Attendances 2022

We do like to jump on indiscretions by rival LoI crowds with lots of finger pointing but there has been damn all on the chants here that I can see. It hasnt seemed to register too much and its been the media that's doing the shouting. Rovers statement was a just in case pre-emptive damage limitation job and if their statement hadnt gone out Id not have known anything about it.

Low brow stuff probably but Im sure we have all heard a whole lot worse. 'What's it like to have a king' just doesnt have the same ring to it somehow...

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

It would be deemed political, I'd presume.

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I'd be intrigued to see how that would stick, given that the British royal family are expressly non-political

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Originally Posted by joey B

The Daily Mail were blaming Rovers fans for all the footy being off over the weekend so here anything is possible at this stage!!!

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Nonsense from the Daily Mail, and I can't see UEFA having any genuine interest in it - as again, I don't see what rule it would credibly be deemed to have broken.

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

there has been damn all on the chants here that I can see. It hasnt seemed to register too much and its been the media that's doing the shouting.

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It's been viewed on twitter 9.6M times... so far!
I doubt there's been a more viral thing that's happened in the LOI.

Lincoln City Fans don't like Rovers, do they?

Lincoln City :D;)

Nobody going to the Markets Field these times despite good run of form. Limerick has to be brought back in to the name.

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Originally Posted by Philosophizer

It's been viewed on twitter 9.6M times... so far!
I doubt there's been a more viral thing that's happened in the LOI.

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I just really wish it was our fault that the premier league shut down for the weekend. That'd be swell. Unfortunately it's all just performative outrage. But it's nice to outrage the people performing.

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

We do like to jump on indiscretions by rival LoI crowds with lots of finger pointing but there has been damn all on the chants here that I can see. It hasnt seemed to register too much and its been the media that's doing the shouting. Rovers statement was a just in case pre-emptive damage limitation job and if their statement hadnt gone out Id not have known anything about it.

Low brow stuff probably but Im sure we have all heard a whole lot worse. 'What's it like to have a king' just doesnt have the same ring to it somehow...

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The Rovers statement was a genuine apology for the crass stupidity of handful of morons…. Sometimes the right thing needs to be done and we did it…. As you say it was low brow stuff but still glad we live in a republic as against a constitutional monarchy that grants mega riches on individuals purely by accident of birth … interesting fact is that only the Vatican state has a larger collection of art work that the British Royal family

Also at start of the second half of the Zurich/Arsenal match last Thurs they held a minute silence and booing was clearly audible ( not sure from which set of fans )

The "United Kingdom" and Vatican must be the only States in Europe where the Head of State must be of a particular Religion!

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Originally Posted by oldfan

The "United Kingdom" and Vatican must be the only States in Europe where the Head of State must be of a particular Religion!

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Not strictly true. The only restrictions on ths British monarch is that they can't be a catholic. Though as they're head of the Church of England then it would be pretty strange if they were an active member of any other faith group.

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Originally Posted by oldfan

The "United Kingdom" and Vatican must be the only States in Europe where the Head of State must be of a particular Religion!

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"The Act of Succession of 1810 provides the rules governing the line of succession and designates the legitimate heirs to the Swedish Throne; it also states in article 4 that the Monarch and dynastic members of the Royal House must at all times be a Protestant Christian of the pure evangelical faith (by implication the Church of Sweden)."

Any attendance figure from the coronation ceremony this week? Can't imagine many away fans were permitted.

Galway have said away tickets are sold out. Assume something in the range of 500. Clearly we could bring more, and I'd imagine people will be looking for tickets for the rest of the week.

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Any attendance figure from the coronation ceremony this week? Can't imagine many away fans were permitted.

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Looks midweek with early KO so not too hopeful, although no PL games on a distraction so that might help.

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Originally Posted by El-Pietro

Galway have said away tickets are sold out. Assume something in the range of 500. Clearly we could bring more, and I'd imagine people will be looking for tickets for the rest of the week.

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Could city be presentated with the trophy up there?

With such things, usually standard practice to wait for the next home game, I'd have thought.

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Originally Posted by culloty82

With such things, usually standard practice to wait for the next home game, I'd have thought.

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Ah right, makes sense. I remember Rovers winning the league out in Bray, UCD and the first division down in Cobh - but they were all last matches I think.

