territory of the FAI capable of fulfilling all the criteria would weaken any Irish bargaining power, if you will.
Budget is hardly irrelevant, if it is then why do you say that given €30 million Pats would be able to compete at that level ? Of course Legia were better. They've every right to be given the amount of money that they have to spend compared to Pats. Teams with bigger budgets will always be more successful than those with less money, though one off shocks can happen at times. That's what Pats were hoping against hope for against Legia, and the first leg did give us a glimmer of hope, but you're right they were always favourites, even after the first leg. And it must be borne in mind the circumstances of the 5-0. Pats defence was decimated in the last 20minutes and that's when the extra goals went in. Pats wouldn't have won with a full defence out, but it wouldn't have been 5 goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Just getting a chance to check the regulations now and there's this in article 13.02 of the current Europa League rule-book:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
The Champions League regulations state the very same.Quote:
Originally Posted by UEFA
It doesn't exactly specify whether or not a request for exemption should come from a club or its governing association, but it does seem to indicate that exceptions are granted on a match-specific basis. Wouldn't that imply then that any decision would not apply across the board to all clubs competing under a shared association?
This article from October last year furthermore suggests it is the clubs who appeal to UEFA themselves: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24758149
Or, at least Celtic were in direct discussion with UEFA anyway about finding an alternative to Celtic Park whilst it was being used for the Commonwealth Games.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC
Aggregate result: Legia 6 Celtic 1. Exactly the same as the Legia-Pats tie. But that one would have been 3-1 but for all four selected defenders for Pats suffering injuries (one of whom had to play out the last few minutes while unable to run).
The barstoolers had a right go at Pats over the result, but tonight's result puts it into context (as does the quote today from a Legia player that Pats were better tan Celtic as far as Legia could see).
If you really believe that, you're on some good sh*t...
Celtic are cack currently, but 99 times out of a 100 they'd beat any LOI team.
I don't believe he did say that Pat's were better than Celtic, he said that a Legia player had said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
This is the article in question
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...69535968_n.jpg
Yeah, saw that. Maybe they were. If so, fair play...
But their records in Europe in the last 30-40 years are not exactly comparable.
All I am saying is that St Pats performed better against Legia than Celtic did. That reflects how they stand rignt now, nothing to do with the last 30-40 years.
Er, in one game each, away in Warsaw. And their overall 'performances' were both pretty poor, each losing 1-6 on aggregate!