He now has an aversion to the colour green??Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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He now has an aversion to the colour green??Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Laughable really, especially 4.Quote:
Who to blame? The following all to blame on some parts:
1. The FAI - for nicking them and as usual begging all you can get until they end up with a team not reflective in any way of their culture and society of their 26 county Republic. In the last 20 years how many times have they fielded an all ROI born and bred 11?? Not many.
2. FIFA - Rules allowing these players to defect for reasons of nationality, yet with no family links to the ROI, never have lived there etc.
3. The NI manager - not going to meet the players at their clubs to explain the set up here, highlight the advantages of the NI team, their team
4. Peer pressure - maybe their mates are sectarian and will try and convince them to defect
5. The IFA - not doing enough to keep the players, not lobbying FIFA/UEFA, refusing to pull out of Nations Cup, not organising things well, no glamour friendlies, bad PR, still talking to the FAI etc...
6. The Players themselves - maybe they dont want to play for us anyway, but in that case they should defect aged 12, not aged 17 - 21.
And clearly in denial of all the FIFA edicts/CAS ruling. Not to mention factually wrong. And without a wider appreciation of Irish society and culture.
Or the hypocrisy of their own squads not being 'home-born' etc.
If they're really that annoyed, maybe they should just disband or something.
I wonder how typical a view this is though? I suspect it's not uncommon.
Comic-book stuff. Maybe somebody could do a cartoon strip.....Quote:
DELANEY HANDS OFF NI PLAYERS
HENRY'S HAND SLAPPED YOU FOR STEALING OUR PLAYERS
ROI CEASE AGGRESSION ON NI FOOTBALL
F@*K OFF DELANEY AGGRESSOR
IFA GROW A SET OF BALLS
DELANEY TAKES POTSHOTS AT NI SHARED FOOTBALL FOR ALL
GIVE ROI SECTARIAN RECRUITMENT STRATEGY THE RED CARD
And the thought of Delaney being aggressive in any shape or form, except when it comes to his own salary negotiations. :rolleyes:
Otherwise, doubt he could even punch through the proverbial wet paper bag!
I wonder if IFA teams fans dislike John Delaney more than FAI team fans.
I suspect if recent posts are anything to go by they dislike the IFA far more than John Delaney....
;)
Tuffey - he'd a shocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Delaney's hated both sides of the border than?
'Hated' seems a bit strong. 'Very annoying' at worst, but having met the man twice, he's a very slick operator, a consummate politician. In some ways wasted at the FAI.
I think people forget that his main job at the FAI is to increase revenues, which he has done fairly spectacularly during his tenure. The ticket-pricing fiasco has been a blip but one that other more highly-thought-of associations have also been caught out by.
Delaney was hardly the only person in Ireland not to see the recession coming.
The FAI was advised by an offshoot of IMG wrt stadium related fundraising and advance ticket sales.
I've been thinking for a little while that, at some point in the future, Delaney could very well run for president of FIFA
Well, he wouldn't be any worse than Blatter.
But he must be at least 20 years too young for that post.
:rolleyes:
Article in the Newletter about the boycott: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/loc...atch_1_2699760
A grand total of 210 fans will be in the NI section on Tuesday night, while the IFA have sold only 38 tickets for their game against Wales.
The effort to attempt to manipulate the reasoning behind the boycott appears to be paying off somewhat with both the AoNISC and IFA spokesmen trying to tie supporter unrest over player eligibility into the matter. In saying that, it would be in the interests of the IFA to divert attention away from their travelling and security arrangements.Quote:
The Amalgamation of Official Northern Ireland Supporters’ Clubs (AONISC) criticised the move and said it would not be offering its services for the matches.
However, last night fans’ spokesman Gary McAllister said as well as fury over the travel arrangements, many supporters were taking a stand over the ongoing player eligibility dispute.
...
Last year the IFA failed to overturn a ruling that a Northern Ireland-born player holding an Irish passport is eligible to represent the Republic.
Commenting on the boycott, Mr McAllister said: “We are pleased that the vast majority of block-bookers have stood together. Given that there are around 11,000 block-bookers this is a huge rejection of these games by the regular Northern Ireland fanbase and I think it is very significant.”
“We highlighted the issue over the travel arrangements, with which we were unhappy, but there is a significant number of Northern Ireland fans who have taken a personal decision not to attend because of the player eligibility issue.”
He added: “Given that it would appear there will be further defections by players who have been capped at underage level by Northern Ireland, what we now need to do is focus on the matter as it is the biggest issue facing Northern Ireland football today.”
FA spokesman Geoff Wilson said the football authority was “disappointed” with the small number of travelling fans.
“We thought we would have had several thousand going to the game and obviously that has not materialised,” he said.
Asked if the ticketing policy had a detrimental effect on numbers, Mr Wilson said: “The ticketing policy had an effect but I do think the main reason why people are boycotting [the game] is over the player eligibility issue.
“People understand the reason why we implemented the strict ticketing policy was because of the interests and security of our fans. However, the fans that are speaking to us and writing on the forums are stating the player eligibility issue (as their main reason for not attending).”
