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Wow! What a finish. Ice cool penalty from Samaras, although the keeper did get close.
And the goal made me miss my bus home.
Boooooooooo!
I'm still stunned by Suarez. I don't know if I can handle another round of "I'm not defending him but" when he gets 20 matches this time.
And that's why bbc showed Greece!
Suarez hasn't a leg to stand on. Did anyone see the BBC footage of the interview with Chiellini? He was pretty frank in his condemnation of Suarez but it's harsh to blame the ref and FIFA - so far at least. The refs can't be expected to see that. And the first 5 times I saw it on TV I thought it was a stupid attempt at a head butt. But the video - not to mention forensic - evidence is totally conclusive. I doubt we'll see Suarez again for a while. Still, he did his job:)
Suarez statement saying that he did nothing wrong makes it even worse. I know it wont happen but Id love to see him thrown out of football, hes a horrible character
Anyway, I'll miss Prandelli. I loved his fascination with changing formations and I loved his Euro 2012 team
And what about that Japanese chick that the cameras focused on on 64 minutes? OMG. Only the Brazil girl from 1982 beats that. Remember, blonde crying when they lost to Italy?
Can only think that his denial is an act of brinksmanship, seeing if FIFA are willing to punish him for it or just let it go. Desperate men sometimes take bizarre decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...624-WA0010.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Just a mere flesh wound...
The real one...
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-...ruIcAAGfNn.jpg
In fairness, the real photo evidence looks fairly compelling.
Anyway, was there any controversy over the Greece penalty? Thescore.ie is showing a clip that makes it look controversial but I think that if it started two seconds earlier it'd show the Ivorian just clipping him - rather than Samaras making the contact himself - so it looks to me to be a sure penno. The Ivorian stuck his leg just where Samaras was putting his.
Chiellini was certainly very forthright. It was rather politicised and unlike any platitude-laden interview you'd get on Sky Sports. Critical of FIFA, I enjoyed it. I don't think Lineker had expected it.
I can't see FIFA letting Suarez the "sneak" off the hook though in the face of such indisputable evidence.
http://a.pomf.se/phdzcy.gif
There is something seriously wrong with this man. The punishment has to be very severe. Eric Cantona severe.
It was definitely a penalty. Samaras was swinging his leg to kick the ball but the Ivorian's leg got in the way and caused a trip. I don't even think there was a hint of a dive about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I think its worse than Cantona at this point, Cantona was in the heat of the moment .... 3 times is a continuing pattern where he doesnt care about the consequencesQuote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Course, the Suarez nibble is detracting from Marchisio's red card, which really didn't help Italy, especially when they were chasing an equaliser. Right in front of the ref; not the absolute worst of challenges, but certainly looked like he stuck his boot into an Uruguayan knee and twisted it in too. Not sure what he was thinking.
No controversy over that red card either, in my opinion.
And it wasn't even as if it was prompted by some act of antagonism. Just like the Ivanovic bite, the only thing the defender did wrong was to actually win a fair contest. In fact, did the ball even come as far as Chiellini?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
It was pure frustration-induced rage. Fascinating stuff. No harm either as long as FIFA takes strong action.
A bit of harm. He should have been sent off, which presumably would have altered the entire game, though I suppose the officials were not in the best positions to see his (incredibly) violent conduct.
Was just reading this article: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc....4e5tA7tT.dpuf
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FIFA's disciplinary code sets a maximum ban of 24 matches or two years, but the longest ban in World Cup history was eight games for Italy's Mauro Tassotti for breaking Spain's Luis Enrique's nose in 1994 with an elbow. Zinedine Zidane was given a three-match ban for headbutting Marco Materazzi in the 2006 final.
No controversy at all, that clip is edited to leave out the angle that clearly shows the defender step across Samaras as he swings his leg to shoot and it clearly makes him fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I don't think it's an issue of not caring, I just don't think he can control it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
There's an article here where a psychologist speculates that Suarez would bite again within five years of the Ivanovic incident. Turns out his range was four years too wide.
