Lansdowne Road Redevelopment Thread

How cunning of the architects.

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Originally Posted by Paulie

On the down side, getting tickets for some of the away games will be a right pain.

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How many away games would we have trouble? Montenegro was the only away game in this campaign that we nearly filled our allocation. There was loads of room in Bari, there were no home fans in Cyprus and we didn't sell our allocation for Bulgaria or Georgia.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

How cunning of the architects.

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The residents in Havelock Square are geniuses. :)

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Originally Posted by Schumi;

How many away games would we have trouble? Montenegro was the only away game in this campaign that we nearly filled our allocation. There was loads of room in Bari, there were no home fans in Cyprus and we didn't sell our allocation for Bulgaria or Georgia.

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Maybe not this campaign Schumi but draw say a Swedan, Germany and a Macedonia and we could well struggle with 5 % allocation through a combination of small grounds and the glamourous fixture

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

Maybe not this campaign Schumi but draw say a Swedan, Germany and a Macedonia and we could well struggle with 5 % allocation through a combination of small grounds and the glamourous fixture

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basle 2003 and holland wc 1990 was the only time i watched Ireland play away in a full stadium

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

basle 2003 and holland wc 1990 was the only time i watched Ireland play away in a full stadium

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All games in Japan 02 were soldout although there were tickets outside in Niigata and Ibaraki. All the group games were soldout for USA94 albeit tickets outside all 3. Wembley 91 was totally soldout and tickets were a big problem. Denmark 92 was a problem in advance but not on the night - still full though.

5% will be a big problem if we get Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Holland, Turkey or Germany. If we get a key away game at the end aka Basle 03 it will be a huge problem.

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Originally Posted by gspain

All games in Japan 02 were soldout although there were tickets outside in Niigata and Ibaraki. All the group games were soldout for USA94 albeit tickets outside all 3. Wembley 91 was totally soldout and tickets were a big problem. Denmark 92 was a problem in advance but not on the night - still full though.

5% will be a big problem if we get Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Holland, Turkey or Germany. If we get a key away game at the end aka Basle 03 it will be a huge problem.

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Was Holland at Anfield in '95 not sold out too?

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Originally Posted by gspain

5% will be a big problem if we get Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Holland, Turkey or Germany. If we get a key away game at the end aka Basle 03 it will be a huge problem.

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If we can get 35000 into Stade de France, we can get 10% of that into most of the others, if needed....

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Originally Posted by gspain

All games in Japan 02 were soldout although there were tickets outside in Niigata and Ibaraki. All the group games were soldout for USA94 albeit tickets outside all 3. Wembley 91 was totally soldout and tickets were a big problem. Denmark 92 was a problem in advance but not on the night - still full though.

5% will be a big problem if we get Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Holland, Turkey or Germany. If we get a key away game at the end aka Basle 03 it will be a huge problem.

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there were empty seats at all Irelands matches at WC 2002. no Irish fan went without a ticket was the essence of my point. i wasnt at wc 1994 but i heard that again no Irish fan went without a ticket

id say its likely that the FAI will do a deal with other nations such as that done between holland and scotland in this campaign when they allocated more than the stipulated % to each other for the away matches

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

there were empty seats at all Irelands matches at WC 2002. no Irish fan went without a ticket was the essence of my point. i wasnt at wc 1994 but i heard that again no Irish fan went without a ticket

id say its likely that the FAI will do a deal with other nations such as that done between holland and scotland in this campaign when they allocated more than the stipulated % to each other for the away matches

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I now what your saying JB but how can the FAI in theory do a deal when all the home seats at LR are BB's /Vantage club (although the Vantage club will be flexible given its uptake.)

There arent that many countries that travel in great numbers.

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

If we can get 35000 into Stade de France, we can get 10% of that into most of the others, if needed....

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Stade de France was an exception as we could get tickets through the french equivalent of Ticketmaster. Same with Stuttgart 06 for a while before they stopped delivering to non german adresses. But at the time there were lots looking for tickets although the majority appear to get sorted.