Which contradicts the 6k figure in the other thread. It seems a rather convenient 'excuse'.
Despite what others have said, don't see what there is to stop individuals or very small groups travelling when and how they want and taking up home tickets, though they may well give themselves away by a variety of reasons....
;)
I doubt the AoNISC's position was changed by an internet forum, for what it's worth. Nor would it be changed or influenced by the IFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
As far as I am aware the AONISC position has not changed.
Was a story on the back of the Belfast Telegraph today claiming that a Shankill Road based NI supporters club is wanting to take the IFA to court for infringement of there Human Rights! I don't really understand that one at all it will be costly and could end up harming the IFA. Also there was talk of a boycott of the next home game at Windsor against Norway IIRC.
What club?Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
These days, every time the Belfast Tele opens its mouth, yet another quote climbs into the top 100 list, in the 'you could not make it up' catagory. This one takes the biscuit for irony.
The BT reports a statement from The First Shankill Northern Ireland Supporters Club -
“We have several issues with the IFA. They relate to freedom of travel, freedom of association and freedom of choice."
Not sure of the club but Winston "Winkie" Rea is the spokesman for the campaign. The former Red Hand Commmando and son in law of UVF leader Gusty Spence. He's claiming a breach of human rights. You really couldn't make this stuff up.Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
It does seem strange that someone convicted of the murder of two Catholics and who is a senior loyalist paramilitary, is the sort of guy ni supporters would be keen to have as their spokesman.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
Maybe 'Winkie' will be offered a position within the IFA's Community Relations Dept. ;)
That doesn't really tot though. Who the hell have Wales whisked out of the IFAs buxom in the boot of a car that there's only 38 tickets sold for their match with them?Quote:
Geoff Wilson:“People understand the reason why we implemented the strict ticketing policy was because of the interests and security of our fans. However, the fans that are speaking to us and writing on the forums are stating the player eligibility issue (as their main reason for not attending).”
Geoff Wilson is participating in a what's called retrospective revision.
The OWC fans would believe any old revised stroke passed on to them, without much resistance from their diminished portions of rational common sense.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Funny that if "the don't give the thieving FAI a penny" brigade had so much influence, that over 6,000 Northern Ireland fans attended the game v Scotland.
Aren't all revisions retrospective?
Mine aren't. Sure even my foresight is 20:20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
No, although each time they now mention their "official" stance, they're also paying lip service to those fans who are unhappy about player eligibility, as if that issue also ties in with the overall boycott. They weren't doing this originally, citing only the IFA's travel and security arrangements for NI fans as the sole reasoning behind the boycott by the general fanbase. Their statements now imply that a "significant number" of those who've decided to partake in this boycott are also doing it because player eligibility is, for them, an issue over which it is worth making a stand. It clearly never was. NI fans attended the Scotland game in their thousands and it was only an insignificant minority who supported the original idea of a boycott over the player eligibility issue. The idea of a widespread boycott only gained wings after the IFA announced their bus prices and plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
Story here: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-16002367.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
It is a rather bizarre step considering they were perfectly entitled to attend the game were it not for their personal choice to boycott it.
What a load of absolute muck. Take your bile elsewhere please.Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
So you're saying FT is making it up??
Surely the "silent" NI supporters are ****ed off at this. It is monster raving looney stuff and they are leaving themselves open to serious ridicule both here and in the rest of the UK.
That would be nice. He'd be able to reminisce about time inside next time sports minister Caral ni Chiulin comes round for tea.Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
(Sory for the lazy whataboutery)
Indeed, although you can exaggerate these things. Fans in the rest of Britain aren't interested, and of course your own fans (and FA) have recent experience of widespread ridicule after the reaction to the France game in 2009. You seem t ohave got over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
He is not making it up, but what he is saying is totally irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
The political situation in Northern Ireland has resulted in plenty of ex-terrorists being in public office, the fact he is having a dig at someone who may not have a clean past is irony at its very best.
Except that Ms. ni Chiulin has an elected parliamentary mandate, would be unsure of Mr.Rea's exact 'credentials'....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
You mean EG's pathetic banner?? That was hardly 'widespread'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gather round
:rolleyes:
Except it's nothing to do with their past. It's their 'claiming a breach of their human rights' as FT said.Quote:
Originally Posted by awec
Er, no. I was clearly referring to his "is that who Northern Ireland fans want representing them" post. You know I was too, poor deflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Nice of you to say/interpret wrongly (or 'deflect poorly'), but share FT's bemusement.
Nothing more, nothing less.
You never know - he'd maybe get a reference from Republican paramilitary Marty?Quote:
Originally Posted by co. down green
http://www.irishcentral.com/story/ne...114636319.html
Mr Rea will have an elected mandate from the 1st Shankill Northern Ireland Supporters Club to speak on their behalf.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Is there really such a thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
Sounds like an army regiment or, dare I say it, a paramilitary unit. The name is is very poor taste in my opinion. What's wrong with NI Supporters Club, Shankill Bracnch or something normal?