League of Ireland in Europe 2019

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Originally Posted by Asterix

Uefa have no say in what the council do, the Rovers game would only be moved if Dundalk were playing in Dublin on the same night, if Tallaght is unavailable then unles dundalk use the Aviva the Rovers game would't be reversed.

Turner Cross is an option for the third round as well isn't it?

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That is correct, but they do have a say on when home or away legs are played.

I highly doubt that SDCC would row in behind the possible outrage at a fixture reversal and withold a publicly paid for municipal facility that they might like to maximise a return on their investment in the facility. A paying customer is a paying customer if there is a free slot. I dont get the awkwardness around this for you RH and Asterix. Its a potential simple fixture reversal to accomodate 2 teams, one being ranked higher than the other will be given first choice on possible dates that have been alotted to fixtures. Nobody is taking Tallaght away from you!!

As long as peak 6bare prepared to pay a contribution which allows SDCC invest more in the stadium and charge us less annual rent let's take their money.
Every Euro they bring in is a Euro less Sdcc need from us and allows us spend more on the club, first team and acc academy

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

That is correct, but they do have a say on when home or away legs are played.

I highly doubt that SDCC would row in behind the possible outrage at a fixture reversal and withold a publicly paid for municipal facility that they might like to maximise a return on their investment in the facility. A paying customer is a paying customer if there is a free slot. I dont get the awkwardness around this for you RH and Asterix. Its a potential simple fixture reversal to accomodate 2 teams, one being ranked higher than the other will be given first choice on possible dates that have been alotted to fixtures. Nobody is taking Tallaght away from you!!

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If they have a contract that says Rovers can have the stadium they don't have a choice, there isn't necessarily a free slot. If Dundalk go to the SDCC and ask for the stadium on the 15th August and Rovers contract means they have it on that date there's nothing SDCC, Dundalk or UEFA can do. Obviously don't know the ins and outs of the deal Rovers have with the SDCC but I've heard Rovers basically get a certain number of days where when they want the ground they get it with enough notice but something like that would mean Dundalk would have to either play elsewhere or on another day. So Dundalks choices would be pay a lot more to rent a ground they probably wouldn't fill in Dublin, go to another City or move dates.

And fyi a municipal facility doesn't include Dundalk as Dundalk isn't in the SDCC.

The problem is it's not to accommodate two teams, Rovers are set, it's purely to accommodate Dundalk because they can't be arsed getting their own ground up to scratch.

With risk of digging up old sores but its not as if Rovers were arsed to get their own ground sorted! Step down from the high ground as it doesnt fit. I shall say again that UEFA will set the dates of fixtures, nothing that Rovers can do about that but play when and where they are scheduled as it will be with Dundalk. Why so precious about all this?

It goes without saying that Dundalk should have a stadium to equal Tallaght, Oriel Park is a kip and that's not just the pitch, whilst most everything else about the club is positive.

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Originally Posted by Nesta99

With risk of digging up old sores but its not as if Rovers were arsed to get their own ground sorted! Step down from the high ground as it doesnt fit. I shall say again that UEFA will set the dates of fixtures, nothing that Rovers can do about that but play when and where they are scheduled as it will be with Dundalk. Why so precious about all this?

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Rovers had 11 jerseys and a few balls and still kept trying to get a ground sorted, SDCC didn't just wake up one morning in 2008 and decide to build a stadium snap their fingers and it appear. UEFA can schedule Dundalk to play on whatever date they want SDCC don't have to make Tallaght available on that date for them Dundalk and UEFA have to fit in around any arrangement Rovers and SDCC have not the other way round.

It seems it's the dundalk fans who are failing to grasp this situation. There is no higher precedent for champions League or Europa League. IF it comes to pass that there is a conflict then dundalk will have to seek a movement of 1st leg/2nd leg or else find an alternative to Tallaght. There is no other option. Get used to it.

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Originally Posted by sbgawa

As long as peak 6bare prepared to pay a contribution which allows SDCC invest more in the stadium and charge us less annual rent let's take their money.
Every Euro they bring in is a Euro less Sdcc need from us and allows us spend more on the club, first team and acc academy

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You're deluded if you think there will be a cent of reduction in Rovers' rent as a result of any extra income SDCC receive form renting the stadium out to other teams.

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Originally Posted by geysir

It goes without saying that Dundalk should have a stadium to equal Tallaght, Oriel Park is a kip and that's not just the pitch, whilst most everything else about the club is positive.

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Dundalk desperately need a better ground. But I don't think it's credible to suggest they should have anything like Tallaght any time soon.

SDCC have turned Tallaght into a 10,000 capacity stadium - not just for Shamrock Rovers, but because they see it as a venue to host all sorts of events. There just isn't the demand nor the population in Dundalk to pursue a similar approach there. A 6,000 stadium would be more than enough for Dundalk for the foreseeable future tbh.

