Well I think Busquets' miss last night pretty much summed him up in terms of attacking flair. I wouldn't have wagered much on Makelele scoring it either though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Well I think Busquets' miss last night pretty much summed him up in terms of attacking flair. I wouldn't have wagered much on Makelele scoring it either though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I wouldn't associate flair with that miss at all, it was just the fact he's not used to being in that situation and for whatever reason he didn't have the composure to do it. If that was a pass flying at him in midfield you'd think he'd be able to put it wherever he wanted on the field.
Yeah, it was. Gerrard flicks on for Suarez thus negating the latter being three yards off. I think he might have given it away in the lead up their first also. Ouch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Ha. I still dont get it. Gerard gave suarez the ball?
So I believe Crosby, so I believe. And with a backward head pass, no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
He was trying to head it clear but he got under the ball and accidentally headed it on for Suarez to run in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
England were gonna get trounced that day if Paul McGrath and Lilian Thuram were in defence. It had "one of those days" written all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I honestly wasn't doing a like-for-like comparisoon. But it is one of the things about Barca that they have such dislikeable squad members like Busquets and Pedro that make them so hard to like even before you get into a discussion about the way they play.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
As above.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I wasn't being altogether serious using those examples but you do have a point about team flair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
But there are things like the sponsorship scenario and the battering of "Mes que un club" down the throat of European soccer fans that also makes me dislike them. I also have a contrary streak in me which you may or may not have noticed.
He did. Which made his comments to ITV at the end more laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
I think I finally get it.
Things are finally heating up. Anyone pm me betting for Friday?
What's to dislike about Pedro? Apart from looking like a middle-aged shoe salesman, he's a limited enough player who has made it at a big club because he works harder and is more disciplined than most, and he scores goals. I'd have a lot of time for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I think the problem with Barcelona is that, although really are just like any other football team, they sometimes get portrayed as pure, noble artisans of football, by some fairly gullible people.
I say that as somebody who loved their style and was saddened by their decline.
I hate him. Like really truly. There is no real sense to the urge to kick his teeth in I feel when I see his mug.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Maybe that Quebecer last week was right, I should let go of the anger!
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Originally Posted by osarusan
Yay eloquence! Thank you!
Karma...in different forms.
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It wasn't just flair though, it was attacking flair. I'd expect a guy who excels in the attacking flair department to put that one away. He was seemingly being compared to Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo at the time after all. I was just loosely making the point that that's not really his function in the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Sorry, just saw replay. It was a punt from hands, not a goal kick. Doesn't diminish the enjoyment though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Exactly and for every team at these Finals there are the travelling fans, the fans at home and usually a world cup fever. There isn't any bigger collective show on the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
The same consideration applies to Greece as to us and even if their game last night with Japan did not meet standards of other teams, one goal from either would have transformed a country's mood. If only we had a midfielder like Karagounis for the past 12 years. As long as teams have a viable chance of going through, there is that magic world cup thing alive in the game, football quality is only one of the ingredients.
Another game denigrated, Iran v Nigeria, was actually played in a brilliant atmosphere and it was something to see how a very disciplined Iran were organised to survive.
Neil Lennon made a good point after that game. It may have been boring for us but try telling that to Iran. They worked hard to get what they wanted. Fair play to them.
It's vintage Dunphy. Attack the manager by talking up those not in the team. If England had lost with Terry and Cole in the team, it would have been how could the manager not have played the in form Baines and Jagielka. C'est la panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
England were beaten by Trap tactics. Harry and hoof, except Uruguay have a world class centre forward. England dominated possession and if the Rooney of old had been on song, England would have won it. Hopefully, Italy win tonight so we have an exciting last round of games.
That isn't a problem with Barca, that's an issue with some ott perceptions,Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
the problem is then with the reaction to those ott perceptions, usually marked by irrational dislikes, reactionary rants, lumping every body who appreciate Spanish football into the same mindless sheep box and who read the Guardian (as if that was an insult).
Most supporters think their club is something special, that's a universal phenomenon and when they actually do something special it demands appreciation in the wider world, that appreciation is earned. Reactionaries just react.
Ouch that hurt:pQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir