FAI Junior Cup 2007/08

Very unfair comments there on redcastle, if you read back on previous games in previous rounds you will find that Pike had absolutley no complaints about officials at their game against redcastle.

a home 3-1 win to redcastle made me take a closer look to find they only conceded one goal so far.

No mean achievement.

And the bookies still havent kopped on to it. they are still on crazy odds.

of course they can have a bad day like anyone and this competition doesn't forgive that like the intermediate does, but they appear to be the real deal.

one question, i heard a very rich fella is behind them, are the players redcastle have the pick of kildrum and fanad and qps etc?

yes there is money behind them, but they won't have the pick of Fanad players, given the 1hr plus distance between the 2. They will have a few from Quigleys Point I'd say and maybe Kildrum, not to mention being close to the border. A team that definitely deserves more respect than its getting on here at the moment IMO

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Originally Posted by EAFC_rdfl

yes there is money behind them, but they won't have the pick of Fanad players, given the 1hr plus distance between the 2. They will have a few from Quigleys Point I'd say and maybe Kildrum, not to mention being close to the border. A team that definitely deserves more respect than its getting on here at the moment IMO

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Are they paying players?

7 or 8 quality players nowhere near enough.

Killester have a squad of 20 that would get into most other Top Junior Sides.

Plus they are defending champions.

They have been known to choke once or twice in the big games in the past but they seem to have put that behind them now.

Still a banker I.M.O.

would tend to agree with the doc on this;maybe an away trip to michaels carrick or clonmel would stop killester but outside of that they are too big a price imo

A bit further south maybe,I for one would'nt mind seein how Killester would get on playin in O'Neill Park against the Gratts down in Cork.;)

dr mad to say killester are a banker is going a bit far imho, i have seen them a few times this season and while they are an excellent side they are not unbeatable, no team wins a cup without getting a bit of luck on the way. They are a certainly hot favourites but i wouldnt be putting my mortgage on them especially not in this competition where a combination of an away trip, hometown referee, bad pitch, an off day and opposition rising to the occasion could all conspire against them

Its amazing where people get their information from.There is not one player from fanad,kildrum or quigleys point playing for redcastle. most are from the area and the rest have moved into the area.Their boss might have money but believe you me he is not foolish with it.Our players dont get paid,full stop.
At 33/1 it might not be long before we are all rich up here.

In reply to the gentleman who asks, how many Redcastle players are in the Inishowen team.Well i have the answer right here in front of me.There was 8 started against Galway two weeks ago and there was 2 on the bench. Against Donegal there were 7 on the team and 3 on the bench. They won both matches.
But that means nothing if you have a bad day.

I simply asked the question, I didn't state that they were, i asked. I suppose I am interested to know where they came from as a team/club. As I said their results have been impressive.

Anyone would love a shot of Killester, and no one would fancy a form team like redcastle who they knew very little about.

I would like to wish all the smaller clubs success in the next rd.We are a small club and its a great achievement to get this far.Well done everyone including the bigger named clubs.A special good luck to Milford utd.
I heard that the weather forecast is not so good.Pity.It doesnt help either team.:)

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I would like to wish all the smaller clubs success in the next rd.We are a small club and its a great achievement to get this far.Well done everyone including the bigger named clubs.A special good luck to Milford utd.
I heard that the weather forecast is not so good.Pity.It doesnt help either team.:)

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How is the weather in your part of the country, i believe there is some ferocious weather in cluding a storm in the next day or two.

And whats your general view on milford united, they have had a fantastic run and a great win in dungarvin. have you seen milford this year?

:)Weather is bad at the minute.But if weather is ok on sun then pitch shud be ok.Dont know much about Milford.They are donegal league. We are Inishowen league.

forgive me for speaking out of turn here but before i read the posts about redcastle i heard about there team from someone who lives in the area, i had heard that they were backed heavily financially but more importantly had players coming from as far away as derry to play football there, This came from someone who would know there football and seemed to know quiet abit about the league up there and redcastle, so it seems that maybe there are players travelling and there is more to it than meets the eye?? all the same best of luck to them in the remaining rounds, it would be good to see them get killester at home then as everyone seems to talk about killesters great players and redcastles mean defence :D:D

jug2004
av you any idea how far it is from redcastle to derry. 8 to 10 miles.redcastle have travelled 10 times that distance in the earlier stages of this cup and were still playing in donegal.

On mature reflection of course inexile is right in that there are many slips that can happen, especially in Junior Cup with away games, questionable refs, etc, etc. Also what is a big disappointment to me is that the overall standard seems to have slipped nationally in the last couple of years. I would agree that Killester are not unbeatable and indeed having participated in the Junior Cup for over 20 years I would say they are one of the weakest champions and would not live with the great Fairview or Cherry Orchard teams for example. However, they are a very very solid side who travel well, have 20 excellent fit and tough players to choose from, have 2 of the most lethal strikers in the country in Lacey and Keogh, pace throughout the side, and the way they structure their first and second teams with guys often doubling up means that they are also a very close and team spirited bunch. On the negative side their back 4 are slow and limited (and in some cases overweight) and can definitely be got at. A team brave enough to go hell for leather at them may get a result.