Rough etimate of 3.2k at the Brandywell tonight.
Certainly didn't sell out, which is being a rarity this season.

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Any attendance figure from the coronation ceremony this week? Can't imagine many away fans were permitted.

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Down on the last one I heard. I blame the FAI and RTE for a lack of promotion on this.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

Rough etimate of 3.2k at the Brandywell tonight.
Certainly didn't sell out, which is being a rarity this season.

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Definitely looked about that.

Considering it was on a champions league night and Sligo brought very few fans (unlike them) it was a healthy attendance.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

Rough etimate of 3.2k at the Brandywell tonight.
Certainly didn't sell out, which is being a rarity this season.

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Do you think it would have sold out if it had been on a Friday instead of mid-week?

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Do you think it would have sold out if it had been on a Friday instead of mid-week?

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Absolutely. I think it was only Pat's on a Monday and a UCD game earlier in the year that haven't sold out.

Shows that we could be doing with having the Brandywell finished.

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Originally Posted by brendy_éire

Absolutely. I think it was only Pat's on a Monday and a UCD game earlier in the year that haven't sold out.

Shows that we could be doing with having the Brandywell finished.

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Would definitely be interesting to see what sort of crowds Derry would get if the stadium wasn't the limitation it is now.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Would definitely be interesting to see what sort of crowds Derry would get if the stadium wasn't the limitation it is now.

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The scramble for tickets for almost every game this season has been unheard off.

The cup game on Sunday could have sold out twice over easily (Already sold out) and as Brendy said only a few games haven't been sold out this season.

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

The scramble for tickets for almost every game this season has been unheard off.

The cup game on Sunday could have sold out twice over easily (Already sold out) and as Brendy said only a few games haven't been sold out this season.

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Any plans in the works to extend the new stand to what was in the original design?

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Originally Posted by ger121

Any plans in the works to extend the new stand to what was in the original design?

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Nothing Concrete anyway! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ger121

Any plans in the works to extend the new stand to what was in the original design?

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They're waiting on Stormont funding. And the SF Minister responsible there is holding the football money hostage until they get more for the Casement Park cost increases. So nothing of anything seems to be happening. We grumble about things down here, the Childrens' Hospital etc - but the north is a proper political basket case where nothing happens.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

They're waiting on Stormont funding. And the SF Minister responsible there is holding the football money hostage until they get more for the Casement Park cost increases. So nothing of anything seems to be happening. We grumble about things down here, the Childrens' Hospital etc - but the north is a proper political basket case where nothing happens.

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A few months back(?), I suggested that when the original £36m Sub-Regional Funding was first agreed, over a decade ago, Peter Robinson and Martin McGujinness had already (unofficially) earmarked £!0m of it each for The Oval (PR) and the Brandywell (MM).

And when I suggested that Derry & Strabane Council may have advanced £3m for Phase 1 of the Brandywell redevelopment, in anticipation of future Sub-Regional funding from Stormont, you poo-poohed the idea, on two counts:
1. Specifically that Stormont can't just disburse this money to a Council i.e. you were clearly unaware that the Council actually owned the Brandywell and so qualified; and
2. More generally, that "that's not how these things work" (paraphrasing).

Yet by your above comments in bold, you're actually reinforcing the fact that that's exactly how these things work!

Parish-pump politics of the worst kind.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

A few months back(?), I suggested that when the original £36m Sub-Regional Funding was first agreed, over a decade ago, Peter Robinson and Martin McGujinness had already (unofficially) earmarked £!0m of it each for The Oval (PR) and the Brandywell (MM).

And when more recently, I suggested that Derry & Strabane Council may have advanced £3m for Phase 1 of the Brandywell redevelopment, in anticipation of future Sub-Regional funding from Stormont, you poo-poohed the idea, on two counts:
1. Specifically that Stormont can't just disburse this money to a Council i.e. you were clearly unaware that the Council owned the Brandywell and so qualified; and
2. More generally that "that's not how these things work" (paraphrasing).

Yet by your above comments in bold, you're actually reinforcing the fact that that's exactly how these things work!

