Didn't know the fourth official is watching TV replays and could let the ref know about stuff he'd missed. That's interesting. Good idea too.
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Didn't know the fourth official is watching TV replays and could let the ref know about stuff he'd missed. That's interesting. Good idea too.
Ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Giles and Brady.
Brady saying that the fourth official doesn't know as much about over-the-top fouls as Giles. :p
Has to be a red. Officials don't tolerate tackles like that anymore (by and large).
I think if a guy goes in over the the top of the ball theres not doubt its a straight red but to me that one was caused by the contact on the ball.... either way I dont think it would have affected the outcome too much with the Swiss scoring 3
Caught that, Giles didn't seem to pick up on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I disagree with John about Valencia. I don't think it was a malicious tackle at all but it was reckless and dangerous and he put himself in a position where he wouldn't be able to control his leg once it slipped off the ball.
John and Liam.
Ann and Barry. What's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The Ecuadorian keeper was catching everything. Made for a nice change. It was a spirited performance by Ecuador, but they're the first South American side to drop out.
I'm sure anyone watching the Argentina game saw what appeared to be Lavezzi dissing his manager with a squirt of water over the head whilst otherwise completely ignoring his instructions earlier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TSWlCC1shU
Was that serious or was it a joke?
Kenny Cunningham didn't have much time for it: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/world...ub-by-lavezzi/
Well, of course you'd consider it normal human conduct if you admit you'd be liable to lapsing into it yourself. Just like Suarez might be of the opinion that biting is a completely normal human behaviour. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I don't doubt it immediately strikes the raw senses as very wrong, but it's what makes it more wrong in people's minds that I find interesting. Lineker on the BBC was just discussing retrospective punishment generally after the France-Ecuador game and said in a steadfast manner, as if reflecting the view of the nation, "Well, I'm not going to compare a bite with an elbow..." Are they that incomparable? They're both abhorrent examples of violent conduct. Is it rational to view it as incomparably wrong or weird, or is such an emotionally-charged response? Maybe there are valid reasons to view biting as more harmful. Maybe not. I think EG suggested it earlier, but perhaps we're hardwired by evolution to be disgusted by it. Who knows? It's quite a fascinating controversy all the same.Quote:
But if a guy spat at me I think I would completely go bananas, that is far less dangerous than anything else that might happen on a football pitch but its disgusting and disrespectful. Most people would agree that it is completely unacceptable. To me though biting is much worse again, there is something very wrong about it. It is not normal behavior in any way at all.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Responding to Razor's worry that he may have agreed with Dunphy and Sadlier. Sadly my Canadian broadband failed to refresh the page quickly enough and you all beat me to it.
I apologise for my impervious interruption.
As you were...
The difference is Danny I think that most people would agree with what I find normal behaviour.... I doubt many(outside of Uruguay and Merseyside) would agree with Suarez view on normal :)
For what its worth I actually think both Sahko and Giroud should get punished for the elbows, but again they are pretty much first time offenders and dont do that regularly!
I actually like Sadlier, after Gary Neville I would have him as my 2nd fav pundit on the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
the last few days he seems to have made a conscious effort to lighten up, almost as if he reads what people say about him on twitter and message boards. The only problem is he's now turned into one of those born-again types who, despite having only stopped being a moanyhole about 72 hours ago, is now going around cheerfully reminding people that their negative vibes are really bringing everyone down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
But couldn't they just have requested it be transferred electronically? They'd have gotten it quicker that way, assuming the federation does actually have the capability to produce such funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
I'd say they were worried about the Nigerian prince the GFA had set up as the middle man.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
According to the coach, James Appiah, most of the players don't have bank accounts in Ghana and apparently the banking system isn't quite as seamless there as it is in Europe, so players prefer to be paid in cash. I suspect it's probably more a case of them not trusting they'll be paid until it's in their hands. The problem in this case is that the players expect to be paid before the tournament (as is reasonable if they don't trust the FA) and FIFA doesn't pay out until after a tournament (a few months later I think) so the FA has to find a line of credit to pay bonuses until the FIFA payment comes in. That shouldn't really be a problem for an organisation that has $8 million guaranteed income, but who knows what goes on between the FA and banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
He was telling Kenny he was getting "too angry" over Lavezzi squirting his manager with water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It's funny because a week ago I reckon he probably would have been really annoyed by Cunningham and got quite agitated, but new chilled-out Richie was just like "dude, relax..."Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Let's nip this myth in the bud before it gathers wings; the Good Friday Agreement has absolutely nothing to do with the Nigerian prince's eligibility to effect the switch to the Ghana team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
More like their players don't want to pay tax on it, allegedly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I doubt it. If they wanted to hide it they'd just have it paid to an offshore bank account. I'd say it's a lot more to do with lack of trust in their football association.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Uruguay's in-denial captain Diego Lugano answers the BBC's questions on "nothing important": http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28026610
His opening answer is just comical.
