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Goal above, very slow to load though, good finish.
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i saw the he was sent off earlier and i thought colbert report would be on saying how crap he was because he got sent off. I then loggedback onto bbc and saw he scored and thought colbert report will be on saying how great a player he is blah blah blah.
Just logged on now and the the thread i saaw under the ireland forum was "james mcarthy" with colbert report as the last replied. haahahahahahahahahahahah :D
The penalty he won is on the video, made a nusiance of himself, got pulled down in the box.
A bit stupid as he would have never have got the ball.
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That is hilarious Tets!!!
Buy a sense of humour mate! I was only trying to wind up SkStu, and it worked every time. When's the last time we had an eighteen/nineteen year old starting and scoring in the Premiership?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
in fairness I know u were havin a laugh with todays comment but my god some of those other comments are just beyond beliefQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
And Colbert hopefully some of your good juju for being dead wrong and overly analytical spreads to Stokes. Karma works is strange ways. I wouldnt mind if you threw some insults Terry Dixons way if you get the chance.
He deserves serious credit. How many players would have thrown their toys out of the pram when they only got a couple of games in their first 5 montsh at their new club. He has knuckeled down and now he is seeing the benefit of that. I do think Martinez is a perfect manager for him at this stage in his career.
Yes, being a regular in a side that won the champions league, lost in another champions league final and have won four leagues. God O'Shea really had some disgraceful seasons after his first one:rolleyes:. In each of those '****e' years he played at least 30 league games, with the exception of 04/05, where he started 23, and 07/08 where he started 28. Yes he had some very bad performances in those years but to say he was ****e for years is a bit of a joke. I don't know why I always tend to bite when i see your posts:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
Players who are 19? Zero. Not one.Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
Most 19 year olds that have been sold for some 2 million, and after playing 95 games find themselves not getting a game for months would generally kick up a little bit of a fussQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Of course, if that is the case, it raises the question of why you were going out of your way to wind me up in the first place. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Ah well, carry on. Good to know you ("secretly") agreed with me throughout it all.
This one of the better posts that bohsRap should have used as an example of how you are ruining this forum. Lots of negative opinions about Irish players that generally don't match up with the real facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
O'Shea has been injured for a large part of this season so it's unfair to use any stats but last season he played 54 games and the majority were as a starter. So he could harld be considered as a sub.
Also to say he should go to a team like Newcastle or Villa is a bit bizzare as both are in different divisions.
I know you are only a WUM and I shouldnt take the bait but i happend to have 10 spare minutes :D
Mostly agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
There's no point in hyping McCarthy up to be this sort of wunderkid that we can build up, and then tear down when he has a poor game. Having said that (and I hope I don't jinx him), I think McCarthy is one of our better prospects and I think he'll at very least be part of the Irish set-up in years to come.
O'Shea hasn't merely been a sub for all these years. You horrendous bore.
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Originally Posted by Jicked
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply, but anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by yapster
John O'Shea appearance stats for the last 4 seasons
Code:2009-2010 Home Away Total
Starting Player: Starts: 6 7 13
Completed Games: 6 6 12
Substitutions: 0 1 1
Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 2 2 4
Introductions: 1 1 2
Unused Substitute 1 1 2
2008-2009 Home Away Total
Starting Player: Starts: 20 22 42
Completed Games: 16 19 35
Substitutions: 4 3 7
Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 12 8 20
Introductions: 8 4 12
Unused Substitute: 4 4 8
2007-2008 Home Away Total
Starting Player: Starts: 10 7 17
Completed Games: 8 5 13
Substitutions: 2 2 4
Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 20 16 36
Introductions: 8 11 19
Unused Substitute: 12 5 17
2006-2007 Home Away Total
Starting Player: Starts: 13 13 26
Completed Games: 13 11 24
Substitutions: 0 2 2
Substitute Player: Started On Bench: 15 15 30
Introductions: 9 13 22
Unused Substitute: 6 2 8
Your stats are obviously way off. John O'Shea hasn't played since November 18 2009 and yet you expect me to believe that he's completed 35 games so far this season? Even if you add in all the pre-season and cup games Manchester United hadn't played anywhere near that by November 18.
The 2008-09 stats appear to be up there twice.
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Originally Posted by yapster
Although I shouldn't bother, here is a list of players who are in and out of Man Utd's first team, just as O'Shea is, on account of Ferguson's very succesfull squad rotation.
Neville
Brown
Anderson
Berbatov
Giggs
Fletcher
Scholes
Carrick
Owen
Nani
Fabio/Rafael
Evans
Fletcher
Park Ji Sung
Tevez (last season)
Valencia
In fact the only players you can guarantee on being in Ferguson's side on match day are Rooney, Van der Sar, Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra. Every other spot is in rotation for even the biggest games. Even some of Ferguson's favourites like Carrick and Fletcher are left out depending on the opposition. The guy started 42 games last year for Man Utd.
But yeah, he's nothing but a sub, he should have showed a little ambition and won the Championship this year with Newcastle like you suggested. You're one clued up football fan alright, I'm sure you have a barstool reserved for you in your local pub you're so knowledgeable and take your football supporting so seriously. You know, the one with no-one around it on account of how incredibly stupid your opinions are.
Seems to be but afair O'Shea was an ever present in the Man U team this season as a starting player up to the time he was injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Here opinions are regarded as facts and facts when presented are regarded as an inconvenience.
No doubt the goalposts will be shifted to claiming (fact based claim of course) that any appearance of O'Shea in the starting line up was because every other defender was unavailable - due to being injured/shot/druggged/suspended/ Ferguson obsession with Josh.