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Originally Posted by Asterix

Uefa have no say in what the council do, the Rovers game would only be moved if Dundalk were playing in Dublin on the same night, if Tallaght is unavailable then unles dundalk use the Aviva the Rovers game would't be reversed.

Turner Cross is an option for the third round as well isn't it?

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Well UEFA could schedule the games so Dundalk are playing one week and Rovers the other and leave it to the clubs to sort it out.

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

RathfarnhamHoop and Asterix for starters

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Asterix literally gives four ****s.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well UEFA could schedule the games so Dundalk are playing one week and Rovers the other and leave it to the clubs to sort it out.

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Yeah but you think what would happen is dundalk are told to find a suitable ground, tallaght is unavailable so they ask uefa to change their fixture or use a different ground.

It wouldn't bother me if rovers games were reversed, I know the higher ranked team get priority if playing within a certain distance of another game but they can't be given prority use of a stadium if the owner can refuse to let them play there.

I doubt Uefa would get involved to much as they wouldn't care if dundalk had to play it in Cork.

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Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop

Rovers had 11 jerseys and a few balls and still kept trying to get a ground sorted, SDCC didn't just wake up one morning in 2008 and decide to build a stadium snap their fingers and it appear. UEFA can schedule Dundalk to play on whatever date they want SDCC don't have to make Tallaght available on that date for them Dundalk and UEFA have to fit in around any arrangement Rovers and SDCC have not the other way round.

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Less than a week after they wrote a snotty letter to the FAI about the Minister for Sport 'interfering in football matters' it would be hilarious to see their response to this nonsense :D (having to arrange fixtures around a small local council).

Doubt it will arise but hypothetically, if SDCC denied Dundalk access to the SDCC Stadium and they rented the Aviva, would shams not have to change anyway (if both 'Home games' scheduled for same night) ?

I honestly doubt that UEFA give a fiddlers about either team and will primarily leave it to the clubs to sort out (or God help us, the FAI) but in the event there was no agreement I suspect they would give Dundalk the first choice.

I dunno (or really care) how it'll all pan out, but I suspect that by now Dundalk will have had to nominate their 'home' ground for the third and subsequent rounds. It's not gonna be a case that we enter the third round and then start thinking about where it'll be played. That'll presumably be Tallaght, with the blessing of SDCC. Dundalk getting bumped to Cork, Aviva or Windsor won't be a runner.

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Originally Posted by seand

I dunno (or really care) how it'll all pan out, but I suspect that by now Dundalk will have had to nominate their 'home' ground for the third and subsequent rounds. It's not gonna be a case that we enter the third round and then start thinking about where it'll be played. That'll presumably be Tallaght, with the blessing of SDCC. Dundalk getting bumped to Cork, Aviva or Windsor won't be a runner.

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Dundalk have already giving Tallaght as their "Home Venue" to Uefa for the 3rd round of either Comp (was done straight after draw yesterday)

Uefa will decide who is at home on what week.

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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Dundalk desperately need a better ground. But I don't think it's credible to suggest they should have anything like Tallaght any time soon.

SDCC have turned Tallaght into a 10,000 capacity stadium - not just for Shamrock Rovers, but because they see it as a venue to host all sorts of events. There just isn't the demand nor the population in Dundalk to pursue a similar approach there. A 6,000 stadium would be more than enough for Dundalk for the foreseeable future tbh.

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I see Tallaght has just over 8,000 seat capacity with plans to expand. I thought it had something <7,000.
6,000 seats is probably enough for Dundalk but with scope to add on, should latter stage european competition become a fixture :)

Any predictions for this weeks games?

I am going to be positive. (or foolish)

Dundalk 0 -0 Qarabag FK.
Dundalk's defence held up sound in the two games V Riga, ok they were not that tested but they looked well in control and worked well together, I think they can restrict Qarabag to the same. Get a nil niler today and its all to play for next week which Id imagine would suit Dundalk no end, considering how many times they have scored abroad.

Shamrock Rovers 2-0 Apollon Limassol
Rovers have a team of ballers and also are quite pacy on the break. Id guess Limassol are expecting another easy pickings from a LOI team here, but Rovers have momentum now..........get that crowd going and you never know they might pull of a great result.

Does anyone know if the Rovers game is covered live by a Cypriot channel.

As usual, RTE not bothered their fat salary holes

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Originally Posted by pateen

Does anyone know if the Rovers game is covered live by a Cypriot channel.

As usual, RTE not bothered their fat salary holes

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How come RTE showed the previous round Dundalk game but not this one? Its on Eirsport though right?

