John O'Shea

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08/04/2010, 1:12 AM
Charlie Darwin

Yeah, I'm not blaming him, he just looked a long way off the pace.
08/04/2010, 10:59 PM
yapster

I can't understand why Ferguson played him at all, an unfit O'Shea is even more a liability than a fit O'Shea.
08/04/2010, 11:07 PM
Razors left peg

I came across a saying recently that I must put into use.... never argue with idiots, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
09/04/2010, 1:34 AM
yapster

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.
09/04/2010, 1:37 AM
Predator

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Originally Posted by yapster

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

Well, he's made a good career for himself at one of the world's top clubs and has proven to be an important player for us. Fair play John O'!
09/04/2010, 1:52 AM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by yapster

O'Shea I'm afraid will never fulfill his potential as a footballer at this stage. I think he doesn't have the hardness that is required in good players.

What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?
09/04/2010, 1:55 AM
Charlie Darwin

John O'Shea isn't a patch on Messi.
09/04/2010, 2:01 AM
yapster

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

What heights would he have needed to have reached by this point for you to consider him as having fulfilled his potential? I thought last season, with pretty-much a permanent first-team place in the United team and working with Trap on the international stage, was a defining or coming-of-age season for O'Shea. I admit, he was someone I had always doubted previously, maybe somewhat harshly at times, but he proved me wrong last season and now, rather than harbour anxiety and apprehension when I see him lining out for Ireland, I actually feel more secure with him in the starting line-up. Since when did being a hard man make a good player?

I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.
09/04/2010, 2:06 AM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by yapster

I just think he lacks a certain toughness in him thats all. Yes he had his best season last year but he still is a way off the player he should be.

Which is where?
09/04/2010, 8:04 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Which is where?

He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait
09/04/2010, 8:41 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

He should at this stage of his career be a regular for his club, winning leagues and european cups and be a vital player for his national team........ oh wait

A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.
09/04/2010, 8:49 PM
SkStu

just not true.
09/04/2010, 10:04 PM
EastTerracer

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Originally Posted by SkStu

just not true.

surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.
09/04/2010, 11:12 PM
irishfan86

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Originally Posted by yapster

A vital player in one of the worst Irish squads ever.. A glorified sub at United for years.

I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.
09/04/2010, 11:19 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by EastTerracer

surely that doesn't surprise you. The WUM has a history of playing loose with the truth.

whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.
09/04/2010, 11:25 PM
Acornvilla

i'm sure he has a nice pile of infractions by now.. hopefully he will go away eventually johns a legend
10/04/2010, 7:02 AM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

I'm not sure if it was last year's title winning season, or the season before that, but John O'Shea played more minutes than any other United player during one of those title winning seasons.

You're a joke.

I think it was last season.As far as I know only Ronaldo started more games that season. United have missed him badly this season with Brown,Neville and Rafael all struggling in the right back position
11/04/2010, 10:41 PM
yapster

I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.
13/04/2010, 8:52 AM
ShamrockIreland

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Originally Posted by SkStu

whats surprised me really is that he is still allowed to post here despite me reporting the relevant posts.

I run an Irish board, and I act upon the posts,pictures myself.I certainly would not look at someones complaint especially if he had a Bohs(1-0) crest beside his name(That was a joke). Yapster has come over here from my board, but he does love his role. When he gets bored here he'll come home to annoy some more folk up over there. I think though he really does believe what he is saying is true.
13/04/2010, 11:43 AM
livehead1

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Originally Posted by yapster

I just happen to think that O'Shea is not a composed and accomplised player thats all. He had such potential when he first came on the scene but he lacks confidence in himself I think to fullfill his potential.

I've seen him live in the Champions League on a number of occasions; he has always been very comfortable on the ball.
14/04/2010, 9:25 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by ShamrockIreland

I run an Irish board, and I act upon the posts,pictures myself.I certainly would not look at someones complaint especially if he had a Bohs(1-0) crest beside his name(That was a joke). Yapster has come over here from my board, but he does love his role. When he gets bored here he'll come home to annoy some more folk up over there. I think though he really does believe what he is saying is true.

