I don't think Dunne and O'Shea will be doing much going forward at their ages. Ward is in the side because he is quick and a reasonable defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by bishbash
Critics of Trap's conservatism appear not to have noticed that this is the most attacking pair of full backs we've put on the same pitch since Carr and Phelan played together under McCarthy over a decade ago.
Yes it has been noted by some. Trap always speaks of balance. So why has he done this now? Why go with 2 attacking full backs in a game of this importance? WHy not in a friendly? Why go for it against one of the best teams in the World, when we are already so weak in defense?
Trap does not believe we are going to be able match them in football and score more - to make up for our weak defence - so why has he done this now? WHy not go with conservatism as usual and hope for the best and scrape a draw?
Hey Trigger!Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ls5...e_gdata_player
The more attacking full-backs balances out three in the middle, while Cox (possibly) tucking inside to join Walters means a more attacking RB would have space to exploit. That's my reading anyhow. Definitely a gamble given we're not sure on Coleman's defensive ability, but it's not entirely unbalanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Because playing three in midfield takes away a lot of our natural width, meaning the full backs have to provide more going forward and need more speed/stamina to get up and down the line constantly. The most interesting part will be seeing where McGeady fits in.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I don't think that makes any difference really, the point is why are we more attack minded, even with your formation, with the 2 wider midfielders supporting both full backs and mccarthy most likely sitting deep in the middle, we are still very attack minded.
There are still some papers reporting a 4-4-2. I will be very sceptical if that proves correct.
I see Trap seeing this as a win win for him under all scenarios. A double win if we lose. A triple win if we got a draw. Its certainly a bit near to try this out where a hammering is possible.
As regards Mcgeady i see him running horizonal rather than vertical tonight!!
It's more attacking because we have faster, more attack-minded players in the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I still don't get your logic that Trap will be delighted if we lose the match.
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Fantasy site awards the points as per midnight the night of the game. The likes of the dubious goals committee etc doesn't change it so I'd say that's where the discrepancy come from.
Would sooner have Long in personally but it's a far tighter call then the media and a lot of people are making out. Long has 2 golas in the league and has been sub or been subbed on a number of occasions, he's not banging them in every week. I think Trap always intended bring Long on when the game stretched a bit, I think he'd have been brought on before Walters had Keane been fit, I don't buy this theory that he's suddenly 4th or 5th in the pecking order. Horses for courses seems to be Traps MO.
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Interesting thanks for those, n doubt I will be quoting from them in future!
It seems to be pretty much what was the Actim index, which I thought they had stopped producing.
Just had another look for it, and found this
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/a...onship?cc=5739
Which is an index for the Championship and very interesting it is too, the much-maligned Andy Keogh with 5 assists,
Well ahead of Simon Cox on 2.
Really hoping Fahy and McCarthy step up tonight. It will be up to Andrews to get involved from the off and get the other 2 lads up and running.
Need a big performance from the erratic McGeady. If he has one of those dozy nights, we'll have very few options to alleviate pressure down the wing with Duff gone.
Anyone recall Walters 15 minute cameo at home in the last qualifiers?? Albania ?? When he's in the zone, he's one of the best retainers of posession in the Premiership. He's used to being isolated and scrapping for posession for Stoke. I think Trapp has got this right on the requirements of this game and if we are going with 4-5-1.
Long is a quality player but when he wins the ball, he has a tendency to take on players and run into the channel. He doesn't lay it off as much.
I think Trapp wants the possession won and then fed on to a team mate. Walters does this for Stoke very well.
Thanks Christ there appear to be some semblance of tactical effort to keep the ball for more than 10 seconds.
Well said Wolf hopefully Fahey and McCarthy can knock the ball around a bit tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Sold out according to the FAI.
hopefully to fans willing to put their dislike of the manager to one side and get behind the team like never before....Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
All said - I really hope McCarthy, Andrews and Fahy are not reduced to spectators as the ball is hoofed high and far above their heads. There's not much a 3 man midfield can do if the ball spends most of the time in the air!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by the bear
Everyone will be up for it. It would be nice to get one over on the landlords. Can't waitQuote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
The germans will be fuming to see Klose and in particular Podolski start who they do not rate very highly at all. Think we might have got off the hook a little to avoid having to face Kroos, Muller and particularly the in form Gotze though no doubt he'll be sprung from the bench if they need him.
Of whos playing, Reus is the man to fear, Ozil and Schweinstieger are both in shaky form. Reus is on fire, think he has 4 goals in his last 3.
I saw a lot of the papers today labeling Schmelzer as inexperienced and a potential weak link, I'd say thats nonsense and he's a very dangerous attacking fullback who could lay down a statement here.
Hard to call the extent of just how much Germany will win by tonight, I don't anticipate any other outcome but think our showing could range from positive and something to build from to a decapitation from having so little experience. We'll learn a lot about this formation and the fringe players ability to step up, that's for certain.
Check ticketmaster. Match sold out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He's playing the players and formation people have been bleating about so there is absolutely zero reason for anyone to complain, it'd say a lot about the character of our supporters if they did anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
You think most Irish fans want Cox as right winger? Or even Ward at left full? Not trying to be facetious but there isn't one over-arcing "Irish fans position". Most people want different things, and who are you to say they can't complain about team selection/tactics?Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
All I want is players playing in position, mostly.