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02/04/2007, 8:20 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by quay heart

so is there a proper structure at underage level ?

With all due respects, the answer to that is no. However, it was worse some years ago when Westport teams plummeted to the bottom divisions at underage level.

Since 2000, only one Westport United player made the Mayo Kennedy Cup squad and no player in that time, to my knowledge, have had trials in England. Most of the FAI Junior Cup squad played in the Kennedy Cup. In the last seven years, scouts have been attracted to Mayo footballers like bees to a honeypot and there has been a serious number of schoolboy international footballers coming from clubs as diverse as Ballina Town, Ballinrobe Town, Ballyglass, Castlebar Celtic, Erris United, Kiltimagh/Knock United and Manulla. Castlebar Celtic are starting from 6 years of age and are reapng the rewards for their underage policy, one of the big three in the province alongside Mervue United and Salthill Devon.

An excellent underage structure would be the twelve year plan, from 6-18 year olds, in which a system is put in place with the appropriate coaches to implement sessions that are consistent to the age category under the FAI Technical Plan. Phase 1 is the FUNdamental Phase from 6-9 years of age, implemented by Kick Start One coaches. Phase 2 is the Learning to Train Phase from 9-12 years of age, implemented by Kick Start Two coaches. Phase 3 is the Training to Train Phase from 12-16 years of age and Phase 4, the Training to Compete Phase from 16-18 years of age. Both these phases are implemented by Youth Cert coaches. Phase 5, the Training to Win Phase covers adult footballers, which is the graduation of the underage talent into the senior set-up. Phase 6 is the retainment phase and this can apply to underage to help them develop skills in coaching/administration/refereeing.
02/04/2007, 8:24 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by The-Beer-Baron

what were the results over the weekend?

Vinny O'Malley netted the only goal as Westport United thrashed Crossmolina 1-0.:D The B team drew 0-0 against Celtic B and by all accounts, should have won!!:)
02/04/2007, 8:27 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by renovater

When they come from Galway Hibs and Corrib Rangers unless they want to play in there winter league they will have to leave by 31st July OR stay untill the 1st of january.:)

It is only the midfielder coming. Don't know what their intentions are R.E. 31st July or 1st January. The gaffer might explain that one.
02/04/2007, 9:21 PM
terrier

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Originally Posted by renovater

I am sure the youths of Westport will take an interesting view on this one.
I suppose they wont show it there accounts anyway, if they were paid:)

accounts !!! they chose not too show certain accounts at the agm......which stands for "accounts go missing".:D
02/04/2007, 9:29 PM
terrier

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

With all due respects, the answer to that is no. However, it was worse some years ago when Westport teams plummeted to the bottom divisions at underage level.

Since 2000, only one Westport United player made the Mayo Kennedy Cup squad and no player in that time, to my knowledge, have had trials in England. Most of the FAI Junior Cup squad played in the Kennedy Cup. In the last seven years, scouts have been attracted to Mayo footballers like bees to a honeypot and there has been a serious number of schoolboy international footballers coming from clubs as diverse as Ballina Town, Ballinrobe Town, Ballyglass, Castlebar Celtic, Erris United, Kiltimagh/Knock United and Manulla. Castlebar Celtic are starting from 6 years of age and are reapng the rewards for their underage policy, one of the big three in the province alongside Mervue United and Salthill Devon.
An excellent underage structure would be the twelve year plan, from 6-18 year olds, in which a system is put in place with the appropriate coaches to implement sessions that are consistent to the age category under the FAI Technical Plan. Phase 1 is the FUNdamental Phase from 6-9 years of age, implemented by Kick Start One coaches. Phase 2 is the Learning to Train Phase from 9-12 years of age, implemented by Kick Start Two coaches. Phase 3 is the Training to Train Phase from 12-16 years of age and Phase 4, the Training to Compete Phase from 16-18 years of age. Both these phases are implemented by Youth Cert coaches. Phase 5, the Training to Win Phase covers adult footballers, which is the graduation of the underage talent into the senior set-up. Phase 6 is the retainment phase and this can apply to underage to help them develop skills in coaching/administration/refereeing.

so whats being done?
02/04/2007, 10:01 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by terrier

so whats being done?

