Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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19/10/2009, 11:08 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Thanks, actually enjoyed that!

we should have a who punched tom the most competition i did 200:D
20/10/2009, 1:40 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by micls

I can understand that, but I know our membership has no interest in anything else, now anyway.

After the last 2 years, we'd also lose a lot of core support if people didnt perceive it to be the same club.

Micls - I've asked you (or another Cork fan on here anyway) this before.

If Cork had to do a Limerick - i.e. be called something random for 5mins whilst the club gets wrestled off of Coughlan, before changing itself back to CCFC - then what would be the issue with that ? :confused:
20/10/2009, 9:59 AM
RoversHead

AFC and then drop the A whenever. Cork City AFC OR AFC Cork City as DCFCSTE said the A can be dropped 5 minutes after the carpet bagger is gone.
20/10/2009, 10:28 AM
brianw82

RTE now says that if the money isn't in the players' accounts by 4pm, they won't travel. But, surely they'd already have to be on the road by that time?:confused:
20/10/2009, 10:28 AM
tallaghtfornia

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Originally Posted by micls

A week? Where'd you get a week from? :confused: someone could have sent him money Friday like

They gave strike notice 1 WEEK ago and they are still standing around less than 2 hours until this deadline (which was moved) and you think Coughlan might be waiting for money to be transferred??

I, under no circumstances want Cork to strike as I want Rovers to have a go at winning this league without any walkover, asterix, or points deduction.
20/10/2009, 10:32 AM
tallaghtfornia

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Originally Posted by brianw82

RTE now says that if the money isn't in the players' accounts by 4pm, they won't travel. But, surely they'd already have to be on the road by that time?:confused:

This is getting beyond a joke, nobody can find Coughlan and the deadlines mean sod all. Would CCFC not need to give more notice to the FAI/Rovers if they were not gonna play tonight instead of leaving it until 4pm to decide??
20/10/2009, 10:33 AM
Celdrog

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Originally Posted by tiktok

The Trust established a hardship fund in association with the PFAI, that's there to provide bridging loans to players who need it.

Has there been much a take up on this?
20/10/2009, 10:36 AM
White Horse

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Originally Posted by tallaghtfornia

This is getting beyond a joke, nobody can find Coughlan and the deadlines mean sod all. Would CCFC not need to give more notice to the FAI/Rovers if they were not gonna play tonight instead of leaving it until 4pm to decide??

I was talking last night to a Rovers fan who is exiled in London thanks for our government.

He had saved up for a couple of Rovers run-in games.

Will Cork City or the FAI compensate him if City don't turn up?
20/10/2009, 10:42 AM
tallaghtfornia

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Originally Posted by White Horse

I was talking last night to a Rovers fan who is exiled in London thanks for our government.

He had saved up for a couple of Rovers run-in games.

Will Cork City or the FAI compensate him if City don't turn up?

Im sure Rovers could try bring action against CCFC for not turning up and costing them money but whats the point.
20/10/2009, 10:47 AM
tallaghtfornia

Word is the players have been paid and will travel
20/10/2009, 10:47 AM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by tallaghtfornia

Im sure Rovers could try bring action against CCFC for not turning up and costing them money but whats the point.

Could we bring an action against them for possibly costing us the league?
20/10/2009, 10:48 AM
Nedser

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

So that would mean them not fulfilling the Rovers game tomorrow up in Tallaght?

If so - and the FAI apply their rules correctly - then Rovers will be handed a 3-0 win.

Interesting times indeed

Or here's an even more interesting scenario - Cork are wound up/withdraw from the league, and all games involving them this season are declared null and void (as I believe happened when Dublin City disbanded mid season). This would mean all teams would lose the points they have taken off Cork so far this season. Bohs would lose 9 points, while SRFC would lose only 3. League title effectively decided, and the League of Ireland descends to an unprecedented level of farce.
20/10/2009, 11:06 AM
HulaHoop

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Originally Posted by sonofstan

Could we bring an action against them for possibly costing us the league?

Sure Cork practicaly rolled over for you last Friday too. If Rovers go on to win the league, it's not Cork that's to blame. it will be entirely your own fault for throwing away the 8 point lead you had not long ago.
20/10/2009, 11:17 AM
Mr A

So TNB pulls another rabbit from the hat and the circus rolls on. Better for the league I guess, at least in the short term.
20/10/2009, 11:31 AM
centre mid

Frank And Irene step in ?
20/10/2009, 11:35 AM
Ash

Whatever about Cork City to be wound up I find this entire thing to be a wind
up. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but every week it seems to be

1. Cork players not paid
2. Cork players threaten strike of deadline not met
3. Night before deadline, TNB asks for extension
4. Players extend deadline
5. Go back to 1.

Now maybe I am reading it wrong but if not the players should either **** or get off the pot
20/10/2009, 11:53 AM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

Sure Cork practicaly rolled over for you last Friday too. If Rovers go on to win the league, it's not Cork that's to blame. it will be entirely your own fault for throwing away the 8 point lead you had not long ago.

I do know that.
20/10/2009, 12:11 PM
micls

It's not confirmed that they've been paid, the game is still in doubt apparently.
20/10/2009, 12:14 PM
micls

Latest: Players have boarded the bus at Silversprings.....they were given bank drafts by a club representative according to Billy Barry on 96FM - he and other media were at Silversprings.
20/10/2009, 12:18 PM
Sicuani

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Originally Posted by micls

Latest: Players have boarded the bus at Silversprings.....they were given bank drafts by a club representative according to Billy Barry on 96FM - he and other media were at Silversprings.

