Where were you the other night when it took him less than ten minutes to register at Champions League level ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
We needed to know who the opposition were & where were you ?
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Where were you the other night when it took him less than ten minutes to register at Champions League level ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
We needed to know who the opposition were & where were you ?
The same Falkirk that have won five out of five in the Scottish Championship this season, went unbeaten in Scottish League One last season, and knocked out Premiership side Hearts in the last round of the the League Cup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
That Falkirk?
Ah in fairness tets, let's not start talking up unbeaten seasons in the Scottish Third Tier as if it makes them an impressive team. Conor Sammon scored twice against them in the last game of last season for example.
For Idah, it's two goals at a time they were needed (which is good) against a side who'd certainly be English fourth tier at best; maybe even non-league (which is worth pointing out).
And if it helps him develop a goalscoring habit, then I'm fine with him scoring against sides like Falkirk when the chips are down.
We have a lovely habit of trying to justify every decent performance. We all know that football throws up strange cup results and lower division teams can beat better ones. That's a relatively good lower division Scottish team who Celtic were in a difficult spot against until Idah got the goals. He has a nice habit of getting some timely important goals since he went there last season. It ok to enjoy and not have the constant navel gazing of trying to assess just how much it matters cos of the standard of the opposition.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to note the opposition. It's a fairly big factor like.
Yeah but if he didn't score against them there'd be complaints tooQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The point here isn't Falkirk lads, they're weak by comparison and he'd need to be scoring against them. The point is how absolutely low & lousy it was to pop up here today with that contribution while ignoring the lads goal in the CL in midweek.
If you're going into hypotheticals, it's probably a sign your argument isn't great too begin with...Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I think Crafty's point is much more reasonable
Huh? My point is simple, there are those that complain no matter what he does. We are allowed to fcukin enjoy him scoring no matter who it's againstQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yep - and we're also allowed point out that tets' post wasn't quite the gotcha he thought it was, and that the standard of the opposition is absolutely worth a mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Glad you put him in his place, fair play to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
My comment was Falkirk related. I agree it's better to score against Falkirk than not score against Falkirk.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
And fair play to Adam for CL goal, despite playing just 14 minutes.
But, again, while scoring against Slovan Bratislava is infinitely better than not scoring against Slovan Bratislava, it was hardly seismic given Slovan are 45 places behind Celtic in EUFA's ten-year club rankings and Slovakia is seven adrift of Scotland in the associations list.
Sadly, despite Falkirk's burgeoning status as the raging bull of SPFL, they fail to get a ranking. Now that's low and lousy.
I think the two goals were more impressive when looked at in the context of the situation Celtic were in than in terms of the opposition. A team that's winning away from home against much stronger opposition are going to pack the defence and be hard to break down. He managed it twice in two minutes to turn the game around. The second goal in particular was impressive. I would actually rank those higher than the Champions League goal given that the CL game was already won when he scored.
As always the impressive thing about scoring goals for Celtic isn't the standard of opposition you're scoring against (usually weak), it's being able to take the pressure and responsibility of being in a team and in front of a crowd where you're expected to score, and being able to deliver the expectations.
FWIW, this blogger reckons Falkirk gave Celtic their toughest game this season
https://anordinarybhoy.wordpress.com...-the-big-guns/
Do you reckon it being largely Celtic's second string had anything to do with that? They made eight changes for the game.
Seriously, let's not talk Falkirk up beyond their station. As I said, Idah has matched what Conor Sammon did in May.
Eirambler has it right when he references (as I did in my original post) the situation Celtic were in at the time. Of course, Idah had been on the pitch the previous hour as well - flicking through the Celtic forum, one of their takeaways is maybe their strength in depth isn't great, and Idah could easily have been one of the four players to come off on the hour mark as he hadn't played well to that point. Then it's a different story of course. Of course he did stay on, and he did score twice - such are the vagaries of football. General impressions are it was Kuhn who really turned things around (two goals and two assists after coming on).
And the other thing to take is that Auston Trusty made his first start, and again if the comments about the game showing up Celtic's lack of strength in depth are correct (and there's an awful lot of whiny Celtic fans), then I'd take it Scales' place in the starting XI isn't under immediate threat either, which is no harm.
