20 Teams, 2 Divisions, 1 National League

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Originally Posted by yurt

A 12 team league would dilute the quality of the league. I highly doubt it's something being considered at the top level.

I've been reading and suggesting my own alternative league structures for over a decade here and elsewhere. Suggesting it'd be the solution to generating interest in a failing league. Now we have 2 divisions which work well(ish) and interest has never been higher, with a fully professional premier division. If it's not broke don't fix it.

What we need imo is more clubs playing at a higher level, not necessarily more players playing at the highest level.

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"Now we have 2 divisions which work well(ish) and interest has never been higher, with a fully professional premier division. If it's not broke don't fix it."

I agree with your post, especially the above. I also am excited with the FAI's plan for a new National League third division. Hopefully it gets going as planned and as with all new ideas, it will have its issues at the start.
Significantly, the real intention is to create new competitive platform and pathway for non-league clubs which should also make the first division more competitive.

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Originally Posted by Keen2win

A club should make it as easy as possible to progress through the levels. Academy players should be brought into senior training. This doesn't happen as first team trains in Dublin and has Dublin managers who literally do not look at or care about the Academy

Did we train in Dublin throughout the 80s and 90s? I don't know if we did or not. However the national league Academy system has changed a lot, and is the main reason the LOI is now booming. I remember people on here going against that at the time! Like some genius saying Academy football isn't experience lol, shur there were people saying Longford doesn't need a skatepark too there will always be pushback that's why it's so so important to always ask oneself the question: well what have you achieved and that will give an indication of whether one's opinion is worth anything really

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Back then our senior mgrs were Dublin based or outside the county except for Zac Hackett which was pretty much locally based training wise I imagine!So would think that other times that some trained in Longford and rest in Dublin

It's interesting to know when we started to sell our soul to Dublin.. LOI was different then, now there is thousands being spent on an academy that is not focused on producing players. We have lost millions letting Owen Elding go!

Has any 17-year-old academy player in the history of LoI generated millions for a club?

Depends how much he is sold for pineapple, that's what a football club is about developing players and keeping your best performers! Out of interest do you have any experience in football or are you just an entitled dubliner?? Cos I saw you going on about Kerry FC shouldn't be in the league, typical nonsense from an entitled dubliner with zero experience in the game!! That's what I figured straight away anyway

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Originally Posted by Keen2win

Depends how much he is sold for pineapple

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Well duh.

But has any 17-year-old academy player in the history of LoI generated millions for a club?

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Originally Posted by Keen2win

Depends how much he is sold for pineapple, that's what a football club is about developing players and keeping your best performers! Out of interest do you have any experience in football or are you just an entitled dubliner?? Cos I saw you going on about Kerry FC shouldn't be in the league, typical nonsense from an entitled dubliner with zero experience in the game!! That's what I figured straight away anyway

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I'd love to see your football cv

30 years of watching the game, all levels, taught me more than all the coaching badges gained and to a decent level too via FAI and FA. Ive a degree in Sports Science, worked in sports development for local governmet and an NGB, Im not from Dublin. Am I allowed an opinion? Ive raised questions on the county model using Kerry FC as an example also.

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

30 years of watching the game, all levels, taught me more than all the coaching badges gained and to a decent level too, UK and Ireland. Ive a degree in Sports Science, worked in sports development for local governmet and an NGB, Im not from Dublin. Am I allowed an opinion? Ive raised questions on the county model using Kerry FC as an example also.

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Do you have a league medal though. How dare you post here without one.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Well duh.

But has any 17-year-old academy player in the history of LoI generated millions for a club?

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Melia maybe? But he'll be 18 when the transfer goes through technically. Either way he's the exception that proves the rule in this case. Also something that seems to be missing from Keen's analysis is that Longford could have offered Elding the highest contract in the division and he probably still would have left because he went to a premier division team that has a necessity to play youth players. Longford were never going to keep him and so would be missing the millions regardless of any future transfer fees.

Also if it became a requirement to be involved in football at some level before commenting on it then the entire sports journalism industry would collapse :D. Keen is either the most one note troll you'll ever see or someone who has more passion than sense.

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Originally Posted by Another Bohemia

Melia maybe? But he'll be 18 when the transfer goes through technically.

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Melia wasn't (isn't) a 17-year-old academy player though. He was a senior player at 15. Elding was 17 (just) and without a senior game when leaving Longford

I'm getting very confused I think I should probably just delete my foot.ie account leave you all in peace. Amen 🙏

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Originally Posted by Keen2win

Depends how much he is sold for pineapple, that's what a football club is about developing players and keeping your best performers! Out of interest do you have any experience in football or are you just an entitled dubliner?? Cos I saw you going on about Kerry FC shouldn't be in the league, typical nonsense from an entitled dubliner with zero experience in the game!! That's what I figured straight away anyway

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You wouldnt know whats in a contract, and any player would be trying to get the best options they could get and the club trying to do the same. A release clause here might be a financial amount, the player might want that at 10k, the club at 100k and the compromise somewhere in the middle.
For young players then even in our own league you have the dog eat dog competitive nature of it - for example Shamrock Rovers Michael Noonan has passed out some of the others in his own club who are also ranked very highly - including a kid from Longford Goodness Ogbonna.

I hope LTFC turn it around and I love Dubliners as I do Longfordians

To bring this back on topic, do we have any updates on clubs and how many clubs want to join the 3rd tier?

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Originally Posted by LTFC

To bring this back on topic, do we have any updates on clubs and how many clubs want to join the 3rd tier?

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It might be easier to form a list of clubs that DON'T want to join the 3rd tier? :D

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

It might be easier to form a list of clubs that DON'T want to join the 3rd tier? :D

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To be fair over 60 expressions of interest went in, but where those are now I dont know, but does seem that appetite is there.

Does anyone know much about the current setup at Ringmahon Rangers? They're due a few million from Kelliher's transfer, would be great if this sort of money was coming to an intermediate side who were already planning on stepping up the national level

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Originally Posted by yurt

Does anyone know much about the current setup at Ringmahon Rangers? They're due a few million from Kelliher's transfer, would be great if this sort of money was coming to an intermediate side who were already planning on stepping up the national level

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A reported €3 million payday! :confused:

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Originally Posted by nr637

A reported €3 million payday! :confused:

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Judging by the item on Virgin Medias report on CK from Ringmahons ground yesterday they seem like a well organised club!