The usual.
03/04/2007, 12:05 AM
west awake

i believe the goalkeeper is galway hibs 2nd choice mark cobey and the midfielder is jonny o brien from corrib rangers!

and yes they are getting paid!
03/04/2007, 7:56 AM
gazza2

West awake again spreading rumours that are not true. These players will not be getting paid.
As your from Galway and the Gaffers from Galway why not contact him and he will give ya the truth.
03/04/2007, 8:47 AM
irishyop

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

Vinny O'Malley netted the only goal as Westport United thrashed Crossmolina 1-0.:D The B team drew 0-0 against Celtic B and by all accounts, should have won!!:)

TB - Ask the Westport keeper who should have won!!! He made 2 great saves and a sitter was missed by Celtic!"!!! :p
03/04/2007, 6:00 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by irishyop

TB - Ask the Westport keeper who should have won!!! He made 2 great saves and a sitter was missed by Celtic!"!!! :p

And the dents made to the Celtic goalpost from the ball whacking it!!:p :D
03/04/2007, 9:11 PM
terrier

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

The usual.

typical...i feel so sorry for the kids,how many underage teams in westport being coached by a parent of a child on the team tb?
04/04/2007, 8:13 AM
irishyop

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

And the dents made to the Celtic goalpost from the ball whacking it!!:p :D

The post moved towards the ball, FACT ;)
05/04/2007, 3:14 PM
west awake

the hibs goalie will now not be going to westport!fact
05/04/2007, 11:59 PM
The-Beer-Baron

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Originally Posted by terrier

typical...i feel so sorry for the kids,how many underage teams in westport being coached by a parent of a child on the team tb?

i know of a few anyway. my brothers team is managed by one of the kids parents and to be honest i woudnt say the parent has any qualifications from what i have seen of his managerial ability. he also plays his child all the time even though there are far better players on the bench. its just not fair to the kids and something must be done.
08/04/2007, 1:11 AM
renovater

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Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

I don't think you're the first person in the world to say that and definitely not the last. It is very true with that statement. Person A would look after a team, organise training, have two laps as a warmup, pick two teams and throw in a ball for training.

The coach, Person B, would incorporate a warmup that is between unstructured, semi structured and structured with or without a football and may include SAQ. The session would take on exercises concerning different techniques of the game and it could work on aspects of the game like shadow play and set pieces and may finish up with a conditioned or normal game followed by a warmdown. A good coach should log his sessions; organise preparation sheets and session planners and keep a copy of his player's medical sheet. He must have drinks and a first aid kit with him and provide the kids with a diet/stretch sheet.

That is something our Mayo Community games need to pick up on.
08/04/2007, 1:25 AM
renovater

[QUOTE=terrier;658927]accounts !!! they chose not too show certain accounts at the agm......which stands for "accounts go missing".::TE]
Thanks Terrier your welcome on board. you have confirmed what I all ready new.
Now its out in the open.regards to players coming from GALWAY including the Gaffer they hardly doing it out of the good of Westport.If that was true then they must be gone soft in Galway, which I respectively doubt.
regards to going back at the start of there new season, that is also out as they would be tied to this league untill 1st jan or they could go 31st july, which would be a wasted of time.
By the way what do you intend to do with the 10,000 euros apart from buying toilet rolls.:cool:
08/04/2007, 1:32 AM
renovater

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Originally Posted by west awake

i believe the goalkeeper is galway hibs 2nd choice mark cobey and the midfielder is jonny o brien from corrib rangers!

and yes they are getting paid!

so come on tell us more :p like to here how they become the next castlebar celtic
open the flood gates players will start to leave if they see there places been taken. whats more as you say.they are geting pa--yed .How would you feel siting next to one who get'n pa--yed.
go on spill the beans
08/04/2007, 1:37 AM
renovater

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Originally Posted by west awake

the hibs goalie will now not be going to westport!fact

Was he right!! he wasn't get'n paid or was it not enough, or was it he was stuck in Mayo when the new season started.
go on tell a galway man ;)
08/04/2007, 1:44 AM
renovater

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Originally Posted by The-Beer-Baron

i know of a few anyway. my brothers team is managed by one of the kids parents and to be honest i woudnt say the parent has any qualifications from what i have seen of his managerial ability. he also plays his child all the time even though there are far better players on the bench. its just not fair to the kids and something must be done.

This appears very sad, would this be u-14 parent manager of A-team sounds like him.
I don't think any parent should run kids team unless they take teams that have none of there own involved, and also sit there coaching badges.
Otherwise its not in the interest of the other kids who are playing.:mad:
08/04/2007, 5:08 PM
Thunderblaster

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Originally Posted by terrier

how many underage teams in westport being coached by a parent of a child on the team tb?

Last year there were seven underage teams coached by parents.

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