2008 F.A.I. Cup final thread.

Looking back on the game again I can see how Buttimer gave the penalty and non penalty decisions , he also , to a fault , tried to let the game flow and so allowed a lot of ankle crunching tackles and played advantage or ignored them. In fairness to both teams no players started rolling around in agony when they were hit.
I think both clubs should be proud of their respective players and their respective fans, despite the copious neat vodka being consumed around the ground there were no notable incidents of physical aggression between sets of supporters, despite the laughable FAI "segregation"
Anyone notice the bizarre accoustics in the RDS? In the middle of the Grandstand you could hear only the Derry fans , step 10 yards to your left and you could only hear the Bohs fans. Listen to the TV coverage and you can only hear Derry fans, look at the Youtube coverage of the penalties and theres little or no cheering when Derry score and the opposite when Murphy saves etc.

Is this the first ever cup final in europe that there was no toss of a coin to decide which end the penalties were taken?

As for the two penalty decisions, "ball to hand is not an infringement" according to the FIFA website in the rules of the game section.

"an illegal tackle in the box" is a penalty according to the same website, so that is why Derry fans were p1ssed off.

No one is accusing Bohs of cheating, it's just that Buttimer made some wrong calls including some which went against Bohs as well.

Looks like Bohs fans just can't admit that they got the rub of the green in the most important calls.

From a neutral point of view, it was a great game. Derry shaded it I felt, but i wouldn't say they were robbed, and I thought that there should have been NO penalties in the game. The one given was a shocker of a decision, as the handball was absolutely and obviously unintentional.

Can't even beleive Buttimer got to even ref the final this is the same tool who made a joke of the league on the opening day of the season at the pats v Sligo rovers game , his refereeing skills defo are not up to cup final standard and it showed badly again on sunday.

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Is this the first ever cup final in europe that there was no toss of a coin to decide which end the penalties were taken?

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Because tossing a coin to decide which end is to be used would be against the Procedures stated in the Laws of the Game:

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Kicks from the Penalty Mark
• The referee chooses the goal at which the kicks will be taken
• The referee tosses a coin and the team whose captain wins the toss

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As far as I remember - it was an amendment to Law which was proposed - but not voted in by the International FA Board (the body which lays down the Laws)

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Is this the first ever cup final in europe that there was no toss of a coin to decide which end the penalties were taken?

As for the two penalty decisions, "ball to hand is not an infringement" according to the FIFA website in the rules of the game section.

"an illegal tackle in the box" is a penalty according to the same website, so that is why Derry fans were p1ssed off.

No one is accusing Bohs of cheating, it's just that Buttimer made some wrong calls including some which went against Bohs as well.

Looks like Bohs fans just can't admit that they got the rub of the green in the most important calls.

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first of all there was a toss to decide where the pens were taken or maybe 1st pen taker

second of all that was not ball to hand, if the ball had been crossed in and hit him directly it would have been, morrow headed the ball into the ground then almost caught it enabling him to clear it, gained an advantage therefore not ball to hand

Brought my nephews to the match.Great game and atmosphere but Derry were robbed.

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Originally Posted by Leejo

Bullsh!t!:rolleyes:

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A considered and well argued response there Leejo....:rolleyes:

Bullsh!t how ? As in the Bohs fans I saw sitting down as far as the eye could see were really just midgets standing up, and the City fans were really just tall people sitting down ? Or bullsh!t as you don't like to hear something like this, regardless of the fact it's true.... ? :confused:

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A considered and well argued response there Leejo....:rolleyes:

Bullsh!t how ? As in the Bohs fans I saw sitting down as far as the eye could see were really just midgets standing up, and the City fans were really just tall people sitting down ? Or bullsh!t as you don't like to hear something like this, regardless of the fact it's true.... ? :confused:

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well it is complete crap to be fair, i was in the grandstand, didnt see 1 person sitting down... suprised ye derry fans are in any position to comment on what the bohs fans were doing didnt think you would be able to see them over that chip on your shoulder

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A considered and well argued response there Leejo....:rolleyes:

Bullsh!t how ? As in the Bohs fans I saw sitting down as far as the eye could see were really just midgets standing up, and the City fans were really just tall people sitting down ? Or bullsh!t as you don't like to hear something like this, regardless of the fact it's true.... ? :confused:

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I gave the response your posts deserved, because - it is a blatant lie.

Do you honestly thinks every single Bohs fan was sitting down while ever single Derry fan was standing up for the 90 minutes. Or did you happen to skip over the last 3 blocks of the grandstand where the NBB/BSC/random singers were? Talk about being bitter! :rolleyes:

Apart from a pocket of fans in the Anglesea stand, behind the goal and possibly down the far end of the grandstand as well (I couldn't see that far as i was down the other end in the singing section - standing ironically) Derry fans were sitting.