And by the way absolutely no disrespect intended to Redcastle or any of the other “lesser known” sides left in the competition when I still say Killester will win it (and believe me it hurts to say that).

I think St. Michaels of Tipp are dark horses, if Killester and Michaels were to meet i'd fancy Michaels. I know lacey and Keogh of Killester are probably best strickers in Country at the moment but Michaels have 2 of the best Defenders in Walsh and Breeno too. They have a good understanding between them and are also playing on the Junior/Amateur Intl. team aswell so if these 2 were to meet in Tipp i'd fancy Michaels.

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I think St. Michaels of Tipp are dark horses, if Killester and Michaels were to meet i'd fancy Michaels. I know lacey and Keogh of Killester are probably best strickers in Country at the moment but Michaels have 2 of the best Defenders in Walsh and Breeno too. They have a good understanding between them and are also playing on the Junior/Amateur Intl. team aswell so if these 2 were to meet in Tipp i'd fancy Michaels.

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If so why are they not top of their league. CT going for 5 in a row. Are St. M a cup side. I know they have a great history and always one of the teams to beat in the Junior cup but based on what you are saying surely they should have won their league in the last 4 years or am I missing something.

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If so why are they not top of their league. CT going for 5 in a row. Are St. M a cup side. I know they have a great history and always one of the teams to beat in the Junior cup but based on what you are saying surely they should have won their league in the last 4 years or am I missing something.

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Just that in my opinion i think Michaels are a good shout. Alright.

Any Word On How Bad That Weather Was All Night And Today In Donegal?

No the weather is ****e an will either get worse or just stay ****e.I checked 3 different sites an one even gave me a picture on a web cam of the weather in Moyville an it was'nt very cheerful.Bring a rain jacket a flair a brolly if your goin.Football may take a back seat to the weather again this weekend.

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No the weather is ****e an will either get worse or just stay ****e.I checked 3 different sites an one even gave me a picture on a web cam of the weather in Moyville an it was'nt very cheerful.Bring a rain jacket a flair a brolly if your goin.Football may take a back seat to the weather again this weekend.

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I doubt there is any chance Milford will not allow their pitch go ahead or prehaps move to Letterkenny?

just because you are not winning your league does not mean that you have what it takes to win the cup, fair enough Michaels have not been winning their league but leagues are based on consistency over a long period of time, when you look at head to head with clonmel town for instance in the bigger games MJC etc which there have been quiet a few of in the past number of years you will see that Michaels have the upper hand. They tend to take their eye off the league for some reason and get caught napping in leser games which costs them, but believe me Michaels should be second favourites to win this cup now with a scatter of international players and are probably the strongest defence left in the comp they are in with the best shout apart from killester i feel. Cup winners are often cuilt on great defences and in Michaels defence (back 4 & keeper) 4 of them have been capped at junior level in the past 5 years. Michaels to have killester in the final i think all going to plan!

:)Todays weather was terrible.Rain sleet and wind.Forecast bad for tomorrow.But i think it is to improve over the weekend.Match should go ahead.

Lovely, ps: your surname wouldn't be de rossa by any chance would it?

I dont know if i'd agree with ya jugs but thems the joys.Over half of whats left was'nt in last years 16 and for a change their seems to be a lot sides playin very well at the minute.Theirs 3 of us for a change from the rebel HQ in the last 16 an none of them has conceeded many goals.We are'nt lackin behind in the international caps either.

Plenty of fight left in the rest of the country still.

:)I dont think da Rossa will be too worried about junior football in donegal or any where else.These teams with supposedly international players. why are they playing junior football?Why are they not playing in the league of ireland.

there is another team in co tipp/co waterford who you (jugs):rolleyes: should not underestimate who have experience of going through the rounds to the final and have learnt more from losing a final than the likes of killester might learn from winning one, against a team who they are comfortable playing and beating in their own league. (bosco, who were relegated , when killester were champs):confused:

If Killester are going to be mentioned in the same breath as past champions like Farview and Cherry Orchard( honourable mention to Portmarnock too) then they must win it again this year and next year! I think they have it all to prove and show last year was not just a flash in the pan.

By the way I agree that the standard has dropped in terms of the top teams but in fairness there has not been too many era's with teams of the quality of those Fairview and Cherry Orchard sides. On the other hand because there are no real stand out sides, it makes for a more competitive and interesting cup with 5 or 6 teams in with a realistic shout. I think the winner will come from Killester, Michaels, Carrick, Redcastle or Grattan. Sneaky feeling towards Carrick:ball:

Does anyone know wots the story about using umbro footballs in these stages of the cup .Does the fai or the sponsors supply them.Heard a rumour that clubs must use umbro footballs and must buy them themselves.Bit unfair.:(

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Does anyone know wots the story about using umbro footballs in these stages of the cup .Does the fai or the sponsors supply them.Heard a rumour that clubs must use umbro footballs and must buy them themselves.Bit unfair.:(

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you must use umbro footballs in all fai junior matches from round 1 til the final,the ref can refuse 2 play the game without an umbro football,umbro provided every club that entered the comp with 1 umbro football,the idea that every club would have 2 buy a few more off them,i think the home team must have 3 umbro matchballs and the away team 1 for every match!