You at least know that I have been consistent with my opinion on Keane and O�Shea down the years.
14/04/2010, 10:34 PM
Charlie Darwin

My God, you've been at this for years?
14/04/2010, 10:35 PM
Serb

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Originally Posted by yapster

You at least know that I have been consistent with my opinion on Keane and O�Shea down the years.

Consistently wrong.
15/04/2010, 7:39 PM
yapster

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Originally Posted by Serb

Consistently wrong.

no I'm afraid not son...
15/04/2010, 8:28 PM
Razors left peg

Cant imagine what CF1989 got banned for since it seems to be ok to come on here consistantly with the specific intention to p1ss off people
15/04/2010, 8:32 PM
Acornvilla

he posted penises :)
15/04/2010, 8:34 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by Acornvilla

he posted penises :)

down with that sort of thing :)
15/04/2010, 8:42 PM
Acornvilla

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

down with that sort of thing :)

careful now :)
15/04/2010, 9:01 PM
Razors left peg

Haha :)
16/04/2010, 8:47 PM
yapster

We got Father Ted finally over here on BBCAmerica and it is a great show. Why didn't RTE make it rather than C4?
16/04/2010, 9:33 PM
bluesfan

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Originally Posted by yapster

We got Father Ted finally over here on BBCAmerica and it is a great show. Why didn't RTE make it rather than C4?

Don't think it was ever offered to RTE. The two creators had already been living and working in England for a number of years when they came up with it.
17/04/2010, 1:02 AM
Acornvilla

it was originally offered to RTE but they didn't like it so C4 stole in and just as well i think if RTE made it, it wouldn't be as good
17/04/2010, 3:15 AM
Colbert Report

It was originally offered to RTE but they were dead scared of offending the religious right in Ireland so they passed on it. This is stated in the DVD commentary.
17/04/2010, 8:28 AM
bluesfan

Surprised at that, I'd always thought it was an urban legend about it being offered to RTE. Did the DVD commentary explain why they were going to come back to Ireland to make Father Ted? Mathews and Linehan were doing well in England at the time and returning here sounds like a backward career move.
17/04/2010, 11:20 AM
geysir

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Originally Posted by bluesfan

Don't think it was ever offered to RTE. The two creators had already been living and working in England for a number of years when they came up with it.

It was never rejected by RTE because it was never offered to them. Anything else is urban myth.
It was shown on RTE shortly after ch4 screening.
17/04/2010, 11:56 AM
Colbert Report

I'm not sure, I'll re-watch the DVD commentary and post here once I do, probably some time next week.
17/04/2010, 11:58 AM
Colbert Report

Perhaps I'm mistaken:

from wikipedia:

Contrary to frequent rumours, Mathews and Linehan did not originally pitch the series to the Irish network RT�, but rather offered it directly to Hat Trick Productions and Channel 4 in the UK.
17/04/2010, 12:38 PM
Serb

You can ask the man himself on Twitter :)

http://twitter.com/Glinner

Also, O'Shea is on the bench for United today, but sounds like Neville is having a nightmare at right back at the moment.
18/04/2010, 3:36 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by bluesfan

Surprised at that, I'd always thought it was an urban legend about it being offered to RTE. Did the DVD commentary explain why they were going to come back to Ireland to make Father Ted? Mathews and Linehan were doing well in England at the time and returning here sounds like a backward career move.

I've personally heard Linehan deny it was ever offered to RT�. He said they just didn't do that sort of thing; there'd have been no point. Now, maybe the official line has changed at some point, so check out that commentary all the same. If it disagrees, that'd be interesting.
14/09/2010, 7:46 PM
rebelmusic

Neville was crap at the weekend, and brown is fouling every 2 mins tonight, i'd say Josh is pretty much sorted for right back for the season. Defo best of the 3 (i am of course ignoring the little one)

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