My main concern would be the scandanavian countries with relatively small grounds which are well attended by home fans

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Originally Posted by Newryrep

I now what your saying JB but how can the FAI in theory do a deal when all the home seats at LR are BB's /Vantage club (although the Vantage club will be flexible given its uptake.)

There arent that many countries that travel in great numbers.

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they may not sell the north stand to bbs thus leaving maybe 5,000 available for away fans should they need to do a deal

Cant say im a huge fan of the havelock square end, maybe when its done ill like it. The rest of the stadium looks class though, more much tidy and compact than Croker from our perspective. Atmosphere should be unreal, cant wait to go back.

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

there were empty seats at all Irelands matches at WC 2002. no Irish fan went without a ticket was the essence of my point. i wasnt at wc 1994 but i heard that again no Irish fan went without a ticket

id say its likely that the FAI will do a deal with other nations such as that done between holland and scotland in this campaign when they allocated more than the stipulated % to each other for the away matches

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Re 1994,
On the day yes but loads didn't travel for the Italy game as there was nothing moving. 2 mates at ten qualifiers missed it. I was at all 12 qualifiers and only got a ticket by chance. Many watched Italy at home and want straight to Orlando then for Mexico. Tickets weren't easy for those either but were available on the day.

Re 2002 there were loads locked out of the Saudi game. There were no tickets outside even at inflated prices as we were trying for a couple of people and they never got in.

The Olympics are an extreme example here as friends have gone to events with thousands locked out and almost empty stadiums inside. Even 15 minutes after kickoff they were pleading to get in but no joy.

Some countries won't need to do a deal as they won't have the away fans. Loads of Scotland fans locked out in Macedonia. France and Germany will hardly make the same mistake again. Scotland had ticket problems in Paris in 07 albeit in the smaller stadium. If Germany hadn't put our game on sale during the WC and posted to Ireland there would have been big problems for that too.

5% is way too little and will cause problems

FIFA and UEFA also have strict guidelines re segregation. Obviously FIFA rules don't apply to France (see seeding discussion) but smaller countries would be punished if there were large quantities of away fans in the home end. .

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Originally Posted by gspain

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Re 2002 there were loads locked out of the Saudi game. There were no tickets outside even at inflated prices as we were trying for a couple of people and they never got in.

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there was 65,000 at that game and the stadium holds over 70,000. lots of empty seats at the opposite end i was at. tickets were available at the ticket ctre in tokyo, i know cause we had to replace missing tickets

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

there was 65,000 at that game and the stadium holds over 70,000. lots of empty seats at the opposite end i was at. tickets were available at the ticket ctre in tokyo, i know cause we had to replace missing tickets

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There are often empty seats at WC matches because of sponsor tickets etc. There were loads locked out of the Saudi game in Yokohama. There may have been tickets in Tokyo but loads of people incl me didn't know about them. We had huge trouble getting in to Mexico v Ecuador in Myagi and there were loads of empty seats at that too.

Likewise many fans won't travel without a ticket particularly given the economy these days.

If we get to South Africa there won't be enough tickets from the FAI and FIFA for everyone that wants one. There will be loads out there I'm sure but some won't go on that basis.

Having different limits between FIFA and UEFA is a real pain when trying to configure a stadium too.

seems to be coming on great

http://www.lrsdc.ie/gallery/photocat...?PCID=34&NCID=

I know this has been mentioned before, probably wont affect us but for the rugby it does look at if the view will be someway obstructed when the ball goes up in the air if you are in the upper tier.

it was mentioned here a few times alright Elroy, the rumour is that the IRFU and FAI are forcing the architects to buy 10 year tickets for those seats

It looked pretty good from Ballsbridge as I stumbled along the last few miles of the Dublin Marathon on Monday. I was almost hallucinating at that stage though.

Still looks like the dart crossing is in the way, they really should have moved it underground. Anyone know if the crossing is going to stay in place? Its a disaster having to wait for the trains to pass.