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Keane was fantastic last night. He could play a deep role. Is 4-3-1-2 an option? Given - Carr-O'Brien-Dunne-Finnan- McGeady-Reid,S. Kilbane- Keane - Duff - Doyle. I fancy Duff up front as he was always decent enough when he played there and Keane drops so deep sometimes that we need another one up there with the other front man. Like the goal last night Berbatov nodded it down to Jenas. If Keane was knocking balls up to Doyle like that we would need somebody coming onto them.
Yeahi in that case it would be Reid as he plays in a similar position to Reid. I think Duff should be on the wing.
Not if our midfield keep giving the ball away as cheaply as they have for the last while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Agreed but I try to look on the positive side rather than look at the negatives. the negatives are pretty obvious to me so I try to find the positives.
Its nothing to do with being positive or negative. You can have Pele up front but if you never have the ball it wont make any odds. We would all be delighted if robbie ran amok against the Germans but reality of the situation is we keep hoofing the ball back at the opposition.
I agree with you I am just saying I am trying to remain positive and Robbie is one of the positive. I agree if we dont keep the ball we dont have a chance but thats a given in my view.
Thank you for that. Nice to see people sticking to the point of the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Watched the highlights also and he looked great. Problem is, Doyle isn't much of a poacher either so Morrisson might be the better choice?
Problem is, I don't think Staunton has the wherewithal to actually rearrange his line-up.
We have 8 players in the team who I'm more than happy with in Given, Dunne, Finnan, Duff, McGeady, Reid, Keane and Doyle. These players have the ability to play a good passing game and its up to the manager to best utilise them. As Neil said, IF Staunton can maximise him. We have the individual players imo to get us to the Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
i was brickin it a few times watchin them highlights - thought Robbie had picked up an injury at one stage before coming off -
maybe i'm just being a little dramatic!
I was a bit anxious myself about RK picking up an injury last nite. we need all the help we can get for the game next week and as we only have a few world class players, we cant afford to be missing them. Given is a bit doubtful i hear also. Cannot afford to be without him either, remember that dreadful game in Cyprus last year. In all fairness to Paddy Kenny though, he did pull off a few good stops last night, and will do a decent job should we need him, but fingers crossed we wontQuote:
Originally Posted by oconghc2
Why? It appears he can stage a miracle-like recovery from injury whenever it suits him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocketballs7
Are you Mick McCarthy? It's Robbie not Roy Keane :pQuote:
Originally Posted by fergalr
I think you'll find it was Robbie who didn't turn up in Dublin last Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
If we had a tall striker, like what Quinn was, or what Koller, Jancker or Zigic are now then I think we would really be able to put the pressure on the opposition defenders.
We need someone to hold the ball up and get knockdowns for the likes of Keane and Duff. Sadly our target men (the like of Doc and Alan Lee) are just a bit below the level we need internationally.
Yeah, I've said it for years and sorry but it didn't take a tactical genius to see where he is best, witht the ball at his feet running at players...not fcekin sitting in the box waiting for the ball...and I am certainly no tactician....he's been played out of position for years but Muppets like Muckarthy and Kerrful couldn't see that.....they could only mimic whatever the Premiership managers did. Just looking at videos of Keane doing his best work would tell you where he should be utilised.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
And then wasn't fit enough to start for his club on the Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by fergalr
Don't balme the players for the stupid timing of International Friendly's when they are just finishing pre-season with their clubs. It's the time of the season when more players pick up injurys because they're not 100% fit.
I remember being impressed with Robbies workrate a few seasons ago in internationals .
Its not something you can pick up on when watching on tv.
I go to White Hart Lane a fair bit and there's not much wrong with his work ethic for Spurs.
Has been 1 of the top 3 most consistent players at Spurs for the last 12 months, well since he got his place back form Defoe.
Did anyone watch Newcastle tonight? Apparantly Duff had a great game on the right wing and got motm.
I saw the game and duff was prominent. It's hard to judge because Newcastle were playing a novel formation with no strikers but I was a bit concerned at his lack of end product. Lots of attempted crosses and blocked shots. Anyway hopefully having Robbie alongside might help.
:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
How did they line out?
I saw it, he had a good game, caused the Latvians (who were generally well organised and got plenty of men behind the ball) no end of problems down the near side.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
He set up a few chances for Luque (who fluffed them) and Scott Parker. Overall he got forward a lot and had a good game, seemed to develop an understanding with Carr towards the end of the game too - which could be good for us.
McGeady playing well again against Hibs atm. He hit a through ball into the box for Naylor to play it on a plate for Zurawski. He then hit the post for Venegoor of Hesselink to easily tap in the follow up. Celtic winning 2-1 after going 1-0 down.
/edit - Got motm today for the 3rd game in a row.
great news for mcgeady and duffer, pity robbie looked a little out of it today against everton. we need everyone firing on all cylinders!
The whole Spurs team were pretty average from what I saw. At least he didn't get injured :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ken foree
What an ugly game. Johnson looked good.
Keane did his best but Spurs were woeful.
McGeady has to start against the Germans.
Off topic but the most underrated striker in the PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie's Son
Didn't see any of the Hibs game but I hear McGeady was superb. Can anyone comment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergie's Son
Here's Celtic's 2 goals, he was involved in both:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
http://www.celtic-crazy.com/videos/celtic2_1hibs.html
I was looking at Keane's stats compared to the other Spurs strikers and they're very impressive:
http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?...means+business
Best:
Shooting accuracy
Chance conversion
Minutes per goal ratio (around 2 goals every 3 games)
and also fairly decent on the offside front. I'm suprised with how few assists he got though.
maybe he gives the 2nd last ball more often??Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Can't remember him playing well in a competetive match against a
decent team in years, Doyle on his first start played a lot better...
as captain if he is supposed to lead by example time to try someone else...
a spell on the bench would do him the world of good..
You have to ask how he plays so well for Spurs but can't convert it to the international stage. I suppose the same question can be asked about dozens of players though.
Perhaps because he is playing under a quality manager and quality players at Spurs while at Ireland...................................Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Could be due to the fact, at Spurs, he tends to play off a big striker (Berbatov, Mido etc)
deffo the big striker thing imo , he needs a target man to feed off
No central mifield to feed him. I'd like to see a chart of where Robbie, Doyle & elliott had possession. Barely 30 yards from goal is my guess. The only time I recall Elliott getting a touch was over in front of Staunton's water bottle rack.
At Spurs they have a central midfield capable (Jenas excluded) of doing their own jobs so Robbie doesn't spend 90% of his time dropping in to midfield to help out or looking for the ball.
He can't play without the ball and apart from missing a couple of half chances I thought he ran himself into the ground for the cause.
Yeah its our central midfield that is the main problem. I know its a cliche but its the engine room of the team and in a car if you have problem with the engine that is where you start with. We need a new engine.