2023 UEFA Under-21 Championship

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Originally Posted by elatedscum

To the avid LOI fans, where would you rank

Darragh Burns
Liam Kerrigan
Jack Moylan
Promise Omochere
Brandon Kavanagh

I’ve only seen a handful of games but from what I’ve seen all 5 have impressed to varying degrees. Kinda surprised they’ve only looked at 2 at any point during the campaign

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Kerrigan has impressed in a poor UCD team so far this season, though has been a bit quieter in the second round of games as I think teams are paying more attention to him. He's found space harder to come by lately for example; the first round of games he was regularly causing proper problems running straight at defenders.

He's linked with a move to England at the moment, but it's hard to really place that in any meaningful context - there's obviously a big difference between signing for a 23s team and going straight into a first-team (which he'll hardly do, given he's coming from part-time football), and that's before you consider what division in England he might go to (Lincoln were mentioned, but not sure if that was Collie Whelan or Kerrigan or both)

be interesting to see where kerrigan would land alright. hes a good talent id hate to see him sign with a 23s team tbh. id be hoping a l1 side would have a bit of faith in him and give him a place in the first team squad either that or a move to derry perhaps?

One minor point about the squad - if Conor Noss does play in any of the three upcoming games, he'll be tied to us. He turned 21 in January, and an appearance in any competitive game at 21, or older, ties you to that association.
Coventry and Smallbone, both 22, are already tied to us, having appeared in qualifiers since their 21st birthdays

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

One minor point about the squad - if Conor Noss does play in any of the three upcoming games, he'll be tied to us. He turned 21 in January, and an appearance in any competitive game at 21, or older, ties you to that association.
Coventry and Smallbone, both 22, are already tied to us, having appeared in qualifiers since their 21st birthdays

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I know that rule is about as clear as mud but I don't think that's the case from my understanding.

Doesn't that only apply if the player doesn't have citizenship at the time of playing for the country, assuming it's not an "A" international? I don't think U21s tie them unless they don't already have the nationality, which Noss, Coventry and Smallbone do.

From the FIFA rules

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a) the player:i) was fielded in a match in an official competition at any level(with the exception of “A” international level) in any kind offootball for his current association;
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ii) at the time of being fielded for his first match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association,he already held the nationality of the association which he wishes to represent.

b) the player: i) was fielded in a match in an official competition at any level(with the exception of “A” international level) in any kind of football for his current association;
ii) at the time of being fielded for his first match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he did not hold the nationality of the association which he wishes to represent;
iii) at the time of being fielded for his last match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he had not turned 21 years old; and
iv) meets any of the requirements provided in article 6 or article 7

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The problem arises for us because these English born granny rule lads would need to have their Irish passport sorted before they turned 21, due to our Foreign Birth Register. This means they'd be ineligble for us as soon as they kick a ball at any level for another country, once turning 21, but doesn't work in reverse for cases like Noss. If my interpretation is correct, Noss won't be tied until he plays 1 senior competitive game because he already has German nationality.

Oisin McEntee has been released by Newcastle and has joined Walsall (16th in league 2 last season).

https://www.saddlers.co.uk/news/2022...castle-united/

Peanut has the eligibility rules correct. None of Smallbone, Coventry or Noss are tied to us, nor will they be if they play in this round of Under 21 games.

This is because they held the citizenship of their country of birth before ever playing for Ireland.

If any of them took a competitive senior cap they'd be tied to us though, as they are now all 21 or older. So if any of the three were promoted to the seniors this June and were subsequently capped, that would confirm them for Ireland.

That's unlikely, the U21s final qualifier against Italy is the same night as the second game against Ukraine

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

That's unlikely, the U21s final qualifier against Italy is the same night at the second game against Ukraine

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Yes, it probably won't happen. But if we had a couple of midfield injuries in the earlier games it's not beyond possibility that Coventry might get a call up at some stage this month off the back of his performances for MK Dons. Especially with Hodge playing well and available to step in for the 21s.

There aren't too many other decent and fit central midfield options out there, what kind of condition would someone like Jack Taylor be in at that point, about a month after the end of his club season? Similar story for Jake Doyle-Hayes, who has been no move than average in a poor Hibs team.

There's also the possiblity that second place is beyond us after this weekend rendering the Italy game a dead rubber. If so could see one or two maybe stay with the seniors.

Think we need two wins and Sweden to drop points against Italy for us to get the playoff, but a win and draw would do as long as Sweden then lose to Italy. Could be wrong though.

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Originally Posted by JR89

There's also the possiblity that second place is beyond us after this weekend rendering the Italy game a dead rubber. If so could see one or two maybe stay with the seniors.

Think we need two wins and Sweden to drop points against Italy for us to get the playoff, but a win and draw would do as long as Sweden then lose to Italy. Could be wrong though.

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If we beat Bosnia & Montenegro who are already eliminated and Sweden beat Luxembourg then it means Sweden will have to beat Italy otherwise we’ll have secured 2nd.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

One minor point about the squad - if Conor Noss does play in any of the three upcoming games, he'll be tied to us. He turned 21 in January, and an appearance in any competitive game at 21, or older, ties you to that association.
Coventry and Smallbone, both 22, are already tied to us, having appeared in qualifiers since their 21st birthdays

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There is that, but if Ireland is his first country to play for, there are more regulations which would allow him to declare for another country that he's eligible for.
He can switch if
he was fielded in no more than three matches at “A” international
level in any kind of football for his current association, whether
in an official competition or non-official competition:
v) at least three years have passed since being fielded for his last
match at “A” international level in any kind of football for his
current association, whether in an official competition or non-
official competition; and
vi) has never participated in any kind of football at “A”
international level in the final tour nament of the FIFA World
Cup or a final tournament of a confederation competition.

Looking like Cashin won't be available in time for our two games this weekend.

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Originally Posted by JR89

Looking like Cashin won't be available in time for our two games this weekend.

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What ever happened to ~ ~ Stroke Politicians ? ?

Off topic but i cant believe how old Jim Crawford is looking. Maybe its just that photo but I still think of him as a Bohs youngster. Time is our greatest enemy.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

Off topic but i cant believe how old Jim Crawford is looking. Maybe its just that photo but I still think of him as a Bohs youngster. Time is our greatest enemy.

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Time and the British!

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

Time and the British!

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And Now, The Globalists.

Sweden beat Luxembourg 3-0 to top the group ahead of Italy on goal difference.
They're only one game left, against Italy, who also have to play Luxembourg and ourselves.
https://www.uefa.com/under21/match/2...urg-vs-sweden/

Eiran Cashin's paperwork has been completed, so he's available for selection tonight and Monday

Disappointed Hodge not on the bench

No Cashin on the bench either and back to 4-2-3-1