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I can't believe you've leapt into this hackneyed old hole to start digging it deeper again for yourself ! :D

The above is just pure bullsh!t. Go away and look at what I actually wrote and the schooling I had to give you about the whole thing, and then come back and see if you want to keep digging yourself deeper again :excruciating:

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

I can't believe you've leapt into this hackneyed old hole to start digging it deeper again for yourself ! :D

The above is just pure bullsh!t. Go away and look at what I actually wrote and the schooling I had to give you about the whole thing, and then come back and see if you want to keep digging yourself deeper again :excruciating:

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What, you expect me to look for something which you claim rubbishes my point? Very strange, I must say.

How about YOU find the "hole" which you claim exists. Or are you reluctant to do so, since it would reveal that you were the one behind the wheel of the mechanical digger.

P.S. I usually find on such forums that whenever someone claims to have "schooled" another poster, without offering any actual evidence, its a clear sign that he/she is bluffing, especially when expressed in more intemperate language than usual.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

What, you expect me to look for something which you claim rubbishes my point? Very strange, I must say.

How about YOU find the "hole" which you claim exists. Or are you reluctant to do so, since it would reveal that you were the one behind the wheel of the mechanical digger.

P.S. I usually find on such forums that whenever someone claims to have "schooled" another poster, without offering any actual evidence, its a clear sign that he/she is bluffing, especially when expressed in more intemperate language than usual.

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You made two patently false claims re the Brandywell :

1) That Derry council were seeking £10m from Stormont to complete the stadium.
2) That Brandywell can be upgraded to 8,000 as a result.

I refer you back to my below response of 22nd May 2022 (Post #6925 on the 'Stadium Updates thread'), where I dissected your points on this :

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

This is why trying to debate anything with you on here is both maddening and pointless. Whenever you're pulled up for getting something wrong (e.g. your laughable claims about the LSL), rather than just hold your hands up and have the grace, sense and integrity to admit you got it wrong - you instead pursue a dual strategy of pointless tangets to try to hide the fact you were wrong, whilst also doubling down on the original daft claim yet again.

To dissect your latest comments :

1) I have never claimed that there would be NO Stormont money for the Branyswlel, so your claim on that is irrelevant. As I have made clear repeatedly - and as the newspaper articles I posted previously to you on this have made clear - the plan for the Brandywell was for that Stormont regional fund to provide £3m of the £10m build cost. You made a claim that the contribution being sought from Stormont had been £10m, when in fact that was just the TOTAL cost of the project. But rather than just hold your hands up and accept that was an error, you're persisting with that £10m Stormont claim. For the love of god, please just stop.



2) You don't need anyone to lend you a hand on derailing your own posts EG :D As for the Brandywell's potential capacity, you have previously admitted that you haven't been in the ground since the new stand went in there. So you're not exactly familiar with the place. Once that new stand is completed, the ground will have something like a 5,500 capacity (Derry fans please correct if wrong). I therefore challenge you to explain where an extra 2,500 could be fitted into the Brandywell. I don't care what any document may have suggested, or your theories about trying to equalise the capacity of the Brandywell and the Oval (like that is a credible issue for anyone really) - I'm talking about common feckin sense and obvious facts. Go on Google earth, look at the Brandywell, and tell us where an extra 2,500 vould be accomodated once the new stand there is completed all the way along. And please - don't bother replying until you've done that exercise, as it'll make you realise where you're going wrong.

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Then - as you always do when you're schooled on here - rather than just hold your hands up and accept you got it wrong, you did your usual disappearing act. Just like you vanished in the discussion on LSL clubs after you repeatedly made claims about the clubs there which everyone pointed out to you were just wrong. You failed to respond to the above post, and now here you are 7mths later on a different thread unearthing your nonsesense claims again, and making up what I allegedly said. Presumably your failure to respond previously was because you couldn't refute the points I'd made.

Now you're back again on this hobby horse again, your latest points aren't even correct with what you yourself said previously. To reiterate - the council in Derry never forwarded any money to Stormont, and certainly not £3m. It spent SEVEN MILLION of its own money completing what it thought would be Phase 1 of a redevelopment project. The ENTIRE project was costed at TEN MILLION, hence they were looking for THREE MILLION from Stormont to complete it via the Phase 2 work which bhasn't happened yet. I have previously posted articles that back all this up, yet you're still wanging on about what is patently nonsense.

