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"Limerick FC announce partnership with Mongolian FF" https://www.limerickpost.ie/2017/06/...-mongolian-ff/ - The PatsKistan story reminds me of this, one of POS' more exotic efforts.
LOI clubs sustainability efforts probably warrants a new thread.
Derry recycle old Dundalk Players
Dundalk recycle old Pats Players
Bray Recycle old Cabo Players
Longford Recycle old Bray/Shels players
Drogheda Recycle old Shels players
Bohs have a climate justice officer
Shels are planting Trees in a forest
Pats are now sending out Solicitors Emails instead of Solicitors Letters
I do think LOI clubs are ahead of the curve on this issue. Many have withdrawn toilet paper for years now and recommended that fans use more sustainable solutions.
Doesn't really make it any less subject to criticism when Pat's are waving the sustainability stick about their jersey.
If you want to help the game in Pakistan, why not help invest in better facilities there? After all, that would help far more players and over a far longer stretch of time. (You might even say it's sustainable). There's something rather colonial-era about the idea that Pat's are nobly rescuing the natives from drudgery and giving them an exciting career opportunity with St Pat's U19s, and if you can make some money off it, all the better.
It’s mad that one single tweet mentioning the 2022 jerseys will be the most sustainable ones to date has got you this wound up, it’s hardly being broadcasted to the national media every day. Also Umbro are the ones who decided what materials to use to make the jerseys from not pats. And I’m sure Umbro asked for their efforts to be highlighted by the clubs when revealing the jerseys as both pats and Waterford did for them.
On the topic of Waterford's new jersey reveal mentioning the sustainable materials Umbro used on their jersey, wait until you hear about how their owner commutes to their games back and forth from England on an plane. What an outrage! He should be living in a bamboo hut behind the goal at the RSC if he wants to go to their games
As for improving the footballing facilities in Pakistan, that will be happening as part of the plan. A 10 million dollar stadium being the first step in regards that. It'd probably be best to actually fully take in all the details of the partnership before preaching via several essay long posts about how awful it is that there’s a flight involved :)
We are only a small part of the project. The company Global Soccer Ventures seems to have the government's backing are building a twelve million dollar stadium project. I'm not going to pretend to be an instant expert on Pakistan and would be a bit cynical that the project will have any long term benefits for our club but find some of the counter arguments a bit ott. Its good to see the club involved in big projects like this. I don't go along with the anti environmental talk , people live in the real world not a tree huggers paradise. Its better to make a bit of an effort rather than none at all. If someone goes to fill the bottle bank in a diesel car is it still not better than dumping them in the regular bins for example.Quote:
If you want to help the game in Pakistan, why not help invest in better facilities there?
I'm actually sick to my back teeth of all the posturing from all sections of society on the Green issue.
The vast majority of companies making these gestures couldn't give a fiddlers about the Environment but know that to appeal to the youth audience pretending to be green with token efforts will look good.
Its broadly typical of society in general. I would love to see Pats offer two jerseys one sustainable and one normal one for a tenner less and see what happened...I've no problem with Pats btw they are just like every other greenwashing company and fair play to their Marketing guy for throwing BS at the gullible, Rovers will probably be next
Rant over:mad: BAH HUMBUG
When you say "make an effort" - at what exactly? Football has a fairly dodgy reputation in terms of targetting young players and moving them around the world with great promises, and then dropping most of them when they don't make the grade. We know this from experience of Irish football. To be honest, this sounds quite similar and I wonder how beneficial it'd really be for Pakistani youngsters.
But that aside - because that's cynical speculation on my part, though cynical often works well in football - I just think when any organisation uses sustainability as a marketing tool when it suits them, and ignores it at other times, they deserve to be called up on it. That's all.
I was at a seminar on ESG (environmental and social governance) reporting last month; there's moves to have it included in companies' financial statements. There's definitely merit in the idea, but the first speaker pointed out that of 100+ large company statements sampled, every single one of them was bull****. There were degrees of bull****, sure, but not one of the companies was actually doing anything like what they claimed they were doing. Pat's certainly aren't unique in this at all.
So yeah, agree with you on that - but then it is something that we as a society are going have to properly address sooner or later. And the sooner, the better. I don't think anyone can really argue against that.
Dundalk signed Nathan Shepperd a keeper from Brentford,involved with the Wales u21 set up aswell,might be a bit of a coup for them that one…
Eoin Doyle confirmed by Pats. Kelleher flew him straight to Pakistan on a private jet to sign the contract. Another private jet will take him back to Dublin tomorrow for training
Eoin Doyle to Pats confirmed, hope he came on the Heysham or Holyhead Ferry.
2JC got in ahead of me
Good signing for Pats,might keep them in touch with Rovers and Derry but still hard to see them winning it…..
We need at least 4/5 more to be realistically talking about winning the league I'd say, not to sound dramatic but we're just really lacking depth in everywhere but the forward positions. Still plenty of time though and I like how we're shaping up, seems as though it's a waiting game for a few players in the UK to get out of their contracts.
Doyle is a big one anyway, not sure how it'll work with us having 4 strikers and several wingers in the squad already but that's Tim Clancy's problem.
A nice problem to have. I agree that we are a bit light at the back and in the middle, but can’t complain with any of the signings we’ve made so far. Goalie, Right Back, maybe another centre half and a centre mid. With those four positions covered I’d be very happy.
doyle even tho hes nearing 34 is still a very good signing should be giving pats 18-20 a season no bother to him, 3 year deal is fair steep mind you. How clancy lines up will be interesting, as ye have mentioned lots of forward players and there isnt space for all of them. didnt really get the coughlan re-signing myself. gk and another cb i think pats will be good to go. ben mccormack will play a good bit this season i reckon, cracking player when hes fit.
Think this is from Boyle Sports, they have it as this:
Rovers - 4/7
Derry - 3/1
Pats - 13/2
DFC - 8/1
Bohs - 12/1
Sligo - 12/1
Shels - 25/1
Drogs - 66/1
FH - 150/1
UCD -150/1
I think a bit harsh on Sligo that price as they finished 3rd last season, lost Kenny but not too many others, possibly a bit generous on us too, but 4th was my abs max expectation this season.
Still 3 or 4 new players to come.
Looks a decent GK for us today from Wales, u21 caps, then again this time last year it was Abibi, christ still not fully over that.
Good signing that today for Pats, will certainly boost them.
Yeah definitely no complaints, sure this time last year folk were panicking about the state we were in and look how they turned out.
Think 2 midfielders are probably needed personally considering Lewis and Benson are gone, leaving Forrester, Lennon and a few (albeit talented) kids. Agree though, keeper and right back definitely the priority given they're starting XI positions yet to be filled.
Doesn't seem to be much expectation about Sligo this season, maybe it was more about the standard last year, they took virtually all of the summer off, still finished 3rd?
Even though it was never going to happen, Dundalk at one point had 'a chance' of finishing 4th, but 6th was a fair reflection on the season, we were in 8th for 3 weeks I think, possibly 9th also for 2 weeks.
Sligo lads, who is your hope for scoring goals then with Kenny gone, surely the club will spend to replace given you are in europe?
Johnny Kenny confirmed to Celtic on a 5 year deal..
A 5-year deal is great for him. I know he had a good year at Sligo, but that's a great deal he's got for himself