Will the inevitable ban only cover international matches?
I'm gonna be all over this Costa Rica team. I despise Greece with all my energy.
Exactly would need two referees to ref an Italian game, ref prob thought "feck not Chiellini on the ground again"Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
This is not the type of thing anyone wants to see in modern football. Whilst we all watch it over and over again, of course... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Definitely not a pen in my book, so means it probably was?
:(
And the latest 'defence', is that was an existing 'love-bite' or something...
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Suarez incident being investigated.
That's explicitly different to the Premiership, isn't it? Would like to see more of that used, for dives in particular.Quote:
FIFA’s disciplinary code allows action to be taken retrospectively via video evidence even if the incident has been seen by the referee.
Would probably overwhelm the system.
Why? They deserved to win last night with yet another African team sauntering around until they needed a goal and then they upped their game only to lose in the last minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Why is a relatively harmless bite far worse than someone going over the top of the ball trying to do serious injury to someone? Keane's tackle on Haaland or the bite by way of example? Which is worse? I don't quite understand the hysteria about this. It's not eye gouging or anything like that. Stutts often does it in his love making (so his missus tells me). I reckon FIFA will try and dodge the bullet on this one.
Not sorry to see Italy go. England made them look better than they were. Pirlo will be missed but not the rest of the side or its tactics.
They're both bad things that deserve hefty punishment. I think the bite is worse personally - it strikes me as just an extra level of moronically violent, to sink your teeth into another person - and the "hysteria" is probably more to do with the fact that Suarez, aside from the racism, has done this three times in his career. It's amazing that he not only doesn't learn, but persists with the narrative that people/the media are out to get him.
I would agree on Greece. They work hard and have a system that makes things very difficult for most teams, which I find admirable. They've achieved great things with he resources at their disposal - much like Costa Rica in fact.
Very good work by Greece, it was an impressive performance under pressure, I suppose they had to be more adventurous but they could manage an intelligent attractive game plan and do it in style.
I suppose we can only dream of a performance like that. Sadly, IC were very disappointing and didn't deserve to progress.
It was some sight to see Karagounis wobble his way on the brink of collapse to take a corner late on and still manage a quality delivery, I don't think he moved a cm after that.
It might result in a heavier workload initially, but I'm sure the resources are there and you'd eventually hope it would have the overall effect of reducing incidents of suspected simulation anyway. Diving causes enough chaos and headache for the authorities to justify it surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
It'll be hard for them to ignore, but I think the hysteria might be due to the taboo nature of biting in particular. Biting living flesh is possibly viewed as a child-like or anamalistic regression to some earlier developmental or evolutionary stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Or possibly the act of a total toe rag with self control issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Deserved or not I can still hate them. Admirable performance or not. I can still hate them. Well executed strategy or tactics or not. I can still hate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
The hysteria as is true for most things these days is as disgusting as the act.Quote:
Why is a relatively harmless bite far worse than someone going over the top of the ball trying to do serious injury to someone? Keane's tackle on Haaland or the bite by way of example? Which is worse? I don't quite understand the hysteria about this. It's not eye gouging or anything like that. Stutts often does it in his love making (so his missus tells me). I reckon FIFA will try and dodge the bullet on this one.
I found myself agreeing with Dunphy here. If not for his reasoning but for his statement of everyone needs to put this in perspective.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/world...able-response/
Feckin' Greeks etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
They invented etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Or he's just a spanner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Robbie Savage will be all too familiar with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Part of the Suarez offence was the pathetic effort to "simulate" some sort of aggressive action by Chiellini. That in its own right should warrant a 3 game ban. Some of the calls for punishment are OTT but something like a 6 game ban, or a longer ban with part of it suspended, would seem fair. It was a violent cowardly act with a particularly extreme case of attempted deception thrown in.
The sad thing is that the bubble he operates in will protect him from blame and will lead him to think he's the victim of a witch hunt.
He's had seven and ten game bans already. They shouldn't go the other direction.