Weird i thought this was a thread about James Mccarthy
Did you not see the stats i put up. He has in almost every season, STARTED at least 30 league games. The most he can start is 38. Only two seasons he started less that 30, and he was in the 20s for those seasons. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but it is a wrong opinion. Even yesterday looking at Gary Neville, it is evident how much O'Shea is missed at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by yapster
Edit: lets get this thread back to McCarthy. I think I am at nothing showing the stats to you, you obviously wont change your opinion
I'm not reading the whole debate but JOS is one of Man United most influential players these days, unquestionably number 1 right back at the moment and they're suffering without him.
my bad, original post updated with the correct stats for 2009-2010Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Incidentally, until his injury, O'Shea had stared all but 6 games of United's games at that point
The games he didn't start were:
- 22 August VS Wigan Introduced on 72 minutes
- 15 September VS Besiktas Not in squad
- 23 September VS Wolves Not in squad (League Cup)
- 17 October VS Bolton Introduced on 83 minutes
- 27 October VS Barnsley Unused substitute (League Cup)
- 3 November VS CSKA Moscow Unused Substitute
Any post match comments from McCarthy or from Martinez on McCarthy's performance?
Went to the game yesterday and McCarthy looked class. Proper box to box player and looks like a complete all-rounder in the Gerard/Lampard mould. Obviously scored a good goal, but also played a beautiful ball to release Rogdallega who should have made it 3-0. He's definitely filled out since moving down here and is a lot taller than I expected (looks to be about 6ft/6.1). Definitely has the self-confidence to be a top, top player and on that showing I seriously think we have something special on our hands. Having been equally impressed with McCann at Burnley whan I saw him I reckon these two in the middle (let alone the development of players like Meyler, Clifford etc) will mean that we have our centre midfield sorted for the next ten years. Cap him in the first competitive game we have - I won't be happy until we have 100% assurance that he's ours.
As for the Wolves Irish, Ward was one of our better players although got skinned by N'Zogbia (who was class) for the 2nd goal, Foley is not a winger, although will hopefully get his chance at Rightback after that reckless eejit Stearman got sent off and Doyle held the ball up well but didn't get a lot of service, with the fans now baying for Keogh to come back from injury after Ebanks Blake had another nightmare. All in all, sh*te and McCarthy/Morgan have to seriously spend some money on Premiership quality rather than championship deadwood if we are going to stay in this division. Although Keogh (rather stupidly) said in the post-match presentation that he knew that Stephen Hunt wanted to come to us - which would be a step in the right direction.
EBB seems to be shot of confidence alright, cant see him turning it around this season. Is Keogh really rated highly by the Wolves fans? Am not convinced but he did start the season very well for Wolves before the injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf
Martinez's post-match interview is here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lenny82
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ic/8463555.stm
He was asked about McCarthy about 01.30 in and had some complimentary things to say about James. "We all know what he's capable of and what talent he has". "We will see a lot more from him".
watched the game in full yesterday. Agree totally with your summary MIW. His touch and passing in those tight triangle situations in midfield was remarkable. He managed to be in the right place at the right time in the box on quite a few occasions and he could have had more than one goal yesterday in truth. He is going to be an awesome player with some more fitness and experience in the premier league. Great to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf
Ward was good, you can still see the winger in him but that said his positioning is surprisingly good. Again, more experience and we will have a viable solution for LB.
Having witnessed the failings and limitations of their messiah this season (SEB), a lot of the moronic boo-boys seem like they are finally beginning to realise how much Keogh actually contributes to the team. First and foremost he is an intelligent footballer who brings other players into the team well with his interlinking play, runs down the channels and relentless workrate - as opposed to SEB who is the classic last shoulder striker, but does not have the work rate, runs or seemingly football intelligence to do anything else (I'm not writing him off completely as he is young enough to improve). Keogh's problem is that he is not a natural goalscorer (but may improve), however as is being argued by most these days, it is better to have someone up front who doesn't score contributing something, rather than nothing. Every one realises that Doyle is a class above, so the supply line to him is the most important thing, plus Keogh creating space is more likely to create openings for the likes of Milijas and Kightly (who always plays better with Keogh linking up with him) to score, much like Doyle and Keane do for the Irish midfield. Doyle and Keogh looked like they had a good connection when we played Sunderland - so hopefully they'll be able to reunite that shortly. Having said that, we desperately need to buy another striker - however overall Keogh looks to have found the step easier than SEB.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Hopefully a goal in the premiership will shut the idiots up for a while at least.
I've always been impressed by Keogh, when he played at club level. His workrate is wonderful. Obviously he needs a bit more composure in front of goal but I reckon that will come. At international level, I can't really remember him been given a chance is his proper position. One thing for sure is he is not a winger. I've seen him criticised on here for his performances for Ireland which is unfair as he is always played out of position. Hopefully he will be back soon. Great to see McCarthy making progress and now we need McCann to recover soon and start showing he can do it at the highest level.
I think it's your interpretative ability that is way off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Took his goal brilliantly, looked pretty composed in slotting it away, if only he'd followed up the penalty instead of Sharner.
Although, I'd say the ref's been reading this forum if he thought that McCarthy running away from goal toward a high bouncing ball was a direct goalscoring chance to send Stearman off.
Don't think it was a straight red. He had been booked earlier on in the game so I think that was his second yellow card.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoenz
yeah, it was a second yellow.
The Brazil match would be nice for his debut for the Senior team, if he keeps this form up he could be in with a shout.
McGeady made his debut against Jamaica at a time when Scotland were making overtures for him to declare for them (read before he was brought to a meeting with Berti Vogts) which tied him to us, and allowed him to continue with the U21's without the debate about his international allegiance brewing around him.
I know the rules have changed slightly, but I'd have no problems at all with McCarthy coming on to receive a long kick out in the final minute of the Brazil game if it ended the same talk that's going on with him.