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No conor was. My understanding from his comments is that kenny indicated he rested an semi injured McCarthy. With no reference to jeff an conor, so he actually dropped jeff and conor. Whether you or me like it or not James McCarthy will start against Slovakia.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
On a side note did Conor, jeff , arter or anyone else anchor an FA winning midfield including beating Manchester city in the final.....#fact !
Nope you have me there. And also they didn't get relegated in the same season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Diggs i thought the consensus on here was they weren't dropped? No one was technically dropped? Are you just putting 2 and 2 together?
"Kenny said that a decision to change his entire midfield was not a reaction any performances in Thursday's draw with Bulgaria, suggesting that both Jeff Hendrick and James McCarthy needed their game-time managed."
Hourihane i think could have played himself out of the squad nevermind the team!
No they didn't as none them were anywhere near the premier leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
I thought he only name checked McCarthy re " we have to mind him" or the like no? and the other 2 weren't referenced... just not pickedQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Fair enough, I didn't know his referenced Jeff as well, so Jeff is off the hook!, its very damning of Conor isn't it though?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Not great alright diggsy.
He must be really committed to playing this character because I was him and I didn't want to play football I'd just put me feet up and not worry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
There were a lot of players under those teams who didn't bother showing up for games if they weren't arsed. They didn't show up injured and "look after themselves" by, em, exposing themselves to a risk of injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Pretty sure I remember McCarthy being involved in a heavy enough looking 50/50 tackle in the first half against Bulgaria too, just a week after getting injured in a similar collision. Anyway, I really shouldn't be giving this ludicrous theory oxygen by arguing the point.
Is it really that damning of Hourihane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Yeah, he was and he knew he was getting hit by committing to it and ended up down. Could have avoided and didn't, risked another injury instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Damning might be a bit strong. But if I was conor I would be nervous and not expecting to start v Slovakia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
We cant afford pedestrians players. Conor disappears for large parts of the game. Jeff does too but jeff has had some world class moments. I wouldnt play either of them
I think his place is on the line alright. I suspect it'll be McCarthy and Hendrick and AN Other, probably Arter, but there's no finesse in there really unless McCarthy really brings his A game. And no set piece threat either, which unfortunately we need. I think we're all a bit in the dark still about what the line up will be.
Agreed. Imo we dont have the players for 433 and should be playing 451 ( mcgoldrick in the hole) with a very fast 9Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Yeah. We also have to remember that all teams that pull off 4-3-3 have ball playing centre backs. When the team is in possession the centre-backs essentially function as deep lying midfielders and provide an outlet for possession. It's a form of defending by never losing the ball. Barca 2011 had Pique and Mascherano, Ajax 1995 had Blind and Rijkaard. This is how they were able to dominate centre midfield without playing extra central midfielders: their centre-backs morphed into extra centre midfielders. Mascherano himself was actually a midfielder of course, as was Rijkaard.
We have Duffy and Egan. They are great defenders, but ball playing deep lying midfielders they are not. So we do both them and our midfielders a disservice with 4-3-3. And opposition managers know this.
world class perfromance so far. Assists for the goal today
Townsend was credited with the assist
It was not the primary assist but McCarthy’s intervention allowed the counterattack to happen. Good reading of the game.