Yes, but the drafts are from the DSB Bank...players should really keep an eye on the Financial news...:rolleyes:
20/10/2009, 12:25 PM
RoversHead

Match on and rumour has it FAI have payed players.
20/10/2009, 12:28 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by brianw82

RTE now says that if the money isn't in the players' accounts by 4pm, they won't travel. But, surely they'd already have to be on the road by that time?:confused:

Sure it'd take until then for the bus man to be paid anyway.
20/10/2009, 12:35 PM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by RoversHead

Match on and rumour has it FAI have payed players.

This would seem to point to an obvious interim solution to the issue: the FAI should take over the running of the club until the last day of the season to ensure that Cork's problems don't affect other clubs with regard to league placings - not only who wins the league, but who is relegated.
20/10/2009, 12:42 PM
micls

Danny Murphy is not on the bus apparently.

Was paid by cheque, so got off and is gone to the bank with McGuinness.

Presumably, if it bounces the bus will return to Cork, if it clears McGuinness will probably bring him up
20/10/2009, 12:44 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by micls

Danny Murphy is not on the bus apparently.

Was paid by cheque, so got off and is gone to the bank with McGuinness.

Imagine the panic if when they get to the bank - the cheques won't process correctly - Murphy gets on the phone to the rest of the players on the bus - bus goes no further
20/10/2009, 12:50 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Imagine the panic if when they get to the bank - the cheques won't process correctly - Murphy gets on the phone to the rest of the players on the bus - bus goes no further

If the rest of them were paid by bank drafts, as has been claimed a few posts back, the rest of them are as good as paid. You have to buy a draft - the money is there. Of course, they might still refuse to play if Murphy hasn't been paid.
20/10/2009, 12:53 PM
micls

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. Of course, they might still refuse to play if Murphy hasn't been paid.

They'd have to. They'd lose all respect if they played when one of them wasn't paid.
20/10/2009, 1:00 PM
blackholesun

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Originally Posted by micls

They'd have to. They'd lose all respect if they played when one of them wasn't paid.

They could all decide to have a collection from their wages to pay his!

Is there a fit and proper persons test for directors?

I think at the end of the season, the FAI should refuse Cork City FC a license to play in the premier next season under Coughlan and lets FORAS pick up the pieces as Cork City AFC or whatever in the A-league and rebuild.

bhs
20/10/2009, 1:01 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by micls

They'd have to. They'd lose all respect if they played when one of them wasn't paid.

I would hope so. Not sure how that stands legally though, regarding strike notice and all that lark.

Actually, it just occurred to me, surely Murphy won't know if the cheque will bounce for a few days yet?
20/10/2009, 1:02 PM
placid casual

There's a TV movie in all of this.
farcical.
20/10/2009, 1:02 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by blackholesun

Is there a fit and proper persons test for directors?

No.

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I think at the end of the season, the FAI should refuse Cork City FC a license to play in the premier next season under Coughlan and lets FORAS pick up the pieces as Cork City AFC or whatever in the A-league and rebuild.

bhs

It's quite possible that this is what will happen. It's difficult to believe Cork could possibly meet all of the criteria as it stands.
20/10/2009, 1:03 PM
RoversHead

Can anyone confirm that this is FAI money?while I have no issue with players in this situation getting money from the FAI, I do have an issue with FAI paying wages on behalf of CCFC.
20/10/2009, 1:05 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by John83

I would hope so. Not sure how that stands legally though, regarding strike notice and all that lark.

Actually, it just occurred to me, surely Murphy won't know if the cheque will bounce for a few days yet?

Strike notice has been given if all of them werent paid.
20/10/2009, 1:05 PM
Macy

If Murphy's cheque doesn't clear and the rest of the players play, they deserve whatever happens come next pay day (which is after the end of the season).

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Originally Posted by John83

Actually, it just occurred to me, surely Murphy won't know if the cheque will bounce for a few days yet?

If you take a cheque to the issuing branch they should clear it/ cash it there and then afaik.
20/10/2009, 1:10 PM
Mr A

Murphy on the way to Dublin according to CCFC forum.
20/10/2009, 1:11 PM
shep

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Originally Posted by Macy

If Murphy's cheque doesn't clear and the rest of the players play, they deserve whatever happens come next pay day (which is after the end of the season).

If you take a cheque to the issuing branch they should clear it/ cash it there and then afaik.

If its a bank draft it cannot be cancelled unless lost or stolen,however it cannot be cashed as all drafts are crossed and account payee only,which means in some cases players may have to wait until it clears
20/10/2009, 1:48 PM
Macy

As reported on the News at One, all players except Murphy were paid by bank draft, which is as good as cash. Murphy was paid by cheque, and understandable enough he wanted to check it wasn't made of rubber.
20/10/2009, 1:53 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

If Cork had to do a Limerick - i.e. be called something random for 5mins whilst the club gets wrestled off of Coughlan, before changing itself back to CCFC - then what would be the issue with that ? :confused:

I was wondering this myself. In fact, if the name change was portrayed as the only way not to have to form a new club but just as a way to get rid of TNB, then I can't see what the problem is.
20/10/2009, 2:09 PM
CMcC

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Originally Posted by Macy

As reported on the News at One, all players except Murphy were paid by bank draft, which is as good as cash. Murphy was paid by cheque, and understandable enough he wanted to check it wasn't made of rubber.

Hope the locks on the dressing rooms in Tallaght are working and strong;)
20/10/2009, 2:10 PM
Raheen

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Originally Posted by shep

If its a bank draft it cannot be cancelled unless lost or stolen,however it cannot be cashed as all drafts are crossed and account payee only,which means in some cases players may have to wait until it clears

By definition, a bank draft doesn't need to clear, once lodged, the money is in the account. Different banks have different rules on how they are handled but for safety reasons they have to be lodged into the payee account.

A cheque on the otherhand can take time, especially if other cheques are coming and going from drawers account.

If the players received a bank draft they are paid. Better very late than never..

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