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Originally Posted by harleyleeds
titles wide open at moment and i feel ukranians are beatable what dont u understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyCakes
What I don't understand is your certainty that we (Yes, I'm a Sligo Rovers fan) "will beat the Ukrainians home and away". What exactly is this based on? What can you tell us about them? Who are their key players? their strengths and weaknesses?
Time will tell if bringing in a couple of new players now pays off. It is only a couple of players though and our crowds are up and sponsorship streams seem steady. There's also a lot of fundraisers happening.
That said, if we do run into trouble it makes us even bigger imbeciles than those who went before us.
The letting go of Packie Lynch was a mistake imo.
cant tell u anything about them , all i see is there euro record isnt good,they are having legal problems and they only beat a holiday team 2-0 (Glens). Sligo Rovers are at the moment playing their best of season while Ukranians lost opener. Now I obviously realise that nothing is certain but i feel confident of the win. ps dont you have confidence in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyCakes
Beating any team 2-0 away in the Europa League qualifiers in nothing to be sniffed at, especially when you've travelled the length of Europe to play.
Its only my opinion but I disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm confident that Rovers will a good account of themselves, and you never know what can happen, but the fact is that its a team from the country ranked 8th in Europe at the moment playing one from the 33rd. Fulham "only" won by 2 goals in the North the other night, so that's a red herring. And talk of poor euro records goes out the window somewhat when Vllaznia Shkoder get brought into the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
I accept all your points however I still feel its ours and stats backing me up or not I will continue to enjoy the feeling until we lose. Then I will come back down. In the meantime Im going to see what I can do to help organise the NYC contingent of Rovers fans to try and add to the brilliant fundraising work being done by the fans there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyCakes
If we weren't going out and signing Conor Powell and still actively chasing Boco then I don't think the fans of any club would have a problem with what's going on. It would strike of a team having a bit of difficulty paying for a long trip across Europe. But the fact is that we're sacking commercial managers while bringing in highly paid players and then asking for season ticket holders to fork our more money on top of the few hundred euros they forked out at the start of the season as well as the €25 that had to be paid to go to the home European game. That doesn't sound good and with so much precedence out there for LOI clubs spending what they don't have (and their fans saying "there's nothing to see here" while it's being pointed out to them) I think it's right for fans of other clubs to be worried about the way we're going about things. I certainly am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Star
Yes I would love it if we won the league but if it puts us into the same situation that some of the other clubs have found themselves then I'll give it a miss.
YOu disagree that away wins in Europe are tough? LOI teams have only won both legs of a European tie 14 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
2 years ago Sligo lost at home and drew away wtih an Albanian team. now you think you'll win home & away against a Ukrainian team?
You are talking so much rubbish here its not funny. The club are not asking the season ticket holders to pay in to the pats game. This is purely a fans initiative, if you dont want to do it then dont, no obilgation. The reason for it is to help the club because we have a team worth supporting, have had to pay 50K to hold the game in sligo only to be given a tough draw. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
There is always one.
statistics can be twisted to suit anything. Pats and Bohs are ranked higher than both Rovers for example. 2 years ago means nothing today . I disagree that 2-0 was a good win against micky mouse opposition thats all nothing more. As quoted earlier me thinking it doesnt make it so but yes i think that. I will enjoy the period up to and hopefully the time after the games instead of thinking were no good so really why bothe like some pessimists. The way the Rovers fans are getting behind their club (fundraising and helping bring Showgies up to standard) is a credit to them and an example to others and will inspire the team in this euro campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
But it is something more. You used the 2-0 victory to argue that "Sligo Rovers will beat the Ukranians home and away."Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
No I didnt I mearly pointed out that it doesnt flatter them. nothing more. The home and away thing was just an off the cuff comment although as I did say earlier a quick away goal and well who knows and I do genuinley beleive we will win in Showgrounds.
ps Im not arguing anything just offering my feelings twoards the games.
Aren't sligo fan owned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie Dean
The only statistics I used are wins and losses. You know, the ones that matterQuote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
But it shows how unrealistic your feelings are if you just casually dismiss other teams like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
You're right about the club not asking season ticket holders to pay in at the weekend. And on everything else I said "there's nothing to see here then" obviously. I hope you're right on that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie Dean
I think you'll see a rather higher score than "only 2-0" in their home leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
do you mean the Glens team cos I didnt casually dismiss any other team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
a game two years ago -----really. I get it you matter I dont no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Football fan in outlandishly confident claim on an internet forum shocker!