Dundalk have looked a lot tighter at the back since Boyle re-joined and his partnership with Hoare in europe is definitely the strongest IMO, flanked by Gannon and I`d also retain Massey. I noticed Boyle also has the back line playing a little higher up too, hopefully this continues tonight, I'd be delighted with a 0-0 or anything nil ! Qarabag are still strong favs to advance, but they are out of season, so who knows, we will have a chance thats for sure.

I think Rovers can get a win at home, I wouldnt think by 2 though, if they an grind out a 1-0 win they'll also be delighted.

The SDCC aren't stupid either IF both teams end up with a game on the same night and Dundalk decide to use the Aviva then the rovers home game would be changed anyway as UEFA don't allow two games in the same city on the same night.
This would cost the SDCC a nights rent from Dundalk and Rovers wouldn't be playing in the stadium that night.
You'd have to imagine that the SDCC will want both clubs playing the games in Tallaght considering the expense they have gone to on upgrades which likely means Rovers will be asked to play away when Dundalk play at home in Tallaght I would guess.
All hypothetical stuff at the moment in any case

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Originally Posted by Couch Potato

The SDCC aren't stupid either IF both teams end up with a game on the same night and Dundalk decide to use the Aviva then the rovers home game would be changed anyway as UEFA don't allow two games in the same city on the same night.
This would cost the SDCC a nights rent from Dundalk and Rovers wouldn't be playing in the stadium that night.
You'd have to imagine that the SDCC will want both clubs playing the games in Tallaght considering the expense they have gone to on upgrades which likely means Rovers will be asked to play away when Dundalk play at home in Tallaght I would guess.
All hypothetical stuff at the moment in any case

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As was stated earlier Dundalk have already nominated SDCC Stadium as their home ground, this would only be done with the agreement of SDCC. There is no sensible reason why they (SDCC) would deny Dundalk access now.
If both are drawn “at home” it will be left to the clubs to agree or UEFA guidelines will be applied.

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Originally Posted by pateen

Does anyone know if the Rovers game is covered live by a Cypriot channel.

As usual, RTE not bothered their fat salary holes

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why is eir not showing this? very surprised by this!

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

why is eir not showing this? very surprised by this!

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Think they piggybacked the Norweigan TV company last time, so no irish tv company arsed with showing it off their own bat. Should make for a bumper gate (finger crossed).

https://www.cyta.com.cy/tv-live-sports-events/en

Listed on Cytavision Sport 2HD in Cyprus - disapointed that no one has picked it up.

Just on Northern Irelands interest in European football,one Linfield fan travelled to the Faroe islands for last night's game, I know its not easy to get to but one is a bit pathetic....

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Originally Posted by joey B

Just on Northern Irelands interest in European football,one Linfield fan travelled to the Faroe islands for last night's game, I know its not easy to get to but one is a bit pathetic....

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I don’t know which is worse. That only one fan went or the fact that one fan appears to have no mates to go with them.

In their defence, it must be the fifth or sixth time they've been there this decade. Awkward spot to get to, and only a well after a trip to Norway too.

Two interesting games this week. Both LoI sides should be odds against, but neither should be a foregone conclusion. Up against two sides who are group stage regulars lately, but not very good group stage regulars, and Rovers/Dundalk have both been there themselves.

These are games the league needs to start winning if we're to have "very good nights" in Europe.

Dundalk need a big improvement on the Riga performance over the two legs. It's doable, but difficult. Rovers could claim to have already knocked out a similar strength side and would be slightly the more likely to progress for me.

I'll go a narrow defeat for Dundalk and a draw for Rovers

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Originally Posted by ger121

I don’t know which is worse. That only one fan went or the fact that one fan appears to have no mates to go with them.

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Proud to say I have not missed a single European game home or away since I started following the Harps.

It's eir sport isn't it?

0-0 or 0-1 tonight

1-1 tomorrow.

Dundalk stream please

skorlive.com anyway. Probably a better one out there too.

That's as bad as anything we've seen over the last 20 years.

Awful start for Dundalk. Really sloppy stuff.

Suddenly need to do twice what they couldn't manage at all against Riga.

Horrible goal to give away.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Awful start for Dundalk. Really sloppy stuff.

Suddenly need to do twice what they couldn't manage at all against Riga.

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Yeah, what the hell was Hoare thinking ? Thought Rogers could have done better too.

Long way back from here.

Rogers is the one I'd be looking to most, but there was three of them basically on the line and it found a way through them all.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

Dundalk stream please

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http://www.streamsfinder.com/soccer/...m?l=1414105013

First time crosses poor again. Not beating the first man. SHould have worked on that from the last two games.

Doing well generally, that goal is a sickener. Need to make much better use of the set-pieces too

Being outclassed by a better team.
Will do well to pull a goal back.