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Originally Posted by BBC
Its like the Liverpool team after the Evra incident. Circle the wagons/us against them etc. I wish he had the balls to just say "It was wrong, but there's nothing we can do about it now" but I guess he'd be more worried about squad cohesion.
On another note, what are the chances Germany and the US actually try and win the game tomorrow? I'd say they'd give it a decent go for at least an hour, without trying to really kill themselves. I wonder if Klinsmann would pull a Holloway, and lose while trying too hard to win.
Not that it really matters I suppose, unless Ronaldo really kicks it into gear.
I'd say a semi-competitive game will suit Germany. If the US aren't going full-tilt, they could tear them apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Was at the Greece game, it didn't look like a penalty to me but I didn't have the benefit of a replay. The locals were not too fond of Greece's tactics, I can see them edging Costa Rica though.
To be fair to the home fans, they've seen enough of those tactics from their own team so they're bound to be worn out by the time they get to Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Do you still think it was a dive having seen television replays?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUmuwaZp5vU
I thought it was a pretty clear-cut penalty. Samaras' leg was caught as he swung it to kick the ball, which caused it to change course and his foot to pummel into the ground, thus, tripping him up.
There are different angles which show him being clipped by the defender. Penalty.
One of the most disappointing moments of the World Cup so far for me was the huge ovation Drogba got when leaving the pitch. Good player and all that he is, to me he represents much that is wrong with football today with his diving and particularly feigning injury and these people would have seen it on TV and yet applaud him. Perhaps all that s**t is now accepted by many fans :(
Read this...
Laughed lots...
http://babb.telegraph.co.uk/2014/06/...orld-cup-ever/
Ha, I'm guessing this was from the England game:
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...-today-321.jpg
Still no verdict on Suarez, although Danny Mills recommended the following: "They have got to throw him in jail and lock him up forever."
I'm surprised by some of the things people like Mills are coming out with. If anything, they should be bringing back capital punishment!
If Suarez does play for Uruguay in the next match against Colombia though, and Carlos Bacca plays for them, might Suarez chew Bacca?
(OK, I'll be honest; my friend came up with that on Facebook.)
I think they'll play out a conservative and risk-free draw. I don't necessarily think it'll be a stitch-up where the two teams will have agreed to ensure safe passage through for both of them or anything like that. I just think the players will be primarily concerned with protecting what they have - self-preservation will dictate matters - and this will have the inevitable consequence of both sides committing little in attack. There may be a brief early period of inventive play - they'll have heard wind of the conspiracy theories and may want to do just enough to prove their professional integrity - but, if so, both teams will very soon realise the perils of allowing such play to continue. Imagine you were playing in this game; how would you approach it?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Aw aye, definitely. It's evident from the angle in that video above even, despite the idiot who uploaded it sticking "dive" in the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Well, of course it would be accepted. As we all know from the summer friendlies thread, the majority of football fans around the world are them poor types with no moral backbone...Quote:
One of the most disappointing moments of the World Cup so far for me was the huge ovation Drogba got when leaving the pitch. Good player and all that he is, to me he represents much that is wrong with football today with his diving and particularly feigning injury and these people would have seen it on TV and yet applaud him. Perhaps all that s**t is now accepted by many fans :(
Did it really cost him £2000 for accommodation! That's usually the last thing I worry about on football away days!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I think you're more honest than your friend - that one's been doing the rounds since Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Sulley Muntari and Kevin Prince Boateng have been kicked out of the Ghana camp today over disputes with management. Muntari apparently attacked an FA official.