There it is there, bit of balance, bit of fairness and basic decency towards a fellow human. Even if it had to be dragged & shamed out of you, you did get there. Fair play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Only one Irish player appears to have played for them: Patrick Cregg, apart from the DUP's Sammy Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...k_F.C._playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
There were 3 ex arsenal lads there at the same time: Anto Stokes, Patrick Cregg and Stephen O'Donnell. Might have been others too but those I can remember off the top of my head... <update: Graham Barrett was also there>Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Stephen Bradley, also ex-Arsenal was also there a season later. So at least 5 ex-Arsenal Irish lads
Steve O'Donnell and Patrick Cregg played against Celtic the night Roy Keane got his only Celtic goal. I was at it and I remember Steve O'Donnell swapped shirts with Roy.... the random sh1t you remember sometimes is funny ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Stokes had a great run there on loan scored a serious amount of goals was very exciting on here at the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Tacky. St Johnstone and Ross County next up. It doesn’t get much better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Factually incorrect..... Dortmund are in between those two games, or do you not count them because they arent as good as Bayern Munich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapshot
Lads, get a room. The sexual tension isn't fun for the rest of us to see.
There were at least 24 Irish former Falkirk players according to Transfermarkt, including Jaze Kabia, Aiden Keena, Connor Sammon, Alan Maybury, Danny Rogers, Shane Supple, Alan Kernaghan, Dave McMillan.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
The list OwlsFan mentions is notable Falkirk players - 100 or more appearances or international caps while at the club.
Should have remembered Sammon and McMillan myself obviously. Alan Kernaghan isn't one I'd have thought of though!
Imho John, an early reprimand for Snapshot would be more appropriate. It has been normal practice to update goals or appearances for any Irish international player on this site since it began. Against good teams or bad teams, it doesn’t matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Stu deserved better than the childish sneer in response. The post was worth making.
He did. And yet any kind of actual moderation gets whinging from certain people. So I'll just gently mock him for now, unless he escallates the behaviour.
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Originally Posted by liamoo11
Falkirk FC would have a reputation in Scotland as being a bit "Rangery", so it's somewhat ironic that it was one of the more successful clubs in the storied career of Anto Stokes, given some of his reported links.
In which post am I alleged to have sneered at Stu? Which Stu?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
speak for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I'm not doing any moderating action, so I'm not going back and reading over that, but it'd be nice if we could be less ****ing awful as a forum with the "Irish player has a minor achievement" "That achievement isn't worth a toss" "You're just biased against my favourite player, who will be world class next year" "He's playing in Scotland/League2/the U21s for a reason" "Yer a big wally and your ma smells" kind of ****e that goes on at times. It's just snippy BS. Lots of us are guilty of contributing to some of it at times. Let's just chill. Idah scored. Let's hope it keeps happening a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Sorry - I was talking about the sexual tension. Hard to get the punctuation right when you are typing with one hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Questions need asked of this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
They really don't.
A reprimand for what, Stuttgart88? An opinion about standards in the SPFL Championship? About Adam Idah’s career choices? How have I infringed “normal practice”. Childish sneer? What post was worth making?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Which hand Stuart ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Ireland’s Adam Idah says he can ‘step up a gear’ after notching three goals in two games [extra.ie]
Direct quotes from Idah:
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‘I was delighted with the two goals, but I was probably still a bit annoyed with my performance in the end,’ he said.
‘I thought I probably could have got more goals, that’s the frustrating thing. I know I got two, but there are other things that I’m not really happy about, so it’s a bit of a strange moment for me right now.’
‘I didn’t do much in pre-season. Before anyone jumps on that, that wasn’t me chucking it or anything, it was just how we trained down at Norwich. It’s not as intense down there as it is here. We’re at a big club and we want to be on it.’
‘So, when I came to Celtic, I was probably a week behind, and now I’m getting the minutes in I’m starting to get goals.
‘I feel good now and I’m probably not far behind. I just need to keep sticking with it and I’ll get there.’
‘It was a tough game.’
‘To be fair to them, they came at us really sharp and probably blew us away a bit.
Hes actually had a pretty poor start to the season so hopefully the last week will kick things on for him. He wasnt looking as sharp as last season and his touch wasnt great, we seen it for Ireland too. It was a weird off season for him, he wanted out of Norwich and there was the incident where he didnt turn up for a preseason trip, so it might be taking him a few weeks to get up to speed. Hopefully now with the games coming thick and fast with Europe and League he'll be getting plenty of game time and if his form is anything like last season Id expect plenty of goals this side of Christmas
You could see in his games for Celtic coming up to the international break, and then in the Ireland games, that he wasn't fully match fit. I know he said he wasn't chucking it, but it does look like he wasn't giving 100% in pre season at Norwich. He obviously wanted to go but it has ended up holding him back a bit for the last few weeks.
At least himself and Evan will be considerably more match fit by the time next next internationals roll around and the squad will generally be in a better place along with Cullen being back you'd imagine. Great to see him scoring two games in a row no matter the level