Shay on motd 3 on the beeb website, general thoughts on euros. If u ask me, sounds like he'll be around for another campaign
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17511306
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Shay on motd 3 on the beeb website, general thoughts on euros. If u ask me, sounds like he'll be around for another campaign
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17511306
Saw him on MotD2 there too last night. They did a nice piece highlighting the fact he's now among the top 10 most capped GKs in international football history. I get the impression he'll stick around for one more round as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
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Originally Posted by Sullivinho
ha ha presenter is hardly sitting on the fence is he
Does seem like Shay could stick around for the World Cup qualifiers. The fact that he penned a 5 years contract with Villa last summer demonstrates the longevity he intends to apply to his career.
To be honest I get the impression from that piece, he is going to call it a day after the Euros. Because the fact he has to "consider" it, means retirement is very much in his plans.
If you were going to remain playing for Ireland, you wouldn't be as cagey in your response. He's 36 in a few weeks. I think the Euros will be his swansong. Incidentally, I think Duff will bow out as well after the summer.
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Originally Posted by Fixer82
Looks like he might be on 'our' side of the fence up there if you know what I mean.
FT, I think you have a point. I think the main ones that will consider their position are Shay, Dunne, Duff and Keane. I think there is a decent chance all four will stay and they may be swayed by what the others do. My greatest concern would be around Dunne. He has had a few injuries in recent years and he also is the player we could least afford to do without. Keane, probably will stay but travel will be a factor for him. Duff simply loves playing for Ireland but if the lads that he grew up playing for Ireland call it a day he may also do the same.
Murray is a NI fan, but I'm sure that doesn't mean he'd begrudge any success of ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by elroy
I think that's a Given :oQuote:
Originally Posted by elroy
Seriously though, I'd say he'll definitely be around for the next campaign. He's really looking after himself and it's obvious he wants to play as many games for us as possible. Unfortunately he doesn't have many medals to show for his career so at least it would be nice to say 'I was the most capped this or the most capped that'. Plus, and most importantly, he's still good enough.
I can't envisage Given wanting to retire. I'd say he'll keep himself available until he's deemed dispensable by the management. Didn't Roy Keane once criticise his impressive tally of caps as if such commitment and dedication were negative traits? If he was planning on retiring, why wouldn't he just say? It's not as if anyone would begrudge such a decision given the service he's offered us over the past decade and a half.
His Euro2012 winner's medal should more than make up for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
This suggests he might fancy another tilt at the World Cup...
http://www.rte.ie/sport/news/2012/03...pain-of-paris/
Is it just me or what but I can see him having another 5 yrs+ in him. It would only be a dip in form or someone coming through and looking a better option that would change that but retirement for Given just seems way down the line in my eyes....
There is no direct replacement as far as I can see. Kieran Westwood needs to be getting first team football to be considered as replacement, he's definitely good enough, but not getting first team football hurts his chances of becoming Ireland number 1 in the future.
As for Shay, I'd reckon he has another 4 or 5 years in him easily at the top level.
His contract with Villa expires when he's 40, so he could earn, what another....50 caps or so. That'd be some record to have, in fairness. I'd firmly believe he's capable of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I've been worried about shay the last year or so,having watched another performance today I definitley feel he is on a gradual slow slope downhill.he made some great reflex saves today becaude his brain is the same I.e. his positional sense is still very good and balls coming straight at him should always be saved as they were.but his body or those reactionary saves that used to make you sit up and say wow now seem to be a thing of the past.
What the difference between a reflex save and a reactionary save?
means the same thing to me. i defo amn't as confident in shay as i used to be. a few years ago youd nearly expect him to save 1 on 1's . he performed some heroics in the irish shirtQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I expect he is saving himself for the Summer, no point getting himself injured before then they are pretty sure to stay up.
A reflex save is one where he isnt in control and its just body movements, normal reflex movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
A reactionary save is where he sees the danger or reacts in time to get across and make the save.
The second one being where shay used to make some great double saves, or get across and a palm to a shot in serious quick time when you wouldn't expect him to get near it. The best definition of reactionary would be schmeichel getting down and lifting that ball over the crossbar for UTD all those years ago.
The most dangerous place for a goalkeeper who is losing a bit of 'reactionary', is the kitchen.
A goalkeeper in his prime can sense that a jar/beer bottle is going to fall to the floor and has his hand stretched out waiting to catch it.
When the reactions slow down, the hand movement is a little late and as the jar fall to the floor, the instinct is to put the foot out.
Schmeichel would of course be wearing standard kitchen attire for a Dane, clogs, and would be protected from sore consequences.
Instinct being the key word there.
ha ha his made me laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
reminds me of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV2om9YBADI
In what sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
That's gas, but I don't get how you got to there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
A reflex save is instict, without thought, something almost innate, at least in terms of goalkeeping anyway :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Didn't Spain's Canizares miss the World Cup because an aftershave bottle fell from his cabinet onto his foot, severing a tendon? He was in his prime. Maybe he regrets sticking out a foot to stop it hitting the floor. Don't know if that'd be reflexive or reactionary though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Shay definitely isn't the inspirational force of old, but he's still a perfectly decent international keeper and good enough for us to have faith in. Westwood's good too but Mignolet (?) has been one of the EPL's better keepers this season so he was unlucky not to stay fit while in possession of the shirt.
Was it Canizares (sp?) who missed the world cup finlas for Spain as a result of dropping a bottle of aftershave on his big toe! Im sure ive checked this before just cant recall the answer.
Edit: Feck, Stapo just to quick for me there.....
That was an instinctive reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
But that was in the bathroom not the kitchen, completely different scenario.
The real kitchen test for a goalkeeper is to sense something is falling behind one's back, and still being able to catch the object without turning around.
There is definitely something of a likeness to Stapo in Stutts. :)
I deny any connection. I've even been known to smile on occasion.
I'll admit to decorating the wall of a flat I lived in with a huge poster of Frank in full elegant poise on the pitch. He was a man's man.
Thanks. Around 1995 I remember only having heard about him and on coming back from the pub one Wednesday night Sunderland were on UTV's League Cup highlights programme and Shay was in nets. I could tell right then he was the real deal.
That was a monday night... That show was on Mondays.
Jeez, you're pedantic!
Acc to soccerbase he played 17 games for Sunderland in 1996, all in the league, none in either of the cups. It must have been a league game.
Amazing save from Shay Given to keep Villa in the points. Wow.
Heard about the save but didn't see it.
Ball was chipped across from the left to the back post where Odemwingie leathered a volley full bore from about 5 yards out... Given just spread himself across and kept it out with his feet. Great save. You'll see it later, that's for sure.
Managed to find it after much searching.
Unusual save with most of his body over the line.
http://www.goalsarena.org/video/engl...-villa_en.html
He did brilliantly to get the ball to safety so emphatically as well as just saving it.