You really are a poor attempt at a troll on here sometimes. For the love of God, please just give it a rest.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

You made two patently false claims re the Brandywell :

1) That Derry council were seeking £10m from Stormont to complete the stadium.

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Wrong!

I said that Stormont had (unofficially) earmarked £10m each for The Oval and the Brandywell to provide 2 x medium sized stadia in NI.

And since the Council owns the Brandywell - something you had to be informed of - supplying funding to them would, after the large Regional Stadium at Windsor, serve the second leg of the strategy, and suit everyones agenda, as follows:
They are the two biggest clubs in NI along with Linfield; Both are in the two biggest cities; Both provide a georgraphical spread; and (crucially) Both lie in the constituencies of the then FM and DFM.
Which explains the following:
"In November 2016, then deputy first minister Martin McGuiness said he expected funding for phase two for Derry City’s stadium to be allocated in 2017."
https://www.derrydaily.net/2021/08/1...-funding-date/

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"A sum of £10m has already been earmarked for the [Glentoran] project in the Northern Ireland Executive's sub-regional stadia programme for soccer which was published [in December 2015]."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38175609

Meanwhile, the third leg of the strategy would see the remaining £16m go to various small regional stadia.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

2) That Brandywell can be upgraded to 8,000 as a result.

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Neither you nor I know exactly how much the stadium could be enlarged. But even if it couldn't extend to 8k, the original Stormont scheme proposed medium-sized stadia of 6-8k:

Purpose: To provide funding towards the achievement of safe stadia. The
stadium should be suitable for hosting high level competition matches with a
moderate capacity level of 6,000 to 8,000 persons.
 Budget: A budget of circa £10 million will be made available for this strand.
 Maximum Award: The maximum award available is up to £10 million.
 Partnership Funding: A minimum of 20% partnership funding is required.
https://www.communities-ni.gov.uk/co...programme-socc

And there is no doubt that the Brandywell could be enlarged to hold 6k.

(Incidentally, with the recent introduction of Safe Standing in GB, the Glens are now looking to rebuild The Oval to 10k, with two 1k standing terraces at either end and 8k in two seated stands along the sides).

The rest of your post is blether.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

For the love of God, please just give it a rest.

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So you can have the last word?

OK, if you must, fire away.

Lads, respectfully, I enjoy both of your posts when you're engaging with literally anybody but each other...

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Wrong!

I said that Stormont had (unofficially) earmarked £10m each for The Oval and the Brandywell to provide 2 x medium sized stadia in NI.

And since the Council owns the Brandywell - something you had to be informed of - supplying funding to them would, after the large Regional Stadium at Windsor, serve the second leg of the strategy, and suit everyones agenda, as follows:

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Please show where I have ever needed to be told that the Council owned the Brandywell ? I've known since the minute Derry enterded the LOII in 1985 that the council own their ground. So back your claim up here or withdraw it.

You have provided zero evidence for your claim that Stormont allocated £10m for the Brandywell. Zero. Yet I have previously posted articles which showed that the total cost of refurbishing the Brandywell was £10m - of which the council has already spent £7m in Phase 1. What the hell are they going to do with £10m at that stadium now ? It just needs a single stand completed ? Phase 1 of the Brandywell cost £7m and did the following :

1) Mark Farren Stand (part built).
2) New pitch.
3) New relocated Greyhound Stadium.
4) New perimeter walling around ground.
5) Issues adressed re the Sounthend Stand.
6) New turnstiles and electronic system all around the ground
7) Temporary toilets, shop etc.
8) Doubtless other stuff I didn't notice there too

So having done that with only £7m - please tell us all what Derry council need £10m from Stormont for ? You;re talking utter rubbish here.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

They are the two biggest clubs in NI along with Linfield; Both are in the two biggest cities; Both provide a georgraphical spread; and (crucially) Both lie in the constituencies of the then FM and DFM.
Which explains the following:
"In November 2016, then deputy first minister Martin McGuiness said he expected funding for phase two for Derry City’s stadium to be allocated in 2017."
https://www.derrydaily.net/2021/08/1...-funding-date/

and

"A sum of £10m has already been earmarked for the [Glentoran] project in the Northern Ireland Executive's sub-regional stadia programme for soccer which was published [in December 2015]."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38175609

Meanwhile, the third leg of the strategy would see the remaining £16m go to various small regional stadia.