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:)I dont think da Rossa will be too worried about junior football in donegal or any where else.These teams with supposedly international players. why are they playing junior football?Why are they not playing in the league of ireland.

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I know for fact that these players have been asked and have turned down LOI, and i don't blame them either. From experience LOI isn't the great (first div) anyway.

I dont know if the kind gentlemen from outside the reble Hq were handin balls out to clubs willy nilly for the Fai but they certainly wer'nt doin it in Cork.We were offered the Umbro balls at a DISCOUNT price (a choice of 2 different qualitys) for 40 and 55 euro by our League commitee,who inturn bought them in bulk from Umbro.We bought 4 of the 55 euro ball.

Furthermore to the point of using Umbro balls in each round,this too is a joke.In the 5 rounds we have played to date only New Ross seemed to have the required amount for the game.Mitre/Errea and Nike balls have been used in the games we have played and only once have we been asked by a ref if we had Umbro balls.And their's me panicin for each game thinkin the Fai/Umbro police are goin to jump out from behind a ditvh durin the game to check for the correct balls.Utter ****e.

To add insult to injury we had to reach the quaters last year before we had the pleasure of receiving 2 FREE,and they were the cheap ones too.So if we by chance are lucky enough to win our next game and book a place in the Quaters with the promise of another 2FREE Umbro balls(the cheap ones again no doubt) I will take great pleasure in tellin them where to shove their Umbro balls.

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Originally Posted by littleman

I dont know if the kind gentlemen from outside the reble Hq were handin balls out to clubs willy nilly for the Fai but they certainly wer'nt doin it in Cork.We were offered the Umbro balls at a DISCOUNT price (a choice of 2 different qualitys) for 40 and 55 euro by our League commitee,who inturn bought them in bulk from Umbro.We bought 4 of the 55 euro ball.

Furthermore to the point of using Umbro balls in each round,this too is a joke.In the 5 rounds we have played to date only New Ross seemed to have the required amount for the game.Mitre/Errea and Nike balls have been used in the games we have played and only once have we been asked by a ref if we had Umbro balls.And their's me panicin for each game thinkin the Fai/Umbro police are goin to jump out from behind a ditvh durin the game to check for the correct balls.Utter ****e.

To add insult to injury we had to reach the quaters last year before we had the pleasure of receiving 2 FREE,and they were the cheap ones too.So if we by chance are lucky enough to win our next game and book a place in the Quaters with the promise of another 2FREE Umbro balls(the cheap ones again no doubt) I will take great pleasure in tellin them where to shove their Umbro balls.

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Wow, what a rant!! :D
Honestly, you're right. We played games in the competition this year and didn't use Umbro balls. We asked the ref if the Mitre balls were ok to use and his response was, " I couldn't give a s**t " !! :rolleyes:

:D:DWhat a load of balls,t'is lucky VIAGRA dont sponsor the Fai,we'd all have a horn Sunday mornin an we could play with any ol ball hahahahahahahahahah:D

I wonder what the competition authority make of this:-)

On the mention of the rules, the enforcement only happens from the last 64 onwards.

Id imagine this rule exists due to the increase in interest from that stage onward.

A QUESTION, has anyone who has ever won this competition replicated the cup for their club house etc? odd quesiton I know, but if you were lucky enough to win it, you wouldn't be happy handing it over after a year. A nice copy would come in handy.

Well we were given one free Umbro ball at our league match the week before our 1st game (and last :() in the FAI this year, playin in the Roscommon&district btw, don't remember bein forced to use it though!

Would we dare to mention it,that MITRE are a far better ball and that most of us would swear by um.The alarm bells are ringin in Merrion Square as we speak because I said the word Mitre,imagine if I mentioned the K word.:D

ah feck it KEANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Back to the serious stuff,how strong is the Mayo league.Is it on a par with the Limerick/Tipp and Dubs or what,any help will be appriciated.

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Would we dare to mention it,that MITRE are a far better ball and that most of us would swear by um.The alarm bells are ringin in Merrion Square as we speak because I said the word Mitre,imagine if I mentioned the K word.:D

ah feck it KEANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Back to the serious stuff,how strong is the Mayo league.Is it on a par with the Limerick/Tipp and Dubs or what,any help will be appriciated.

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Mayo League is crap only one team Westport Utd (2005 FAI Champions). Only one winner of Connacht JC in last 18 years. Where is Grattan Utd pitch and what facilities do they have, stand clubhouse with bar etc Whats the pitch like.

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Mayo League is crap only one team Westport Utd (2005 FAI Champions). Only one winner of Connacht JC in last 18 years. Where is Grattan Utd pitch and what facilities do they have, stand clubhouse with bar etc Whats the pitch like.

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Agreed. Celtic talk the talk but dont walk...........