No mention of the fact that when your side were collecting their medals they came around and appealed our fans because lo and behold the 100,000 Derry fans had all left. That's not to take away from the Derry fans though, the drum banging, GAA jerseys and Santa suits really showed you for the bell-ends you are.

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Anyone notice the bizarre accoustics in the RDS? In the middle of the Grandstand you could hear only the Derry fans , step 10 yards to your left and you could only hear the Bohs fans. Listen to the TV coverage and you can only hear Derry fans, look at the Youtube coverage of the penalties and theres little or no cheering when Derry score and the opposite when Murphy saves etc.

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They obviously started singing properly for the first time during the pens.

Thankyou for confirming that even in the middle of the Grandstand that you could only hear Derry.


I just watched the pens from a video a Bohs fan made.

I know most keepers come of their line but waaaaaooooooooo go to 2.12 in this and that is amazing how Murphy got away with that!

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=BNz3nZ...eature=related

http://www.extratime.ie/media/extrat...FAI-Ford-3.jpg

bell-ends Leejo? surely not!

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

They obviously started singing properly for the first time during the pens.

Thankyou for confirming that even in the middle of the Grandstand that you could only hear Derry.


I just watched the pens from a video a Bohs fan made.

I know most keepers come of their line but waaaaaooooooooo go to 2.12 in this and that is amazing how Murphy got away with that!

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=BNz3nZ...eature=related

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And thank you for confirming Derry fans are bitter and very, very, very, bad losers.

Goalkeeper in a steps off his line shocker! fookin hell he's not the first and certainly won't be the last to get away with it. Get over yourself, it happens all the time.

Yes there were a while lot of Derry fans dressed in Santa suits. One of the reasons were it was a charity fundraiser for "Children in crossfire"and "Mc Millan cancer".

We broke the world record last dec when getting over 13,000 dressed up in the city centre easily beating the Las Vegas and Liverpools attempts.

I still wouldn't wear it at a cup final though. :)

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Originally Posted by Leejo

And thank you for confirming Derry fans are bitter and very, very, very, bad losers.

Goalkeeper in a steps off his line shocker! fookin hell he's not the first and certainly won't be the last to get away with it. Get over yourself, it happens all the time.

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Here is a site that might interest Bohs.

http://www.lisney.com/

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

I just watched the pens from a video a Bohs fan made.

I know most keepers come of their line but waaaaaooooooooo go to 2.12 in this and that is amazing how Murphy got away with that!

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=BNz3nZ...eature=related

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Thats something that happens 9 times out of ten when penalties are taken in every league in the world. How many times do refs call the goalies on it, very very few.

You really are getting desperate now looking for reasons to have a go at ref,bohs etc.

Ref made some dodgy calls for both sides, deal with it for f**ks sake. In the end it came down to penalties. Both sides got 5 each. Not the refs fault you missed twice.

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

We broke the world record last dec when getting over 13,000 dressed up in the city centre easily beating the Las Vegas and Liverpools attempts.

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Well aren't you just great. Now explain to me what that has to do with the cup final?

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Here is a site that might interest Bohs.

http://www.lisney.com/

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Same with this, what exactly has it got to do with the cup final? Just shows you up for being what you are, Bitter.

Know when you're wrong sunshine and take a lesson from Niall McGinn, at least he has a touch of class about him congratulating Bohs 3 times in his interview and not once complained. You and your bitter little friends could learn a lesson or 2 from him.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A considered and well argued response there Leejo....:rolleyes:

Bullsh!t how ? As in the Bohs fans I saw sitting down as far as the eye could see were really just midgets standing up, and the City fans were really just tall people sitting down ? Or bullsh!t as you don't like to hear something like this, regardless of the fact it's true.... ? :confused:

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The cops came up the steps to try to make us move out of the aisle and failed. Then the stewards tried, and failed. Everyone at our end of the grandstand was standing.

And as for singing Candystripe, you bitter little minnow, we sang throughout the game and for the record I couldn't hear a peep out of you apart from after your goals.

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

The cops came up the steps to try to make us move out of the aisle and failed. Then the stewards tried, and failed. Everyone at our end of the grandstand was standing.

And as for singing Candystripe, you bitter little minnow, we sang throughout the game and for the record I couldn't hear a peep out of you apart from after your goals.

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So, if we are "minnows" does that mean every club in Ireland are also minnows except the mighty Bohs?

There is singing like Bohs fans http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4K8wr9JnbDs

and then there is singing like Derry fans http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=J9V3u5yaI_8

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=yoyQ6i...eature=related

Yada yada yada. It was a great game played in a great atmosphere and both sets of fans were, for the most part, gracious in both defeat and victory. End of.