Really worth 2 pages of debate lads?
didnt seem to stop your smart comment though stu.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
" The home and away thing was just an off the cuff comment although as I did say earlier a quick away goal and well who knows and I do genuinley beleive we will win in Showgrounds."
hardly outlandish unless it was BOHS i was on about.
i was actually defending your right as a football fan to make outlandishly confident claims about your team.
And the Ukrainian team, whose achievement in beating Glentoran 2-0 away hasn't been matched by any LOI side in recent years (to the best of my recollection).Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyleeds
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
were not half the team away on hols?
No. Two players I think.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Glentoran v FC Vorskla Poltava
Published on Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:10
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http://glentoran.com/cache/multithum...-poltava-h.pngGlentoran will again have to contend without several key players as they prepare to continue their Europa League adventure tomorrow evening against FC Vorksla Poltova of the Ukraine.
The main area of concern for manager Scott Young is the centre of his defence - skipper Colin Nixon is missing after being booked in both ties with Renova in the previous round and his natural replacement Johnny Taylor will also miss out after he too collected 2 yellows whilst filling in at right-back against the Macedonian‘s.
To add to the headache, vice Captain Sean Ward is out of the country for the next couple of weeks so it is likely that midfielder David Howland - who performed so admirably as a makeshift central defender in last seasons County Antrim Shield final victory against Linfield - will again have to fill that role alongside highly rated youngster Calum Birney, who will make his first start for the Club if selected. Young is, however, boosted by the return of his first choice right back Jamie McGovern after suspension and he will definitely return to the side, with Aidan O’Kane again filling the left-back spot.
Aaron Hogg will continue in goal after his penalty saving debut heroics last week and with Elliot Morris still missing after his red card in Skopje.
In midfield, Richard Clarke will be missing as he is currently on honeymoon. Jimmy Callacher is still missing with the injury he picked up against Bangor, Ciaran Martyn is also a couple of weeks away from a possible return and, as mentioned, David Howland will be required in defence. It is likely that Jason Hill will again take up a role in central midfield - where he performed superbly for much of the Renova game last week - alongside Kyle Cherry and either Martin Murray or Stephen Carson will be introduced in the place of Clarke.
Finally in the forward department, Young will select from Andy Waterworth, Darren Boyce and Richard Gibson after the announcement this week that Matty Burrows will be leaving the Club to start a new life in Spain. Supporters will however be given the opportunity to say goodbye to Matty tomorrow evening as a mark of gratitude for his contribution to the club over the last couple of years.
Vorskla, who hail from the small city of Poltova in central Ukraine, will be a stronger opponent than Renova - having won their Domestic Cup competition as recently as 2 years ago (when they defeated Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0) and finishing in 6th place in the country’s 16 team Premier Division last term. The squad, managed by Mykola Pavlov since 2007 and captained by goalkeeper Serhiy Dolhansky, boasts full international’s from Albania and Serbia (in addition to those who have been selected for the Ukraine) and reached the play-off stage of the Europa League in 2009.
That appears to confirm that it was two players on holiday.
jesus H - its not even the off-season!!
Glentoran will again have to contend without several key players as they prepare to continue their Europa League adventure tomorrow evening against FC Vorksla Poltova of the Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
yep your right, full team, appologies to the Ukranians and congrats on their stunning win against such magnificant opposition. Doesnt look good for Sligo Rovers after all. Hopefully they will still have a chance in the league and hey if they just forfeit they could save themselves from embarassment and financial ruin. Still my comments of admiration twoards the Sligo Rovers fans stand and considering they have possibly the smallest population catchment area in the PD they can well be described as the leagues best.
Good luck to Shamrock Rovers tomorrow night! I think they'll get through. Prediction: 1-1 draw.
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Originally Posted by harleyleeds
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
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Originally Posted by legendz
I will certainly be hoping they get through.
Ah here, that argument just doesn't stand up. Be honest about it. I'm not saying Harleyleeds is right but think of the population densities in the catchments you mention and the difference then to Tallaght, Derry, Cork or Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Bit different travelling to a game from Castlebar to Sligo than from, say, dundrum to Tallaght.
In fairness Mayo has some of the densest population in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Is there anyone in Roscommon?Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Is there anything in Roscommon?
Think they have a really good hospital, people are always going on about itQuote:
Originally Posted by dfx-
Is there a direct bus from Dundrum?Quote:
Originally Posted by dong
Yeah, the seventy-fi... hey!