Ha, he claimed it was all his own work. I had a suspicion it might have been doing the rounds though, so thought it best to play it safe and admit it wasn't an original. Phew! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
They won't play later then? Boateng strikes me as serious mercenary material. Maybe Tommie Gorman could help patch things up?Quote:
Sulley Muntari and Kevin Prince Boateng have been kicked out of the Ghana camp today over disputes with management. Muntari apparently attacked an FA official.
Everything is lining up for Portugal....
This talk about about the lack of catching from goalkeepers baffles me. Not that it would matter, but is there any evidence to back up these claims?
There seems to be some misplaced importance on catching (in the anglosphere). The priority is preventing goals; and sure catching the ball, and ensuring your team retains possession is the optimal way of doing this.
But punching is just as vaild an option, especially under pressure. I'd argue a punch is more difficult to execute, but easier to recover from.
A good punch, like a good parry, should remove the immediate danger, and ideally find a team mate, empty space or touch.
It's all about picking the best option in a given situation.
Perhaps Brazil isn't like most of Europe, where you can usually get away with staying in a hostel in the dodgy part of town for £15 a night. You could run into safety issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
That said, I doubt he's staying for more than 3 weeks, especially if he's only arriving after the second game. That works out to about £100 a night, which is definitely more than you need to shell out. Same for "Enjoying the ambience". If you're spending £100 a night on just generally having the craic, you're either doing it wrong, or doing it very, very right!
Oliver Kahn was always great fun to watch. He used to punch the ball crazy distances at the slightest excuse. Long ball played over the top, no opposition player within 40 yards, Kahn comes haring out to the top of his area and punches the ball into the stratosphere...Quote:
Originally Posted by A N Mouse
Just to go back to a few comments on the Suarez incident...
It is weird, sure, but is weirdness worthy of greater punishment than, say, a forceful elbow to the nose?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
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Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Or a muddy football stud raking down and cutting your leg maybe? Is it really worse than an elbow though? Suarez might have bitten in a fashion society deems weirdly animalistic, but he isn't a dog with rabies or tetanus, so I don't see the relevance of drawing sensational comparisons with bites from dogs with rabies. We should remain rational rather than lapsing into factually-suspect alarmism. He's a seemingly-healthy human being, at least physically, and presumably free from HIV, hepatitis and other blood-transmitted diseases. Not that there was any exchange of blood anyway, and HIV cannot be transmitted via saliva-blood contamination either. Even if Suarez had broken the skin - and he didn't - of what would Chiellini have been at risk from his saliva to render it worse than an elbow?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Aye, maybe it's just that the media in the Anglosphere makes such a big deal out of it when a goalkeeper is - shock, horror - seen to punch a ball, so we think it's more prevalent. A keeper who punches is seen as flaky, eccentric and risky. Why would there be a greater appreciation for goalkeepers catching the ball in the UK and Ireland though? Could it be related to an historical emphasis upon catching the ball in sports like rugby or Gaelic football where holding on to it ensures possession is preserved?Quote:
Originally Posted by A N Mouse
Obviously trying to pass themselves off as more affluent than they actually are. If they were really that well-off, they would have at least laminated the card and been able to buy a dictionary to check the spelling of "ambience"! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
This will have to suffice for nowQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
http://healthcare.utah.edu/healthfee...d.cup.bite.php
Can't find the article, but there was one recently think was cat bites are worse than (non-rabid) dog bites - basically doggy mouth bacteria was less harmful to humans. But there was some kind of throwaway at the end, about how the same was true of human bites.
Found something (not one I remember) - but unfortunatley its from the daily mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ical-list.html
Massive flooding at the stadium US/Germs are playing at. Easy money today gents. This one has draw written all over it. Fans having trouble getting there, streets flooded. Ive never seen this country so mad for a soccer game and its going to be a buzz kill. My office is even getting it catered and giving everyone the chance to watch on the big projector. Rare.