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This is all very well, but sheds ZERO light on your claims re the Brandywell. You're just throwing sand in the air in an effort to confuse people. I've never denied that there was a cosy wee unofficial deal done between Robinson and McGuinness over the Brandywell and the Oval. It was well reported in the media. The point of difference is for how much, as the media only ever claimed £10m for The Oval - not the Brandywell. I've provided evidence that the TOTAL Brandywell project cost was £10m, with the council covering £7 of that and the rest being sought from Stomront. You've provided zero evidence to back up your cliams, which don't even survive simple common sense let alone evidence. Yet still you persist. PLEASE PROVIDE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM THAT £10M IS BEING SOUGHT BY DERRY FROM STORMONT. If you can;t then stop repeating it.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Neither you nor I know exactly how much the stadium could be enlarged.

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I know for an absolute fact that the Brandywell could not be increased to 8,000 by the expenditure of another £3m, or by utilising the current footprint of the stadium and its existing stands. I know this because it's blatantly obvious common sense to anyone with eyes. Just like Tallaght can't be increased to 20,000 by building the North Stand. LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH - THERE ISN'T THE FCUKING ROOM AT THE BRANDYWELL!! The only way you would get Brandywell to 8,000 would be to flatten it and start again. But this has never been on the cards. Again - please stop claiming that night is day here. Repeating a false claim doesn't magically make it true. It's just Trumpist nonesense.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

But even if it couldn't extend to 8k, the original Stormont scheme proposed medium-sized stadia of 6-8k:

Purpose: To provide funding towards the achievement of safe stadia. The
stadium should be suitable for hosting high level competition matches with a
moderate capacity level of 6,000 to 8,000 persons.
 Budget: A budget of circa £10 million will be made available for this strand.
 Maximum Award: The maximum award available is up to £10 million.
 Partnership Funding: A minimum of 20% partnership funding is required.
https://www.communities-ni.gov.uk/co...programme-socc

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More sand being thrown in people's eyes on this. It doesn't matter what that says, it doesn't alter the blindingly obvious fact that you can't get 8,000 capacity at the Brandywell within the existing footprint, or without flattening the place and starting again. I'll keep repeating it until you accept the undeniably obvious reality of this. Or at the very least provide any evidence that the plan was ever for the Brandywell to have 8,000 capacity. Again - put up or shut up.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

And there is no doubt that the Brandywell could be enlarged to hold 6k

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I've never said it couldn't. I've pointed out that completing the Mark Farren Stand would get it to the region of 5,500. So I've no idea why you feel this is such a revelation.

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

The rest of your post is blether.

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On the irony ! Your posts on this - as on so many other issues - are just unedvidenced. made up fantasy. You really need to just stop repeating it, as it doesn't make it true.

MODERATORS - Can you do something to stop someone continually just trolling on stuff like this? Surely if claims are going to be continually restated and someone goaded over them then they need to be backed up with evidence? Apologies - but this is maddening and frustrating. And it's something that Ealing Green does on a regular basis (again - reference his infamous lecture to everyone about the state of LSL clubs, which was completely made up nonsesense that he refused to accept was so and then just disappeared when the heat was piling on). Surely if stuff gets challenged repeatedly then the onus is on the poster to provide evidence or just stop repeating falsehoods ?

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

MODERATORS - Can you do something to stop someone continually just trolling on stuff like this? Surely if claims are going to be continually restated and someone goaded over them then they need to be backed up with evidence? Apologies - but this is maddening and frustrating. And it's something that Ealing Green does on a reguklar basis (again - ike his infamous lecture to everyone on LSL clubs, which was completely made up nonsesense that he refused to accept was so).

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I'm not a mod here, but in the spirit of slk above, can I suggest reporting the post (and toning down your own posts too)?

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'm not a mod here, but in the spirit of slk above, can I suggest reporting the post (and toning down your own posts too)?

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Apologies - but it's like dealing with Trump. No surprise that frustration kicks in when fantasy is continually presented as fact, and there is a refusal to back it up.

3,500 at EDP tonight. :p

3,612 at the RSC for the cup game.

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Originally Posted by SPXcyan

3,612 at the RSC for the cup game.

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Fantastic crowd.

How big was the crowd at Eamonn Deasy Park yesterday?